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that is very interesting. i hadnt even thought about it, but all the "jaeger" branded models i saw, were chronographs. thanks!

Under the Jaeger name they also produced speedometers, RPM, and other gauges for many foreign sports cars up until maybe the 1960s or so. 

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Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know a good source for deployant clasps for watch straps that are unbranded and made in Switzerland?
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Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know a good source for deployant clasps for watch straps that are unbranded and made in Switzerland?

 

http://www.mywatchmaker.net/deployantclasp.htm

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Aha, thank you!
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Hey guys,

A while back I posted about getting a Hamilton Khaki Field as a Christmas gift for my dad; I've received and got it serviced and everything's fine :)

But now I'm wanting a vintage watch for myself; here are the options I've got currently:

Waltham

Bulova  Tank

Seiko Chrono

Bulova

 

Wondering which one you would pick and why and are there any one'c which I should write off straight away?

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The Privee Collection Cartiers were certainly interesting watches. However, having owned many Cartiers over the last ten years, I have noticed their quality and service slipping (though only in Asia - London and Paris boutique experiences are still amazing), and their servicing costs go up every single year. I find this simply usurious and will not abide the practice as a matter of principle.

This.
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As for the Privee Cartiers, they are nothing like the standard models of the past 10 years.  They are also more finely finished than their few higher quality non-ETA movment watches which were part of their mainstream collection.    Each use incredibly high quality base movements from JLC, THA, F.Piguet, and Piaget, and then they are finished to Cartier's own standards.  As for quality I would put them against any top brands.  Lange and Patek are the only ones that are definitely still more finely finished.  However, that still leaves them in very distinguished company.  As for the cost of service on a basic time only piece, they are significantly less than Rolex or the high end brands.  The few Cartier servicings on basic watches that my family has had done, ran about $450 (although the last was about 3 years ago).  I don't think you can get a Rolex serviced for under $600. 
Dino, as an owner of several CPCPs, this servicing cost for time only CPCPs is 1650+ tax now for time only CPCPs (had one serviced this year).
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Oh no, I understand that the Privee Collection is finished to a higher standard and was marketed as their marquee pieces. I checked out a friend's mono-poussoir with the THA movement and thought it was nice, but that I would rather have other watches for the money. I have a Cartier with the Piguet movement (though not CPC) and it is, suffice to say, badly made and finished. I think there are still several brands apart from Lange and Patek that could exceed Cartier.

As for Cartier servicing, seems it is a lot cheaper in the States. In Asia, it can run 2 to 3 times the amount you mentioned. I was quoted the price you mentioned to change the battery on my Cartier quartz travel clock!

Cartier servicing is not cheaper here...

the monopusher with the THA movement is very nice, and delicate.

which Cartier Piguet movement watch do you own? photos?
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Cartier servicing is not cheaper here...
the monopusher with the THA movement is very nice, and delicate.
which Cartier Piguet movement watch do you own? photos?

Its the Pasha with Piguet 1185 chrono. I got it as a gift so have no idea of its details. Wore it everywhere, even to catching sharks in the Caribbean. Ironically, the bracelet just fell apart when I was dining at a restaurant. A year later, while sitting down watching a film, the gold bezel literally just fell off.

I asked the Cartier boutique manager about their apparent lack of build quality, and all she could do was shrug. Since then, Ive given upP on Cartier.

Of course a recent trip to their boutique to examine their pieces did not help their case much - I saw finishing imperfections even in their Astrotourbillon!

Btw, their jewellery is priced 10 times more than their competitors. And their service staff has lately been getting more and more... unbecoming.
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Hope you're not tired on my JLC Master Chrono, here by flattering candle light satisfied.gif

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700

 

need to set the moonphase and the date, but thats today

 

Some JLC Master Series love today icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Dino, as an owner of several CPCPs, this servicing cost for time only CPCPs is 1650+ tax now for time only CPCPs (had one serviced this year).

Wow!  I have not had to have my CPCP Tank XL serviced yet.  I am surprised to hear that they are getting $1,650 to service a time only CPCP, as at least up until a few years ago the costs of servicing a standard (non CPCP) Cartier was very reasonable, almost inexpensive compared to Rolex.

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Its the Pasha with Piguet 1185 chrono. I got it as a gift so have no idea of its details. Wore it everywhere, even to catching sharks in the Caribbean. Ironically, the bracelet just fell apart when I was dining at a restaurant. A year later, while sitting down watching a film, the gold bezel literally just fell off.
I asked the Cartier boutique manager about their apparent lack of build quality, and all she could do was shrug. Since then, Ive given upP on Cartier.
Of course a recent trip to their boutique to examine their pieces did not help their case much - I saw finishing imperfections even in their Astrotourbillon!
Btw, their jewellery is priced 10 times more than their competitors. And their service staff has lately been getting more and more... unbecoming.

I have a Pasha 950 Chronograph with the F.Piguet 1185 movement.  While overall, its a good movement, I agree that the F.P 1185 in the Pasha its not finshed as finely as when it goes into an AP RO Chronograph or VC Overseas...and its also not as finely finished as movements in the CPCP pieces.  Then again, while the Pasha chronograph was quite far in price from an AP RO Chrono or VC Overseas Chrono.  Around 2002 its list price was about $6,800 on a bracelet, about $5,800 on a strap...and those were the pre-discount prices.  In steel and gold, on bracelet its list price was about $8,000.  An AP RO chrono was about $14,000, and when the Overseas Chronograph came out, it was always about $1,000-$1,500 less than APs RO chrono.  So as you can see while the Pasha was significantly more than say a Santos Galbee or Tank Francaise,  I always thought it was kind of the entry level way of getting a chronograph using an 1185.

 

I've had my Pasha for nearly 8 years and never had a problems with it, with the bracelet or the bezel (and once or twice) I accidentally hit the bezel against things.  As for your quality issues, do you know if your Pasha was pre-owned or new?  Also, I'm guessing when you say the bracelet fell apart you mean a screw came out either near the clasp or at the lugs.  If no locktite was used to hold the screws after a lot of wear, motion, and vibration, they can work themselves loose.  I had that happen on a Royal Oak many years ago.  But I noticed the screw was coming out before it actually came all the way out.  Now AP uses locktite to hold all of the screws in on their bracelets, but it makes sizing a bracelet a bit of a pain...although now you won't accidentally lose any screws.  Anyway, I can definitely see these experiences souring you on Cartier products. 

 

As for the boutiques/service you mentioned Asia in a prior post IIRC, so I presume you are not in the US.  Maybe service overseas has declined?   I only have great things to say about the ones I've dealt with especially, in Boston and Las Vegas.

 

As for their jewelry being 10x the price of their competitors...who are you considering their competitors today?  My wife really likes Van Cleef & Arpels' jewelry and I can tell you they are not any cheaper.  My wife has looked at Bvlgari and they really are not much cheaper and my wife does'n't like many of their designs other than their serpent watch with tubogas bracelet.  Tiffanys, I think only their vintage merchandise is competitive with Van Cleef, Cartier, Bvlgari, etc.  Just curious who you see as their competitors that are selling products for less...maybe I can convince my wife to go there instead and thereby save some extra watch money!   

 

Best regards,

Dino 

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Gents,
GF is looking to buy me a new watch to carry me through my mid twenties. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif Price range is $600-700, though if I found a stellar unit I could top off her contribution up to, let's say, $1300. This is my current piece:

Nothing impressive, but looks nice to my eye.
I am a big fan of this as well:

Please feel free to recommend! Leather bands are preferred as I find them more comfortable.
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Seiko SARB035 off the top of my head.

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