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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

the latest object of my watch desires. want so bad. rolex 16760 gmt master II.

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Reminds me of my very first GMT (although it was before the GMT 2).   I eventually tired of the black bezel because everyone who ever commented on it would say, "Nice Sub."  Its almost like without the Pepsi bezel, a GMT doesn't have its own identity.

 

The one in your photos looks like a it has quite a bit of bracelet stretch, and the lume on the hands doesn't match the lume on dial.  Makes me wonder if the hands were replaced at some point, might make them more functional but I like when all the lume matches and has that nice cream color to it.

 

Still brought back good memories of my 1st good watch.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

technically, its not current. it is the original gmt master II, the 16760 and was run only for 5 years. replaced by the better known, 16710. i think that is correct. so i have learned in my investigating today anyways. also, the creamy white hour markers are delicious.

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Good to know! I really like the creamy markers as well. It really adds character to a watch. An experience that my friend had at a dinner with a potential employer really caused me to re-think adding a Rolex to the stable anytime soon!

It was kind of a meet-and-greet sort of situation--and my friend was wearing his two-tone Datejust he received for graduation. He is not a watch guy at all, but wears it more out of respect for the gift. Anyways, we were speaking with one of the partners, and the Rolex caught the partners' eye. Anyways, the gentleman made a big deal out my friend "having accomplished so much to be able to afford a Rolex at such a young age," and making remarks of that ilk. Sure, the guy was an ass-hat, but I don't think it benefits anyone to bring attention to themselves like that. I can comfortably say that no one ever said anything about my now-departed JLC-MC, nor has anyone ever mentioned by Omega. I tend to like that.
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It was kind of a meet-and-greet sort of situation--and my friend was wearing his two-tone Datejust he received for graduation. He is not a watch guy at all, but wears it more out of respect for the gift. Anyways, we were speaking with one of the partners, and the Rolex caught the partners' eye. Anyways, the gentleman made a big deal out my friend "having accomplished so much to be able to afford a Rolex at such a young age," and making remarks of that ilk. Sure, the guy was an ass-hat, but I don't think it benefits anyone to bring attention to themselves like that. I can comfortably say that no one ever said anything about my now-departed JLC-MC, nor has anyone ever mentioned by Omega. I tend to like that.

This is a major concern of mine. My father has let me wear his Datejust a few times and it's always solicited responses from people. Mostly negative. That alone has steered my search towards lesser-known brands, as stupid as that is to think aloud.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Reminds me of my very first GMT (although it was before the GMT 2).   I eventually tired of the black bezel because everyone who ever commented on it would say, "Nice Sub."  Its almost like without the Pepsi bezel, a GMT doesn't have its own identity.

The one in your photos looks like a it has quite a bit of bracelet stretch, and the lume on the hands doesn't match the lume on dial.  Makes me wonder if the hands were replaced at some point, might make them more functional but I like when all the lume matches and has that nice cream color to it.

Still brought back good memories of my 1st good watch.

thanks for the info dino. i actually like the all black bezel a lot. i prefer it for the most part to the multi color, and if people mistake it for a sub, oh well, lol.

yes, i know the bracelet has some stretch, hopefully i can use that to get my boss to sell it to me for cheaper. devil.gif

interesting point about the hour markers, no idea if they are replacements or not, ideally i guess i would like them to match too, but i f i can get a killer deal on a vintage watch like this that does not come across so often, i dont think the slight lack of creaminess in the hands would deter me.

again, thanks for the info, very helpful and as always, interesting.
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Good to know! I really like the creamy markers as well. It really adds character to a watch.

