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You can put a Daytona on just about anything and it still doesn't look bad. It's a great strap but to me, it is too thick and rugged for a watch like the Daytona. Something a bit more streamlined and sleek might work better.

I think I should get that cordovan strap in black for my Sinn U1.
post #17582 of 34963
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Originally Posted by Axelman 17 View Post

You can put a Daytona on just about anything and it still doesn't look bad. It's a great strap but to me, it is too thick and rugged for a watch like the Daytona. Something a bit more streamlined and sleek might work better.

I think I should get that cordovan strap in black for my Sinn U1.
Two issues with that, unfortunately. One, the unpadded NOMOS straps might not be such a great match for the >14mm-thick U1. Two, they don't make them in 22 mm. Also, I'm not a fan of putting diver's watches on straps that are happier when they're dry, although cordovan is much better than leather in this department.
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

So... leather NATO on Daytona: yes/no?

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Sorry, really don't like it with the leather Nato.

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It's truly impossible to beat the original bracelet for this watch, but it's nice to have options. Of my 20 mm straps, I'm thinking these might be two of the better alternate candidates...

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The tan ostrich is probably your best bet since its so neutral, although I think I like it more on the Reverso than I would on a Daytona.  The darker strap with red stitching is interesting, but it probably wouldn't be my first choice for the Daytona (for me the red writing on the dial is enough).  I'd probably look for a dark strap with white stitching.

post #17584 of 34963
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Originally Posted by apropos View Post

Both. Fonts are wrong on the face, the back as someone mentioned before is completely unfinished and is also unsigned.

this. also, it claimed to be from 1918 and i did not see any mention of the watch being gold. i dont think they made watches like that in steel then, but i could be wrong.

also, the whole thing looked off, and if the price is too good to be true, it usually is.
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Originally Posted by Sander View Post

No, imho. It's not terrible, but there are much nicer options.
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Originally Posted by Axelman 17 View Post

I like the strap but not with the Daytona.

+1.
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

its really amazing what difference a strap can make on a watch.

nod[1].gif it can change the entire look of the piece.
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

There is something about those Reverso's on tan ostrich that is absolutely AWESOME. Probably one of my favorite combos.

agreed.
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Also, that may be the fakest IWC I have seen in quite some time. The IWC font is way off, it is usually thinner, and more refined. Also, the movement is a dead give-away. Unless they pulled a Panerai, IWC would not let something like that leave the factory.

HEY! panny movements are quite nice!
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

HEY! panny movements are quite nice!

He might be referring to the PAM 318 scandal, where Panerai promised the exclusive and limited edition "OP XXIX" movement for their Brooklyn Bridge model, but when some customers opened up the solid case back they found this:



I.e., an unfinished stock Unitas movement.
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

I'm not so sure that IWC is a "fake." It clearly states the watch was a pocket watch, and finishing was not common in pocket watches at the time. I am by no means an expert but people are hastily jumping to conclusions. Its a franken something but does not claim to be anything else.

 

People seem to be missing this. The watch being sold is [claimed to be] an IWC pocket watch, recased in a steel wristwatch case. The seller says it is recased and doesn't claim it is an IWC case, though he claims the dial is original. I have no idea whether it is real or not, but I suspect it is what it claims to be. The one thing that does give me pause is the location of the seconds subdial, relative to the ground. On most pocket watches, they are in a straight line. On wristwatches, they are at a 90 degree angle. A recased pocket watch should still have the crown and sub-dial on a straight line. But I don't know enough to conclude that is is a fake.
post #17587 of 34963
Glad you guys brought up the discussion on ladies watches. I'm also looking at an anniversary watch for the wife. I've looked at some of the smaller Rolex and Cartier Ballon Blue, but I've been drawn to the Omega mother of pearl Deville. She has a very small wrist and will want something without diamonds for daily wear. I don't want to of quartz, but I have been liking some of the MoP options. any suggestions around the $5k range?

I know a very few handful of guys that wear B&R and Sinn watches down range and a Omega SMP and Rolex or two. I love that Sinn GMT. GMT is a huge function to have here that leaves me wearing my Suunto more often than not, but after multiple deployments my Marathon GSAR has been the best, especially with the tritium tubes. If it had a GMT hand it would be perfect (which is why I covet that Sinn!). They have always serviced my GSAR for free and replaced the bezel and crystal after it got jacked up during some high adventure last deployment, class act!
If I could pick an all around watch I'd like the Omega SMP Apollo 15 40th Ann watch with the Red/White/Blue stripes on the outside of the dial. The SMP has always been a favorite and I'm a sucker for the patriotic color scheme.
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Originally Posted by johanm View Post

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Yep, that was all I meant smile.gif.

