The Watch Appreciation Thread - Page 690

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about whether the crown is a replacement in this case. Nobody is making counterfeit "Probus Scafusia" crowns. If it was replaced on that watch, it was done by the factory--perhaps during a regular service. Even if it currently had the fish crown, there is a good chance IWC would change it out when you send it in for service anyway.

I like the fat lugs personally, but I like my diver to look solid like a diver and not a dress watch. Most people want their sub to do dual duty which I sort of understand and then a more elegant lug profile works better.

I feel the same way as kolecho on the lugs issue, and I've said as much here previously. WarrenG recently bought the bigger version and for the record I think it looks great on his wrist.

 

But akatsuki raises another valid point: some people want a submariner as a toolwatch/diver, as a diver first and foremost, to look big and badass. I on the other hand want it as a multipurpose watch, and as expected I lean pretty much the way he says I should.

 

When you say the 5513 has a matte dial, are you referring to the fact the 16040m has white gold surrounds on the dial markers or something more?

 

 

^^^ counterfeiting is not the issue but period correctness; this is jmho of course.

The Mark XV is not a rare, vintage collectible. "Period correctness" is not really an issue. Anyone who values the Mark XV for what it is will not care if the crown is one way or another, so long as it is a real IWC crown and installed by IWC. It is well known amongst IWC collectors that these crowns were switched out regularly.

In fact, it's a plus. The watch is either an older Mark XV that has been factory-serviced, or a later production Mark XV. Win-win.

Are you saying that all previous Subs and SDs don't look solid? I think the key word Kolecho used was, disproportioned, and I have to agree. Not to take anything away from the ceramic, parachrom or clasp. Aesthetics are purely subjective.

oh noz more semantics--I think we all understood what he meant.

 

Edit: akatsuki just purchased a big disproportionate lug, manly, heroic, steroid-improved sub. I happen to think it looks good on his wrist too.

 

I think his comments should be taken as subjective and impressionistic and nothing more.

 

 

True I did buy one... And oddly enough I have skinny 7" wrists. It is definitely a subjective measure...

But I am pretty much planning on picking up a dress watch next year anyway, so I wanted the Rolex to be a much "bigger" watch.

Congrats! Thats a really handsome example of a 5513.  A friend recently picked one up but yours is in much better condition.  Enjoy it!
 

 

Yep, prefer the no-date version of the Sub (or being pedantic, simply the Submariner, the date version being the Submariner with date), as the dial looks cleaner. Also, it's one less watch I have to adjust the date on! I much prefer the acrylic crystal on the 5513 to the sapphire crystal on the 14060M, but both are great watches: you can't go wrong.

Thanks mate.

Beautiful gdl. I may, in time, trade my Sub for a more traditional 5513, like yours. I am enjoying the combination of white gold surrounds and acrylic crystal although I appreciate it's not quite as collectible as a 5513 with matt dial.



The crown on my Mk XV has the fish - I will see if I can capture this: might be tricky with an iPhone. Agree it's only a very minor detail.

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