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An experience that my friend had at a dinner with a potential employer really caused me to re-think adding a Rolex to the stable anytime soon!
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It was kind of a meet-and-greet sort of situation--and my friend was wearing his two-tone Datejust he received for graduation. He is not a watch guy at all, but wears it more out of respect for the gift. Anyways, we were speaking with one of the partners, and the Rolex caught the partners' eye. Anyways, the gentleman made a big deal out my friend "having accomplished so much to be able to afford a Rolex at such a young age," and making remarks of that ilk. Sure, the guy was an ass-hat, but I don't think it benefits anyone to bring attention to themselves like that. I can comfortably say that no one ever said anything about my now-departed JLC-MC, nor has anyone ever mentioned by Omega. I tend to like that.

lol, classic rolex two tone story. far less likely to happen with a non two tone. but i hear ya.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

This is a major concern of mine. My father has let me wear his Datejust a few times and it's always solicited responses from people. Mostly negative. That alone has steered my search towards lesser-known brands, as stupid as that is to think aloud.

you are not alone in thinking it. some people dont like that, others dont care and yet others enjoy it. the important thing is geting a watch you like, and you feel comfortable with.

also to think about, if you really truly like one thing more than other things, dont let other peoples stupidity get in the way of your satisfaction, imo. noting worse than spending good money on something and wishing you had something else. again, just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

also to think about, if you really truly like one thing more than other things, dont let other peoples stupidity get in the way of your satisfaction, imo. noting worse than spending good money on something and wishing you had something else. again, just my opinion.

I'd agree with this for the most part. Though I do think culture, lifestyle and career play a large role here. Watches are a lot like cars in my opinion. The perception of a "fancy" car or the knowledge of an expensive brand quickly leads to preconceived notions. Especially being a younger guy just starting out, it looks off if I roll up in a new S Class wearing a Rolex and alligator shoes. Granted it's generally insecurity or jealousy that motivates a lot of the preconceived notions, but it is something to be cognizant of (at least for me, right now). I hope one day I can confidently say "Fuck the haters" as I count my money on my yacht, but in the meantime I don't have the luxury of apathy.

That said, I highly doubt a Mark XVII would get any undue attention. And anyone that recognizes it, to my thinking, will likely be more impressed than pissed. At least that's my thinking.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

That said, I highly doubt a Mark XVII would get any undue attention. And anyone that recognizes it, to my thinking, will likely be more impressed than pissed. At least that's my thinking.

It's not the prettiest watch in the world but I think this is 100% accurate.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

Thanks again for the info, Kap! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

You're very welcome :-)

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Originally Posted by PartagasIV View Post

Would love input on looking for a sister's college graduation watch. Originally wanted to give a birth-year vintage sub for a slightly 'chunky,' masculine watch--

While a sub can look great on a girl, I'd go with something smaller unless she's expressed a particular wish for that size.

My sister has one of these

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which I personally find too small at 25mm, but I know a girl who recently got an Air King which looked great on her at 36mm. The previous 36mm Explorer would be great as well. Or maybe something like this, also 36mm.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

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I'd agree with this for the most part. Though I do think culture, lifestyle and career play a large role here. Watches are a lot like cars in my opinion. The perception of a "fancy" car or the knowledge of an expensive brand quickly leads to preconceived notions. Especially being a younger guy just starting out, it looks off if I roll up in a new S Class wearing a Rolex and alligator shoes. Granted it's generally insecurity or jealousy that motivates a lot of the preconceived notions, but it is something to be cognizant of (at least for me, right now). I hope one day I can confidently say "Fuck the haters" as I count my money on my yacht, but in the meantime I don't have the luxury of apathy.

That said, I highly doubt a Mark XVII would get any undue attention. And anyone that recognizes it, to my thinking, will likely be more impressed than pissed. At least that's my thinking.

i hear you, and i think work environments and age do make a difference. i am old (30) and work in the watch and jewelry industry, where no watch is really going to make people think twice unless its high 5 or 6 figures. and i agree that the IWC will go mostly unnoticed and those who do would likely not have the adverse reaction you are trying to avoid.

when buying a nice watch there always many considerations, and i feel, that in the end, the best way to do it is to weight all of those considerations and buy what makes you happiest and most satisfied, all things considered.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

yes, i know the bracelet has some stretch, hopefully i can use that to get my boss to sell it to me for cheaper. devil.gif

interesting point about the hour markers, no idea if they are replacements or not, ideally i guess i would like them to match too, but i f i can get a killer deal on a vintage watch like this that does not come across so often, i dont think the slight lack of creaminess in the hands would deter me.

again, thanks for the info, very helpful and as always, interesting.