You know I am a Panerai fan! I would love to pick up the 112, or potentially the Radiomir equivalent!
post #17589 of 34963
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

People seem to be missing this. The watch being sold is [claimed to be] an IWC pocket watch, recased in a steel wristwatch case. The seller says it is recased and doesn't claim it is an IWC case, though he claims the dial is original. I have no idea whether it is real or not, but I suspect it is what it claims to be. The one thing that does give me pause is the location of the seconds subdial, relative to the ground. On most pocket watches, they are in a straight line. On wristwatches, they are at a 90 degree angle. A recased pocket watch should still have the crown and sub-dial on a straight line. But I don't know enough to conclude that is is a fake.

I may be wrong. The cal. 58 in the ebay watch was a pocket watch movement that DID have the crown at 3:00:
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Calibre 56, sometimes known as the “Schaffhausen” calibre, was a Savonette movement (with the winding mechanism and therefore the crown at 3 o’clock). It was first manufactured in 1889, a year after the debut of Calibres 52 and 53. Initially, this movement was paired with the Calibre 57, a Lépine version that was introduced in 1890.

Another Savonette movement of similar design, Calibre 58, was introduced in 1889. That calibre, too, subsequently was paired with Calibre 57. Both Calibres 57 and 58 were known as “Americaine” calibres, for reasons not known today.

Calibre 57 in many ways was a less expensive Calibre 52. Both used a three-quarter plate design, had identical size variations, and most parts were interchangeable. While watches with the Calibre 57 movement were priced less than those with a Calibre 52, the Calibre 57 still was an excellent movement. It had a bimetallic balance, a Breguet overcoil, and either classic lever or fine adjustment. 119,430 were made from 1890 to 1931; in addition, 19,100 Calibre 58s were produced.

Shown here is a typical Calibre 57 Lépine watch. It has a less expensive gold-filled case, and a classic dial with Breguet style numerals and hands. Also note the engraved dust cover, showing IWC’s Grand Prix award from the 1906 Milan exposition, Esposizione Internazionale del Sempione. The engraving reflects marketing and does not make the watch more special than other IWC models.
And here is what a cal. 57 movement looked like.

Are you all still sure the ebay watch is a fake?
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Originally Posted by johanm View Post

He might be referring to the PAM 318 scandal, where Panerai promised the exclusive and limited edition "OP XXIX" movement for their Brooklyn Bridge model, but when some customers opened up the solid case back they found this: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I.e., an unfinished stock Unitas movement.
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Yep, that was all I meant smile.gif.
You know I am a Panerai fan! I would love to pick up the 112, or potentially the Radiomir equivalent!

OIC. id be PISSED.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

People seem to be missing this. The watch being sold is [claimed to be] an IWC pocket watch, recased in a steel wristwatch case. The seller says it is recased and doesn't claim it is an IWC case, though he claims the dial is original. I have no idea whether it is real or not, but I suspect it is what it claims to be. The one thing that does give me pause is the location of the seconds subdial, relative to the ground. On most pocket watches, they are in a straight line. On wristwatches, they are at a 90 degree angle. A recased pocket watch should still have the crown and sub-dial on a straight line. But I don't know enough to conclude that is is a fake.

i admit, i dod not even read the whole thing. shog[1].gif

all solid points here. could very well be parts of a legit IWC. though in that case, i wouldnt want it anyways.
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The description states they have taken an "original" movement from an old pocket watch and put it in a "contemporary" case. There's maybe a few components that might have been from an IWC watch at some time and the rest has been fabricated by someone else and they've called it an IWC watch
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They called it an IWC watch for search engine optimization on ebay. Thats what sellers on ebay do. I heard. once. on the internet. Once people actually read the description, its clear whats being sold.
 

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There is something about those Reverso's on tan ostrich that is absolutely AWESOME. Probably one of my favorite combos.

Agreed. That looks delicious.
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

They called it an IWC watch for search engine optimization on ebay. Thats what sellers on ebay do. I heard. once. on the internet. Once people actually read the description, its clear whats being sold.

yes, people do that all the time. in fact, it just makes it more annoying for people searching for things to have to further filter their results and scroll through more irrelevant crap. i run into that with my ebay involvement for work all the time. its a pretty big PIA.
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

They called it an IWC watch for search engine optimization on ebay. Thats what sellers on ebay do. I heard. once. on the internet.
 

Sure its for a search engine and yes the description says, movement from this, case from that, dial from whatever, etc.  However, calling it an IWC wristwatch it creates the idea, probably among novices, that someone is buying an IWC watch.  

 

IMHO its a "Franken-watch" piece of junk.  I'm only interested in watches that are original and produced by real watch companies, but if someone wants to buy it I wish them luck.

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