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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

I think both your choices are lovely. Most of the time I am underwhelmed by IWC, but the 7-day Portuguese is absolutely amazing. You should be able to pick up a JLC master control calendar cheaper than that though.

Also consider the Blancpain Villeret Moonphase in 38mm or 40mm. The aesthetic is similar to the JLC master control calendar, though instead of the bland looking small second hand at 6oclock, you get a moonphase complication of which you may know i am already a fan biggrin.gif (though I still don't know how I feel about the personified moon).

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I would also take a second look at the two new offerings from JLC, the Master RdM, and the new Reverso Calendar that WarrenG, Newcomer and I have spoken of previously.


Those are beautiful but I don't care for roman numerals. Does the Blancpain come with Arabic numbers?

Also, have you guys dealt with Wingate's watches? From what I've heard, they have a good rep. They have both the JLC Master Date (147.84.2A) & the IWC Portugese 7-Day (Call for Price).
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Originally Posted by Cuttingboard View Post

 Does the Blancpain come with Arabic numbers?


I think Villeret models are either  Roman/Dial Markers.

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Originally Posted by kngspook View Post

I was strongly considering for a long time was Glashutte as well -- Cuttingboard, you might like them too.

 

One of the other issue I'm struggling with...is the message each watch sends. I'm pretty young, and extremely fortunate to even be considering these watches.

 

I'm definitely looking for more of an heirloom/timeless piece.

 

1. I am definitely pro-Glashutte Original. Many others are too. I know gdl203 has a beautiful GO panomatic luna (if I got that name correctly), and my previous purchase was competing with the new GO senator automatic up until the end. I even liked the caseback on the GO more than the JLC.

 

2. How young are you? If you are 16 - 25 then I think what you're saying is true--might be prudent to stay in Omega, IWC or Zenith territory as they tend to give off a younger/sportier vibe. GO would even be a good choice as they straddle a classic yet creative playful aesthetic really well too. What is more important than age, however, is how you present yourself. Do you look young and casual, or are you more conservative in your dress and demeanor? Do you work in a professional environment or are you in college? Wear a suit every day or is it more business casual?

 

I certainly do think I think its good to recognize the things you are talking about, to be humble and grateful for the things you have in your life, but there is nothing inherently wrong with having nice things either. If you have an open shirt, chest hair sticking out, gold chain, and a loose chain 60mm U-Boat rattling around using every excuse to show it to people....then....yes you're a douche but I highly doubt that's the case here. I worried about similar things with my JLC but I can tell you that most people have not even noticed it--and I like it that way. If its something that really concerns you, then make sure the case is not thick (in terms of height) and your shirts cuffs are tailored to make sure it slides neatly away from view.

 

3. I completely agree with your collection comment. I will most likely continue my tradition of punctuating milestone moments with a watch (wedding, child birth, promotion etc.). In that way it serves to check on my covetousness, tells a great story, and gives a bit of purpose to this hobby of mine smile.gif

 

 


Edited by Cylon - 1/23/12 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

I think both your choices are lovely. Most of the time I am underwhelmed by IWC, but the 7-day Portuguese is absolutely amazing. You should be able to pick up a JLC master control calendar cheaper than that though.

Also consider the Blancpain Villeret Moonphase in 38mm or 40mm. The aesthetic is similar to the JLC master control calendar, though instead of the bland looking small second hand at 6oclock, you get a moonphase complication of which you may know i am already a fan biggrin.gif (though I still don't know how I feel about the personified moon).

350x525px-LL-1ee1ec6a_blancpainvilleretmoonphase.jpeg325x572px-LL-743e7e5e_blancpainvilleretmoonphase40mm.jpeg

I would also take a second look at the two new offerings from JLC, the Master RdM, and the new Reverso Calendar that WarrenG, Newcomer and I have spoken of previously.


Very nice.

But then, I am also somewhat biased.
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Has anyone ever dealt with Wingate's Quality Watches in Dallas, TX. I have a friend who bought a Rolex from them many years ago and he was very happy.
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I generally place Glasshute Original [hereafter GO] neck and neck with Jaeger LeCoultre. It is hard for me to say which is really the better value of the two. One thing to remember about Blancpain: from what I have heard, they have an absolutely TERRIBLE resale value. This may be anecdotal evidence, but it is something to think about. Personally, I would not care, but if that is something that is important to you, then you may want to keep that in mind. In regards to the message... I have one JLC as my dress watch / business casual watch, and I am only twenty-three years old--pretty young by most standards. I honestly cannot say that my watch, thus far, has generated any negative feedback. I don't think I send much of an old-timer message, but then I also dress fairly... somberly for my age. I also live in the South, which tends to err on the side of being a bit more conservative.

