The Watch Appreciation Thread - Page 1052

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Originally Posted by in stitches 


in my investigating, i see they defo did make watches just branded "jaeger."
as to the change over, i once knew all that history, but i forgot.
this is from wikipedia. 1937 was the official change to JLC, even though Edmond Jaeger became involved with lecoulture earlier on.

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Originally Posted by DerekS 

looks odd to me...ive never seen a vintage Jaeger watch...they've always been branded just LeCoultre. Id be interested if anyone has any insight into this. When did they go from LeCoultre to JLC? and did they ever produce Jaeger only branded watches.

Also what was missed out from your wiki text was this:

"Watches sold in North America were sold under the LeCoultre name from 1932 to approximately 1985."

So Jaeger-LeCoultre sold watches branded just LeCoultre until mid 80s. The earlier change was just for Europe and other markets.

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Originally Posted by in stitches 


that is very interesting. i hadnt even thought about it, but all the "jaeger" branded models i saw, were chronographs. thanks!

Under the Jaeger name they also produced speedometers, RPM, and other gauges for many foreign sports cars up until maybe the 1960s or so. 

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Originally Posted by Hayward 

Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know a good source for deployant clasps for watch straps that are unbranded and made in Switzerland?

http://www.mywatchmaker.net/deployantclasp.htm

Hey guys,

A while back I posted about getting a Hamilton Khaki Field as a Christmas gift for my dad; I've received and got it serviced and everything's fine :)

But now I'm wanting a vintage watch for myself; here are the options I've got currently:

Waltham

Bulova  Tank

Seiko Chrono

Bulova

Wondering which one you would pick and why and are there any one'c which I should write off straight away?

need to set the moonphase and the date, but thats today

Some JLC Master Series love today

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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm 


Dino, as an owner of several CPCPs, this servicing cost for time only CPCPs is 1650+ tax now for time only CPCPs (had one serviced this year).

Wow!  I have not had to have my CPCP Tank XL serviced yet.  I am surprised to hear that they are getting $1,650 to service a time only CPCP, as at least up until a few years ago the costs of servicing a standard (non CPCP) Cartier was very reasonable, almost inexpensive compared to Rolex.

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Originally Posted by ~ B ~ 


Its the Pasha with Piguet 1185 chrono. I got it as a gift so have no idea of its details. Wore it everywhere, even to catching sharks in the Caribbean. Ironically, the bracelet just fell apart when I was dining at a restaurant. A year later, while sitting down watching a film, the gold bezel literally just fell off.
I asked the Cartier boutique manager about their apparent lack of build quality, and all she could do was shrug. Since then, Ive given upP on Cartier.
Of course a recent trip to their boutique to examine their pieces did not help their case much - I saw finishing imperfections even in their Astrotourbillon!
Btw, their jewellery is priced 10 times more than their competitors. And their service staff has lately been getting more and more... unbecoming.

I have a Pasha 950 Chronograph with the F.Piguet 1185 movement.  While overall, its a good movement, I agree that the F.P 1185 in the Pasha its not finshed as finely as when it goes into an AP RO Chronograph or VC Overseas...and its also not as finely finished as movements in the CPCP pieces.  Then again, while the Pasha chronograph was quite far in price from an AP RO Chrono or VC Overseas Chrono.  Around 2002 its list price was about $6,800 on a bracelet, about $5,800 on a strap...and those were the pre-discount prices.  In steel and gold, on bracelet its list price was about $8,000.  An AP RO chrono was about $14,000, and when the Overseas Chronograph came out, it was always about $1,000-$1,500 less than APs RO chrono.  So as you can see while the Pasha was significantly more than say a Santos Galbee or Tank Francaise,  I always thought it was kind of the entry level way of getting a chronograph using an 1185.

I've had my Pasha for nearly 8 years and never had a problems with it, with the bracelet or the bezel (and once or twice) I accidentally hit the bezel against things.  As for your quality issues, do you know if your Pasha was pre-owned or new?  Also, I'm guessing when you say the bracelet fell apart you mean a screw came out either near the clasp or at the lugs.  If no locktite was used to hold the screws after a lot of wear, motion, and vibration, they can work themselves loose.  I had that happen on a Royal Oak many years ago.  But I noticed the screw was coming out before it actually came all the way out.  Now AP uses locktite to hold all of the screws in on their bracelets, but it makes sizing a bracelet a bit of a pain...although now you won't accidentally lose any screws.  Anyway, I can definitely see these experiences souring you on Cartier products. 

As for the boutiques/service you mentioned Asia in a prior post IIRC, so I presume you are not in the US.  Maybe service overseas has declined?   I only have great things to say about the ones I've dealt with especially, in Boston and Las Vegas.

As for their jewelry being 10x the price of their competitors...who are you considering their competitors today?  My wife really likes Van Cleef & Arpels' jewelry and I can tell you they are not any cheaper.  My wife has looked at Bvlgari and they really are not much cheaper and my wife does'n't like many of their designs other than their serpent watch with tubogas bracelet.  Tiffanys, I think only their vintage merchandise is competitive with Van Cleef, Cartier, Bvlgari, etc.  Just curious who you see as their competitors that are selling products for less...maybe I can convince my wife to go there instead and thereby save some extra watch money!   

Best regards,

Dino