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post #17536 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

If you want to keep with the aviator heritage go for a stowa or a a sinn. I understand that you have your heart set on the particular aesthetic B&R has but if it were me I would wait to see if it was a passing fad or something that stuck with me over the long haul. Like others have said B&R are overpriced for what you get.

 

You could always go and save up only a wee bit more and just get a Rolex no-date sub like a 14060 for just under 4k...or get a submariner homage for cheaper than that. I know some people have problems with homages but hell i'd take a steinhart over a B&R any day.

 

Theres also an omega speedy pro or a seamaster too


I keep reading the word "overpriced" in regards to B & R but luxury watches are just that and the price can only be justified by the wearer. Most would say any watch over $100.00 is overpriced and even a relatively high end piece like a BR03 would be beyond the concept of most people much less a Journe, Patek Philippe or AP. And even the watch enthusiast who owns these brands may have a B & R in their collection because it's what they want on their wrist. The square models been phenomenally successful for B & R for a reason. They are cool, big and the right watch at the right time.

post #17537 of 31207
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Originally Posted by ErikW View Post

Nice watch! I wasn't planning on spending that much on a B&R anyways - trying to stay under $3k and it looks like it's possible with the BR03-92. Any suggestions for the 1,500-3,000 price range (can be used)? I don't want a dress watch. I want something casual that I can wear everyday. Preferably automatic.
As far as I'm concerned, Sinn owns the under-$3K non-dressy category. They're an established, independent company with some real history — not some fashion-conglomerate-owned shell of a former name or lame-design-having off-the-shelf-Chinese-component-using fly-by-night "microbrand", their service is excellent, their no-BS designs are sober and functional, and they have a long list of useful technical innovations (surface hardening, de-humidification bits, lubricant-free escapements...). In short, they produce handsome, high-quality watches right in Germany, don't try to obfuscate the origin of their (top-grade) ETA movements, and price their stuff fairly.

They have an extensive list of models, although they apparently still haven't figured out how to take flattering photos of their own watches for their site.

If this even remotely appeals, check them out:



By the way, the hardened-steel thing is no joke. Here are my 20 mm and 22 mm bracelet clasps. Guess which one went through a bike crash...



Surprise, it ain't the scratched-up one, it's the one with the tiny dent on the lower left. They've both been subject to equal normal wear, aside from the hardened one taking a spill on asphalt. I don't know about you, but that's the kind of thing that I like having in a casual, everyday watch. One of the best luxuries is not having to worry about your stuff, so by that standard Sinns are extremely luxurious.
post #17538 of 31207
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Originally Posted by ErikW View Post

Anyone have any thoughts on Panerai?

yes. they are awesome. go buy one now.

if you want a 176 i have one i can hook you up with. spam[1].gif
post #17539 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post


Surprise, it ain't the scratched-up one, it's the one with the tiny dent on the lower left. They've both been subject to equal normal wear, aside from the hardened one taking a spill on asphalt. I don't know about you, but that's the kind of thing that I like having in a casual, everyday watch. One of the best luxuries is not having to worry about your stuff, so by that standard Sinns are extremely luxurious.

Wow, scratchproof demo for the win.

Belligero, you've become a Senior Citizen too!
post #17540 of 31207
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Wow, scratchproof demo for the win.

Belligero, you've become a Senior Citizen too!
Win... scratchproof... wha!? Hey — get off my lawn!
post #17541 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

As far as I'm concerned, Sinn owns the under-$3K non-dressy category.
They have an extensive list of models, although they apparently still haven't figured out how to take flattering photos of their own watches for their site.
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...and you posted my favourite one.
post #17542 of 31207

Yea, scratchproof is definitely a huge plus in my book. Does the Panerai have the same level of scratch resistance? They're titanium, right?

post #17543 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

One of the best luxuries is not having to worry about your stuff, so by that standard Sinns are extremely luxurious.

Well stated. It's a great feeling to have a watch you can really trust. I'm going to have to look into the Sinn hardened steel.
post #17544 of 31207
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Originally Posted by ErikW View Post

Yea, scratchproof is definitely a huge plus in my book. Does the Panerai have the same level of scratch resistance? They're titanium, right?
I'm not sure what kind of titanium they use, but if it's Grade 5, it's a fair bit more scratch-resistant than regular stainless steel. But it's not even close to hardened steel, unfortunately, except for the ceramic models — though they have an unfortunate tendency to shatter on impact. On the other hand, light scratches on normal steel or titanium polish/brush out easily, so it's not a huge deal. With a difficult-to-restore finish, like Sinn's bead-blasting, the scratch-resistance is a welcome bonus. Personally, I think the best defence against scratches is a watch that actually fits under one's cuff.

Aptly enough... peepwall[1].gif
post #17545 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post


 Personally, I think the best defence against scratches is a watch that actually fits under one's cuff.
 

 

+1

 

Also regarding Sinn, is there any watch that looks like the 556 without a date window?

post #17546 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

+1

Also regarding Sinn, is there any watch that looks like the 556 without a date window?
Personally, I haven't seen anything like their midnight-blue/black sunburst dial anywhere near that price. No-date baton-marker 556 would have no competition for the money or a fair bit above. As it is, I still think the 556 is the best value out there for a mechanical watch, at least if looks count at all.

This more than adequately fills the role of a non-date 556 for me, but I realize it's not quite the same thing.

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Same principle, though; simple, rugged, understated watch with small script font on a sunburst dial.
post #17547 of 31207

was actually looking at enicar earlier this morning. love this. I am looking for a lovely inexpensive vintage looking brown strappy watch and this looks perfect
 

post #17548 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

+1

Also regarding Sinn, is there any watch that looks like the 556 without a date window?

6110 black dial maybe?
post #17549 of 31207

Thanks for the suggestion. To be specific: the same styling as the 556a or 856 but without a date window--has such a thing ever been made (even if its not part of the current line up)?

 

 

I'd love a watch like the one above without the date window, though i prefer this one tilted at the 4 o clock infinitely more than the one that floats somewhere in the middle sitting upright

post #17550 of 31207
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

was actually looking at enicar earlier this morning. love this. I am looking for a lovely inexpensive vintage looking brown strappy watch and this looks perfect
Thanks! Works perfectly too, which ain't bad considering that it's somewhere around 50 years old and I have no idea when it was last serviced. I mainly use it for lending out as a gateway drug into watch appreciation, but it's always nice when it comes back. The movement in there is of very high quality, but these older watches from now-defunct companies cost very little. The type of skilled blue-collar Swiss labour that was employed in making them is long gone, at least at 1960s rates. It's mostly been replaced by machines, many of which now operate in China while producing movements which are still technically considered "Swiss" due to the loopholes that lower-end companies pushed as a response to the quartz massacre, and I believe is now undermining the credibility of certain players in the industry.

Anyway, I'm very happy with my Enicar and it's endured admirably in daily wear on the wrists of non-watch people, so I recommend it highly.
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