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Hi Guys I need some advice, I want to buy one of these 2 watches, and would like to know which you would choose above the other and why.

 

 

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Go for the less complicated! Unless, you actually need the chrono feature!  That 3-hand is an excellent dress watchfing02[1].gif

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Wearing this one today.

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Style and good taste, a true classicworship2.gif

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http://www.styleforum.net/t/36253/the-watch-appreciation-thread/10005#post_5137032

 

Compare the older version of the villeret moonphase to the new version through the above link. I prefer the older version. As HEPennypacker said, I dont know how I feel about that curved date hand, and I think the roman numerals, the logo placement, and the moon face are all superior on the previous version
 

I looked at this watch HARD before the MUT Moon was announced, then switched my loyalty. I've tried on both (that is to say the MUT Moon and the older Villeret Moon. Ive never seen the new BP VM). The BP is smaller at 38mm. It's a more classic look (in terms of morning suits and monacles) whereas the JLC is going for a more modern stripped down minimalism IMO. I've read a few complaints about the JLC in this regard, that it lacks a full calendar complication up top like the reverso calendar or the BP VM but as i said I think they were trying to strip things down.

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Originally Posted by ant702 View Post

Style and good taste, a true classic:worship2:
+1.
The Nautilus is a grail for me. such a refined classic.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I like it, and the condition at least in the photo is excellent!  I have often thought that if I got a Patek I would choose a Gondolo or some other rectangular model.
If you don't have a rectangular watch, I highly recommend adding one you your collection.  I love having non-round dress watches.  At times seem a bit more formal and unexpected.  They also look and wear differently than round watches.  You don't have to go very large for them still to look modern.   I wear round sport watches most of the week so if I dress up for an evening out it feels a bit more special to put on a non-round watch.  Maybe like if you wear sneakers much of the week and then you put on a pair of bespoke shoes for nice event.  Just my 2 cents.
 Go for the one on the leather band.  Although, I'd look for one without the date cutting up the number 6.
 Great watch.  My LV doesn't get enough wrist time but its one of my favorites.
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Before I really got into collecting, I thought not giving a watch a date function was just a cost saving measure. Now I recognize how often the symmetry of a dial is lost due to a date function. Its really quite sad what a mess companies often make of a dial just to put in a date window.  I think most companies believe adding a date for practicality's sake increases the number of potential buyers.  Just one example, but the Rolex Daytona has been subject to lots criticism for not having a date.  Just research it on TZ.  When Rolex used the Zenith El Primero as a base people ranted about them not making use of the date function that the movement has.  Then some people bitched that the inhouse movement didn't give a date.  I've also seen a ton of posts about people selling them after a short time because they found they can't live with a watch that doesn't have a date function.  So sadly, I think its a bit of management pandering to the masses who complain when a watch doesn't have a date.  I think collectors or those with an interest in design are the ones that more often choose watches without a date.   

I hate date functions because they don't really work. Except on annual calenders, they don't actually "know" the number of days in a month, so you need to constantly re-set them yourself. I won't buy a date function watch for that reason. The one exception I know of is the new Rolex Sky-Dweller which accounts for everything but February, so it only needs to be adjusted once a year. The dial is a mess, but if they could figure out how to clean it up, it would be an awesome watch.

BTW, if anyone knows of other movements that deal with the date like the Sky-Dweller, I would be interested .
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"constantly" = 5 times a year smile.gif

Do you keep all your watches wound and ticking at all times?
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"constantly" = 12 times a year smile.gif
Do you keep all your watches wound and ticking at all times?
Actually, "constantly" is less than 12 times a year. You only need to set it after a 30 or 28 day month. I think it is the principle that bothers me most in that it is in inelegant implementation. Mechanical watches are neat because they are machines that work and the date function doesn't seem to "work" right. It is a level of clumsiness we wouldn't accept in most other functional devices. But I am certainly not claiming it should bother you.

Also, I am not a watch guy. I don't change watches often. I tend to wear the same watch every day for months at a time, with the occasional swap for a dress watch. So, to answer your other question, I will go six-months or so with my main watch wound all the time, so a non-working date would bug me (and I do have some vintage chronographs like that - I just don't set the date at all and ignore it).
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Style and good taste, a true classicworship2.gif

Thank you Sir.

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Wearing this one today. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

+1.
The Nautilus is a grail for me. such a refined classic.

its a beauty. there are only a handful of non super sporty very thick watches that i really LOVE on a metal bracelet. RO, nautilus, and maybe some a few others i cant think of.
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"constantly" = 5 times a year smile.gif
Do you keep all your watches wound and ticking at all times?

i do not. i dont own a winder. i actually enjoy resetting my watches when i switch from one to the next. i think its fun, and manly.
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excellent.
its a beauty. there are only a handful of non super sporty very thick watches that i really LOVE on a metal bracelet. RO, nautilus, and maybe some a few others i cant think of.
i do not. i dont own a winder. i actually enjoy resetting my watches when i switch from one to the next. i think its fun, and manly.

Thank you sir.

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I'm thinking of getting rectangular watch for fancier evening events. I've tried on the JLC Reverso Ultrathin but didn't like it enough to pay the $$$$. Similarly, I have considered the Lange Cabaret but it is tough to justify the price tag. So lately I've been browsing vintage watches to see if anything interesting at a fair price pops up.

Both of the watches you mentioned are really nice, but you have to like them and yes the price on the Lange is a bit tough to swallow.  Vintage is always a good option and often means you won't see lots of other people with the same watch.  One watch that I thought was kind of cool years ago was the IWC Novecento, from the 1990s.  It never developed a huge following but it was a good looking watch and they even made a perpetual candendar version which was very cool for a rectangular watch.  I had a client from Italy come in wearing an IWC Novecento perpetual calendar on one wrist and a gold Daytona on the other.  Both were really good looking watches.  Where there wasn't a huge following price on them are probably quite reasonable today. 

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Both of the watches you mentioned are really nice, but you have to like them and yes the price on the Lange is a bit tough to swallow.  Vintage is always a good option and often means you won't see lots of other people with the same watch.  One watch that I thought was kind of cool years ago was the IWC Novecento, from the 1990s.  It never developed a huge following but it was a good looking watch and they even made a perpetual candendar version which was very cool for a rectangular watch.  I had a client from Italy come in wearing an IWC Novecento perpetual calendar on one wrist and a gold Daytona on the other.  Both were really good looking watches.  Where there wasn't a huge following price on them are probably quite reasonable today. 

Wow, the Novecento perpetual is gorgeous:



If it had a second hand, I would be all over this. Makes you wonder how in the world IWC went so far astray with the aesthetics of the Da Vinci line.
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I was talking once to a huge watch guy. He used to make vacations out of visiting all the various factories - IWC, JLC, Rolex, AP etc. I think he was an engineer and he was saying the Blancpain factory was incredible, and the way they engineer/manufacture their cases was spectacular. He went on about the details, but my memory sucks and I'm just not qualified to speculate on what he was saying. Needless to say, Blancpain = awesome.

I totally agree, a little under-appreciated IMO. (I feel the same way about GP btw)


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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

it really is. so well finished, and so robust yet simple and classy. its a great watch. they are under appreciated sometimes in general i think.
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Went with this one today:

 

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GP, GO, and BP are all brands I like, yet something keeps holding me back. I generally like their aesthetic, but something is just off enough to prevent me from pulling the trigger
 

I think it was in stitches who said something to the effect of what usually happens is people just go to JLC as a default. I dont know what it is that makes JLC right and those other guys wrong but I find my thought patterns following that well worn groove he described.

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