I suppose I am continuing the brand whoring aspect a bit, but at least I am trying to explain why I feel the way I do:
I think Lange is considered to be on par with Patek (mostly because Philip Dufour spends his time lamenting how the Swiss watch industry (including Patek) was falling behind the Germans, (namely Lange), and I also believe the only watch he has ever bought was a Lange). I'll agree with you that the cheaper watches can change perceptions, but the thing is, if you buy pretty much any Patek or Lange, you are getting a top class movement finished to the nth degree. The same is not true of every brand. For example, the Credor Eichi I posted earlier might be finished to an even higher standard than a Dufour, but nobody is going to put Seiko in that top class even though they are eminently capable of producing a top watch.
For me if youre talking real "HAUTE" stuff its PP and ALS. I dont know if I would include FPJourne. I feel as if that's approaching a slippery slope toward other esoterics like Bethune, Laurent Ferrier, MB&F etc....the list goes on. In all honesty they're all probably esoteric and we are having a pointless discussion.
I honestly have no idea why I'd put AP and VC a notch below, I just do.
Oh I know: AP Royal Oak and VC Overseas are unforgivably ugly to me.
VC Patrimony and Jules Audemars however....
Edited by Cylon - 1/30/12 at 6:59pm