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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Please recommend a good watch winder.

Hmm whnay, not sure if you know this but watches winders are a bit of a rort, a solution to an invented problem.

Unless, of course, the watch in question is a perpetual calendar. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

However, the real measure of the value of a watch is how you feel after you've owned it for a while. Does it have the qualities that make it a keeper or does it lose its appeal once the newness wears off.  

This. Absolutely. 100%.

I've said before that watches are an emotional purchase, despite our (often vain) attempts at rationalising them.

You have to find a keeper, the same way you look for a life partner. I must admit I do somewhat judge people who constantly are flipping watches. You guys know the sort... I guess it's the same as meeting someone who you find out is six times divorced! devil.gif

BTW Dino944, sure you're not going to reconsider not being reverso ebuddies with me? I may or may not have one on the way... icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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I will have to be a reverso buddy sooner or later icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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I may or may not have one on the way

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I am guilty of paying MSRP for one of my watches. It was just impossible to find this particular model at that time and I really wanted it. Am I am snob? No, I just wanted to have it - I know paying full price goes against SF rules:satisfied:

With regards to in-house vesus ETA, I couldn't care less. Give me a well machined case and a perfect dial and I'm a very happy customer. At the end of the day, how much hand finishing (e.g Pealage) do you really think goes into your watches?

Simple economics: Supply versus demand (+ some branding).
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I guess it's like a house, a car or anything else: if you buy something as an investment vehicle, a lower price or depreciation are upsetting.  But if you love it and want to keep it, it's worth what you were willing to pay.

 

 

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I am guilty of paying MSRP for one of my watches. It was just impossible to find this particular model at that time and I really wanted it. Am I am snob? No, I just wanted to have it - I know paying full price goes against SF rules:satisfied:

With regards to in-house vesus ETA, I couldn't care less. Give me a well machined case and a perfect dial and I'm a very happy customer. At the end of the day, how much hand finishing (e.g Pealage) do you really think goes into your watches?

Simple economics: Supply versus demand (+ some branding).


I don't think paying MSRP is against SF rules, nor is it snobbish. Everyone makes the decision on their own.

 

In house versus ETA goes beyond finishing for me. However, if you wish to trivialize the way others prioritize the details of their watch purchases because it differs from yours, so be it.

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Thatguy sounds like a Tag Heuer PR guy's wet dream
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Speaking of colours, this was new at SIHH 2013

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Also stumbled across an auction from a little over a year ago, with both blue, red and brown reversoes from the early 30's. Some fetched 4-5 times the estimate. Picks here .
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Thatguy sounds like a Tag Heuer PR guy's wet dream


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LOL... sure I am.

You guys seem like any "manufactures" wet dream.

BRB Richemont owns most of the brands you get all excited about.

Oh, my. Judging a book by its cover?

Haters gonna hate. Sorry, I don't do herd mentality
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Now you sound like a Seagull PR guy's wet dream

Keep digging!
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Speaking of colours, this was new at SIHH 2013

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Also stumbled across an auction from a little over a year ago, with both blue, red and brown reversoes from the early 30's. Some fetched 4-5 times the estimate. Picks here .

That blue duo face is nice, but would have been nicer if the white face was... Well, nicer. It's sad and a little telling to see all the publicity photos showing the blue face but not the white one.

It would have been a home run if they had channeled one of the old reversos with the circle on the dial and the central seconds hand, the seconds centrale, for the white face.

I've heard some people say that it would have been great if JLC had released the new blue as another TTR 1931 edition, but I'm with Jerome Lambert on this choice - its not a winning formula to release multiple limited editions of the same model with minor superficial changes... A very refreshing pov from a ceo in these times (cough, AP, cough)...
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I will have to be a reverso buddy sooner or later icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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BTW Dino944, sure you're not going to reconsider not being reverso ebuddies with me? I may or may not have one on the way... icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

However, the real measure of the value of a watch is how you feel after you've owned it for a while. Does it have the qualities that make it a keeper or does it lose its appeal once the newness wears off. 

have been on both sides of that equation, and i could not agree more.
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Thatguy sounds like a Tag Heuer PR guy's wet dream


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Tag is the latest company to shift focus to in house movements - http://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-movement-strategy-2012/

IMO, much of the WIS fixation on movements comes out of a desire to add intellectual substance to an otherwise pretty vacuous and inconsequential hobby. I'm sure that stamp collectors and furries have similar classifications and hierarchies to rationalize their pursuits. That said, there are many ways that an optimized movement can substantively improve a watch, in such areas as accuracy, reliability, dial configuration, case proportions, and useful complications.
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post
BTW Dino944, sure you're not going to reconsider not being reverso ebuddies with me? I may or may not have one on the way... icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Very tempting  decisions.gif.  I will certainly become a Reverso ebuddy with you one day.  However, I think the MRS will have me shot, stuffed, and mounted above the fireplace if I buy anything major before we know where we stand with our taxes.  So...DEETS please...

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy View Post

I am guilty of paying MSRP for one of my watches. It was just impossible to find this particular model at that time and I really wanted it. Am I am snob? No, I just wanted to have it - I know paying full price goes against SF rules:satisfied:

With regards to in-house vesus ETA, I couldn't care less. Give me a well machined case and a perfect dial and I'm a very happy customer. At the end of the day, how much hand finishing (e.g Pealage) do you really think goes into your watches?

 

Paying full retail does not go against SF rules.  I think its simply a matter of being an informed buyer.  There are watches I'd never pay full retail for...why, because I know I don't have to.  But I have paid MSRP on a few watches, because that was actually a good price...demand greatly outstripped supply and they were selling on the 2nd hand market for significantly more than I paid. 

 

Nothing wrong with not caring whats "under the hood."  We all have our priorities when it comes to watches.  As for the level of finishing on a movement, it greatly depends on the watch and what you are spending.  Within a certain range an ETA makes sense and its a good solid workhorse. However, once you are beyond a certain price range an ETA movement would be less acceptable to me. I'm not saying a movement would have to be made in house, but again at a certain price range I'd want something powered by a JLC, F.Piguet, Lemania, or Piaget movement.  If you think you are getting nearly the same level of workmanship and finishing on a $3,000 watch with an ETA movement as you will find in the top brands, well thats wishful thinking.

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Thatguy sounds like a Tag Heuer PR guy's wet dream


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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

I've heard some people say that it would have been great if JLC had released the new blue as another TTR 1931 edition, but I'm with Jerome Lambert on this choice - its not a winning formula to release multiple limited editions of the same model with minor superficial changes... A very refreshing pov from a ceo in these times (cough, AP, cough)...

+1 on on Jermone Lambert's choice.

 

I am undecided on whether I like the blue Reverso.  I think its a model I will have to see in person before making a judgment.

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A little Portuguese today

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