 

Hey Stitch, just as long as you recognize the stretched out bracelet and non original hands will reduce the value of the watch if you ever go to sell or trade it.  The bracelet can be replaced if you spend some $, but you won't find hands to match the dial. 

 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

also to think about, if you really truly like one thing more than other things, dont let other peoples stupidity get in the way of your satisfaction, imo. noting worse than spending good money on something and wishing you had something else. again, just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post


I'd agree with this for the most part. Though I do think culture, lifestyle and career play a large role here. Watches are a lot like cars in my opinion. The perception of a "fancy" car or the knowledge of an expensive brand quickly leads to preconceived notions. Especially being a younger guy just starting out, it looks off if I roll up in a new S Class wearing a Rolex and alligator shoes. Granted it's generally insecurity or jealousy that motivates a lot of the preconceived notions, but it is something to be cognizant of (at least for me, right now). I hope one day I can confidently say "Fuck the haters" as I count my money on my yacht, but in the meantime I don't have the luxury of apathy.

Some times it also depends on how one wears a watch.  I've seen guys that wear them out, almost over their cuff and a manor that people can't help but notice their watch be it a Rolex or some other brand. 

 

However, to be honest I've owned Rolex watches for years and they largely go unnoticed.  Even a friend of mine that said he would buy a Rolex because they are too flashy and attract too much attention, decided to buy one of the last generation Explorer IIs.  He was concerned about the attention it would draw.  He found that no one care, noticed or commented on it and he has worn it for the last 2 years.  I think your friend's experience is a bit rare.

post #16946 of 33946
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when buying a nice watch there always many considerations, and i feel, that in the end, the best way to do it is to weight all of those considerations and buy what makes you happiest and most satisfied, all things considered.

QFT
post #16947 of 33946
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post


You're very welcome :-)
While a sub can look great on a girl, I'd go with something smaller unless she's expressed a particular wish for that size.

My sister has one of these

watch-club-rolex-oyster-perpetual-lady-10405-402x402.jpg

which I personally find too small at 25mm, but I know a girl who recently got an Air King which looked great on her at 36mm. The previous 36mm Explorer would be great as well. Or maybe something like this, also 36mm.

 

I have the Rolex Explorer at 36mm and I love wearing it.  I bought my wife a Datejust at 36mm... and she loves wearing it too! :)

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Very true.

Today.

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Good to know! I really like the creamy markers as well. It really adds character to a watch. An experience that my friend had at a dinner with a potential employer really caused me to re-think adding a Rolex to the stable anytime soon!

It was kind of a meet-and-greet sort of situation--and my friend was wearing his two-tone Datejust he received for graduation. He is not a watch guy at all, but wears it more out of respect for the gift. Anyways, we were speaking with one of the partners, and the Rolex caught the partners' eye. Anyways, the gentleman made a big deal out my friend "having accomplished so much to be able to afford a Rolex at such a young age," and making remarks of that ilk. Sure, the guy was an ass-hat, but I don't think it benefits anyone to bring attention to themselves like that. I can comfortably say that no one ever said anything about my now-departed JLC-MC, nor has anyone ever mentioned by Omega. I tend to like that.

I love getting attention/compliments on my stuff, but Rolex draws a uniquely intrusive type of attention in the form of assumptions people make about your life story. Usually that (i) you got it as a gift for some type of achievement, e.g. graduation or wedding, or (ii) you wanted to buy a expensive watch but were ignorant of the other options. Frankly I like many Rolexes but I make the same assumptions when I see them on the street.
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Originally Posted by elisiX View Post

Very true.

Today.
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That is a real beaut, and a great pic. Like the shirt/pants combo too.

 

My two "cousins":

 

 

 

A wrist shot of the Big Ing DFB:

 

 

And the display back:

 

 

 

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