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post #10036 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post


You have to buy what you like and what you think will fit your lifestyle better.  Personally, I find the IWC Portugeser Chronograph to be all shine and little substance.  While its look is distinctive (either you like it or you dont, I fall into the I don't catagory), but the movement is a rather basic Valjoux.  Yes they say they modify it but unless you are buying one of their split second chronos, IMHO there are not enough modifications to differentiate its movement from that found in several less expensive watches.  I'd rather have the Submariner for a first watch.  Its more rugged, if you don't have a dress watch it doesn't look bad with a suit (although a true dress watch would be best), and the movemnt is made by Rolex.  I'm not one who has to have an inhouse movement in a good watch, but if its not an inhouse movement I want it to be a higher quality movement like F. Piguet, Piaget, JLC, or Lemania to name a few.  If you want something high quality that is a little less conspicuous I'd go with something from JLC.


 

 



I on the other hand like the look of the IWC Portuguese, but I'm gonna have to defer to Dino on the $$$$ point. They are overpriced for what they offer. No doubt about it. I'd scope out Maurice de Mauriac or a Bell & Ross before I shell out big bucks for an IWC.

 

Personally I think Blancpain can be a little overpriced too.

 

Can't go wrong with a submariner or a JLC MC for your first watch.

post #10037 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Warren: GREAT watch! I love it. Despite not being much of a Rolex guy, I can definitely appreciate that watch smile.gif. Looks so clean. I like the cheesy pics too.

Thanks man. Now I can focus on my next watch purchase. Maybe a Reverso, IWC Port auto, or PML.... satisfied.gif
post #10038 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

I think both your choices are lovely. Most of the time I am underwhelmed by IWC, but the 7-day Portuguese is absolutely amazing. You should be able to pick up a JLC master control calendar cheaper than that though.

I would also take a second look at the two new offerings from JLC, the Master RdM, and the new Reverso Calendar that WarrenG, Newcomer and I have spoken of previously.

ya these are all great ideas. I seem to prefer the JLC MC with the grey dial although overall I think the RdM is a little "nicer" IMO (maybe more classic?). Reverso Calendar or Grand Taille are not bad bets either. smile.gif
post #10039 of 39110
i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross
post #10040 of 39110
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Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop View Post

i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross

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post #10041 of 39110
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Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop View Post

i dont get the statement re: that iwc is overpriced for what you get, then recommend bell and ross


IWC and B&R both offer military inspired cases with generic movements. If I really wanted such a look, I would rather spend $2-3k vs. $7-8k. That's all I meant by it.

 

I suppose I should have made it clearer that I was talking about a more macro discussion regarding the IWC brand than about the Portuguese Chrono in particular

post #10042 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post



IWC and B&R both offer military inspired cases with generic movements. If I really wanted such a look, I would rather spend $2-3k vs. $7-8k. That's all I meant by it.

I suppose I should have made it clearer that I was talking about a more macro discussion regarding the IWC brand than about the Portuguese Chrono in particular.

Really? which ones? I wasn't aware of that. The "Top Gun" supposedly has an in-house.. the others using ETA or something?
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post #10044 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Warren G. View Post


Thanks man. Now I can focus on my next watch purchase. Maybe a Reverso, IWC Port auto, or PML.... satisfied.gif


I am waiting to see what GO offers this year at baselworld before I make my decision biggrin.gif

 

(in the runing so far: reverso, GO senator, submariner 5513, explorer I, zenith el primero 38mm, or omega speedy pro)

post #10045 of 39110
yea, but iwc does a lot of finishing and is a highly modified movement. The bell and ross is pretty much a nice case with a generic off the shelf eta. Just a personal thing but b+r irks me with their "vintage" and heritage line when the company was started in the 90's. at least iwc has a history with providing ww1 pilots watches.
post #10046 of 39110
^ ya ... some of these companies' "history" is rather laughable.
post #10047 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

Beautiful Lonneker nod%5B1%5D.gif

Cheers C!
post #10048 of 39110
I believe the pilot's watch chronograph automatic uses Calibre 79320, which is based on the Valjoux calibre 7750 and is highly modified by IWC. 79320 CALIBRE CHRONOGRAPH MOVEMENT

The Portugese Automatic 7-Day uses an in house IWC manufactured 51011 calibre.
post #10049 of 39110
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post



I am waiting to see what GO offers this year at baselworld before I make my decision biggrin.gif

(in the runing so far: reverso, GO senator, submariner 5513, explorer I, zenith el primero 38mm, or omega speedy pro)

great choices.

1. Submariner 5513 ...you can probably get a really nice birth year.
2. Omega Speedy ... I missed mines dearly. Good thing I know the guy that bought my Speedy. I always offer to buy it back....
3. Explorer ...a solid and stealth watch
4. Zenith

Have you try on the Speedy and Explorer yet?
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