"NO" just seeing who associates himself with Rolex (brand junkies), now I know! I myself, have owned many brands, new, never pre-owned( nothing against pre-owned)! But if you talk to a watch maker he will not laugh at what you wrote! There is no Rolex patent that was'nt already thought of, or that was already being produced, nothing special, other companys would have come to the same conclusions, Rolex just got it patented first! This qoute came from a watch maker(not verbatim) 70+yrs old who still gets commissioned from these 2 brands(think Johns lying? I doubt it)! Also, he did mention Omega has a better movement( he explained,but my memory sucks)! I know people dont like to hear that they have been duped, sorry! How many Rolexes do you own? I dont know what to tell you, sell'em? I did, glad I did, liberate yourself Dino449, now go purchase that overrpriced ss seamatser, and dont forget to post it here ! If this debate is all about the looks, please disregard, not very pleasing 2me either
I think you need to switch to decaf and go back and read my original post. As Jeff mentioned, there is nothing in my post about patents and who invented what. I simply said, Omega seems to follow Rolex's foot steps. You have overlooked that I said Omega makes some very good watches and they should stick to making things that show their own DNA.
As for watch makers not laughing at what I wrote, well maybe the truth just isn't that funny. You seem worked up about my discussion of the colored bezels Sub LV vs Planet Ocean orange bezel, the PN Daytona style dials on Speedy Pros, and the Milguass and the New AT with dotted second hand (rather than lightning bolt) and the clearly "mimicked Oyster bracelet'" but in your post labeling me a Rolex brand junkie, you did not actually argue that I was wrong about Rolex making these items and then Omega following them. Not to mention, throwing an Oyster bracelet on that new antimagnetic AT ....really? How original !
As for patents, most brands have several patents for a variety of things, but your explanation that everyone thought of it first but they didn't patent it... its just Rolex patented first ...please spare me the BS. Its like saying who cares that someone won the 100m dash at the Olympics...the sillver medalist gets there right after him. And the idea that Rolex got there first but others would have thought of it, with that line of thinking... who cares that Galileo and DaVinci had certain ideas...modern scientists would have come to the same conclusions eventually.
Yes I do own a few Rolex watches. But before you label me a Rolex brand junkie, I have own several other brands and I have owned an Omega Seamaster. My Seamaster was fine but uninspiring, basic ETA movment, and eventually it just wasn't what I wanted. So I sold it to fund another watch. I probably would not buy another Seamaster. However, if you have read some of my other posts, I have regularly praised the Speedy Pro as that is one watch I would like to own. I also like the vintage Flightmaster of the 1970s...kind of intersting retro watch. In additon, my friend's experience with Omegas Seamaster waws far from perfect. Several years ago one of my best friends owned 2 Seamasters and had quality control problems with each. He bought an outgoing Seamaster and a few days after purchasing it noticed that there was a small feather floating around between the crystal and the dial...this added entertainment was at no extra cost! So my buddy brought it back and traded it toward a new generation Seamaster. Within six months he noticed the extension part of the bracelet clasp kept opening from the back. It went back, Omega replaced the bracelet and clasp twice for the same issue. He gave up and got a Speedy Pro...that ran perfectly. He mistakenly sold his Speedy pro when he fell for another watch...but several years later bought another Speedy Pro that he still has.
If you are going to tell me Omega has a better movement, you need to be far more specific as to what watches "Your watchmaker" is comparing and why. In what way is he saying they are better? A generalization coming from some unknown watch maker doesn't mean much...are we talking a 1980s Rolex Sub to a 1980s Seamaster, a modern Daytona to a current Speedy Pro, vintage vs. current? Keep in mind that for many years Omega went the route of basically putting ordinary ETAs in most of their watches, which is acceptable but not impressive. In recent years Omega has gotten into making their own movements...and Rolex has made improvement to their own movements which were already made in house, so each comany stepped up its game. And lets be honest, most movements in Rolex or Omegas may be very good, but they are far from the standards used by PP, AP, ALS, VC, JLC or Piaget.
Also before you label me as a Rolex junkie, perhaps you should also consider your own prejudice against the brand. Seems you prejudge those of us that have a Rolex and if I'm not mistaken I've seen you refer to them a Borlex and now you think buyers were duped. So you seem to wear your dislike maybe for the brand and/or owners on your sleeve. As for being duped with my Rolex watches, I could sell any of mine for a profit tomorrow...I couldn't say that about my experience with selling my Omega...nor could I say it about the 1st Speedy Pro my friend sold.
As I've said in the past no one brand or watch can be everything to everyone. If we all agreed on brands & models to buy it would be a boring place. Maybe you and I will always disagree about brands, but I have enjoyed our debate.