Two people have noticed my watch thus far, other than the odd person who compliments it. One of my girlfriends recognized the name of the watch from Bad Teacher, and asked me if it was some sort of poor man's Tag Heuer. I said pretty much. The other person was an older gentleman who seemed to approve of it.

I think that getting a Submariner or a Rolex would probably be unwise for someone our age. I think it tends to send the wrong message. I really cannot think of one message that it sends that could possibly be construed as positive. But that is just my opinion. I think you would be far better off with going with IWC, if that is something you are interested in.
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Thanks Fritz. :Cheers:
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

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GO all the way! The Panomatic Lunar is gorgeous, as are the Seventies and the Sixties series. I also agree with the Omega, IWC, Zenith suggestion. I think GO would be great too, due to their whimsical side. I completely agree that the whole issue is situational. In my opinion, it all comes down to what you are going to wear most. If you are more of a casual guy, you would benefit much more from a dress diver or something sportier. If you are in a suit everyday, it would probably be prudent to get something to fit under your shirtcuff. Personally, I think that Zenith is an excellent median between the two ranges, especially the Zenith El Primero. It is kind of like a 'nicer' Speedmaster. I think it translates very nicely between dress and casual environments. It also uses one of the most classic movements out there. I really like the new Winsor Annual Calendar, really cool watch. It's not very easy to find a chronograph annual calendar for under $10,000. IWC Portuguese would also be a great choice, I think they also bridge the gap between work and play.
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Does anyone on SF have an opinion on the quality of Citizen Eco-Drive watches compared with other watches in the same price ranges? How dependable are they as timepieces, and are they considered (at least by some) as at all "upscale" compared with any other national or international brands? Thank everyone in advance for assistance with this.
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I actually had one in hs and college, and loved it. Had an awesome blue dial and very reserved, elegant styling. I think they've gotten uglier over time. For the life of me I can't find it anywhere though--don't know where I put it. I think the idea of a solar powered watch is pretty cool, but its still at the mercy of a battery. Since mine is lost I am sure the movement is all messed up even if I were to find it. Long story short: don't think so friend.

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WarrenG, where are the pics we were promised?!

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here are some cheesy pics :

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Originally Posted by kngspook View Post

Similar to Cuttingboard, I'm also looking for a new watch, and in the under 7.5K range (preferably around 5K). This will be my first "real" watch, and probably the only watch I'm going to wear for a long time.

 

So I've been trying to decide based on the balance of several criteria, in rough order of priority.

  • Aesthetics, of course.
  • Versatility -- Since this will be my only watch for a while, I want to be able to wear it in a lot of different situations; the classics "suits to jeans".
  • Durability -- Of course I'd prefer that it doesn't break. But this also includes resistance to scratches, can it take a little splashing around (definition TBD...), can I pass it on to my (as yet unborn) kids?

 

But anyways, on to the fun stuff, the candidates:

 

IWC Portuguese Chronograph 3714

 

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(Love the aesthetics, concerned about the durability.)

 

Rolex Submariner 14060M

 

Rolex Submariner 14060M

 

(I like the aesthetics slightly less, but definitely wins on the durability, and slightly better on the versatility front, I think.)

 

The other idea is to just give up completely on the versatility front, and go for the dressier watch that will get less wear, and with that, the need for durability becomes less, and then get some really nice in that space (like a JLC Ultra Thin, Ultra Moon, or Master Chronograph).

 

Thoughts?


You have to buy what you like and what you think will fit your lifestyle better.  Personally, I find the IWC Portugeser Chronograph to be all shine and little substance.  While its look is distinctive (either you like it or you dont, I fall into the I don't catagory), but the movement is a rather basic Valjoux.  Yes they say they modify it but unless you are buying one of their split second chronos, IMHO there are not enough modifications to differentiate its movement from that found in several less expensive watches.  I'd rather have the Submariner for a first watch.  Its more rugged, if you don't have a dress watch it doesn't look bad with a suit (although a true dress watch would be best), and the movemnt is made by Rolex.  I'm not one who has to have an inhouse movement in a good watch, but if its not an inhouse movement I want it to be a higher quality movement like F. Piguet, Piaget, JLC, or Lemania to name a few.  If you want something high quality that is a little less conspicuous I'd go with something from JLC.


 

 

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Warren: GREAT watch! I love it. Despite not being much of a Rolex guy, I can definitely appreciate that watch smile.gif. Looks so clean. I like the cheesy pics too.
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