Originally Posted by Dino944
I wasn't initially sure about its wearability. However, red is versatile and its something you rarely see on fine watches. We see silver, white, black and occasionally blue. I think the Rouge is a great watch. I haven't seen it in person, however a friend that was at SIHH thought it was one of the best JLCs he has seen in years.
There were Rolexes from the 80s/90s with red sunburst dials which were clear enameled metal, I am not sure if they were Rolex-issued or a 3rd party option though.
Speaking of which, anyone else remember how the big Swiss ADs in the 80s/early 90s (their names escape me) used to stock 3rd party replacement dials in exotic materials?
After purchasing a Rolex Datejust, you would be offered the option of perusing a selection of dials, and if you said yes literally a panoply of dials made from malachite, jasper, agate, onyx, etc, would be brought out spread on a velvet tray. My dad has a very old Datejust with a blue jasper dial with diamond hour markers.
These dials were NOT
Rolex-made, rather after-market addons sold by these big ADs with Rolex adopting a Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy for them. They would service Rolexes sporting such 3rd party dials no questions asked, which is almost unbelievable given their draconian servicing policies today.
Originally Posted by Dino944
Ah, the 5015...definitely a stunning piece. Also interesting because it had a porcelain dial. My Dad had one in yg back around1995/96. Back in the days of huge discounts...MSRP was $19,995 and brand new from the AD it was out the door for $13,000. Today they sell for about$20-22K in yellow, rose, or wg. I haven't seen a PT one on the market in a while. This model had a short run and was replaced by the 5054, which had a much longer production span. Great watch.
Yep, this PP was purchased in a simpler time, a time when horology was not yet (relatively speaking) a mainstream pastime, a time when IWC made serious watches for serious men instead of mostly toys for big boys, a time when Hublot was Who-blot.
IMO the 5054 IMO messed up the balance of the 5015, with its oversized moonphase to accommodate the date indicator, and the complete lack of numerals from 3 to 9 o'clock. That said, I acknowledge the 5015's design is a bit of an acquired taste with its hobnail bezel, asymmetric dial, old-fashioned screwed-lug design, and all that jazz.
Finally, I am not sure the 5015 dial is porcelain
, I've always thought it was vitreous enamel. Patek has a bad habit of describing white enamel dials as "porcelain white" dials, which I think has led to a lot of confusion on the ground.
For all those out there who are wondering what the difference is, porcelain is a ceramic which is fired at higher temperatures than vitreous enamel, which is essentially glass on a metal base. Porcelain is much
harder to work with than enamel, and so is rare as the proverbial on watches. In contrast to hot/fired/vitreous enamel there is also "cold" enamel, which is just epoxy resin - the vast majority of enamel dialed watches on the market are cold enamel.