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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

^^ IIRC Zenith actually made movements for Rolex.


Rolex Daytona used a modified Zenith El Primero movement for many years, until Roles developed their own in-house movement.

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Stunning watch - great first post!
post #9723 of 48312
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Originally Posted by lbtemple View Post



Rolex Daytona used a modified Zenith El Primero movement for many years, until Roles developed their own in-house movement.

Yep that's my understanding as well. BTW the current El Primeros are amazing, especially the limited edition striking 10th. I had an opportunity to play with one at a local AD recently.
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There's lot's that you shoud be aware of ! smile.gif  and a good place to start is with reading up on the Mark11 models, here you will see the original dial for the Pilot's Watch - great reading
http://www.markeleven.com/  IWC is a great manufacturer of quality watches

Thanks Mirador!!
post #9725 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Cuttingboard View Post

I've beem thinking about buying the IWC Pilot Chronograph and I'm curious if anyone has experience with the company and reliability? The IWC Pilot's Watch uses a 79320 Cal, which is a highly modified Valjoux 7750 movement.

Is there anything that I should be aware of regarding IWC and their watches?

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You should be aware that the older chrono 3706 is much better looking biggrin.gif

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Also check the double chronos 3711 and 3713.
post #9726 of 48312
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First things first, Jstuff: That is awesome!

 

Second, my brother-in-law who works in a remote location overseas asked me to trot off to my local AD to snap some photos of some Rolexes for him. He just came back from a vacation with his wife in the Gulf and saw some Rolexes there (Yes I know, Rolexes in the Gulf? No way!), and now he wants one.

 

Now, I will preface everything with an apology for the poor picture quality (though I think there is some value in seeing watches in a less than ideal photos/conditions), and the big fat smudge on the face of the GMT II (why my wife didn't correct that, I will never know)...

 

From first to third reading from L to R we have the Explorer II, The GMT Master, and the Submariner

 

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Impressions:


1. The Explorer II does not have as nice a finish as the other two. You can see in the pictures, the Explorer II comes off quite dull with the matte finish. I think, though, it has the nicest, most refined shape of all three.
2. The current version of the Submariner does not look very nice. Especially in comparison to the one J stuff shared above. The lugs are poorly shaped and it makes the whole watch clunky (both visually and on the wrist). You can see in the picture how I my thumb is there helping to hold it up. .
3. The GMT has a very polished finish, and a nice overall look. The black bezel pops compared to the Explorer II matte + same colored bezel.

In the end, I think it comes down to the overall shape of the Explorer II (though I would prefer a white dial), to the shinier, more polished finish of the GMT Master, though I don't know if that's important if youre looking for a sports watch. As for the Submariner, just go vintage!!!

 


Edited by Cylon - 1/11/12 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

You should be aware that the older chrono 3706 is much better looking biggrin.gif
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Also check the double chronos 3711 and 3713.

Thanks...IWC seems like a good daily beater. I'm not a fan of the hands and white date dial on the 3706, 3711 & 3713.

I really like the 371701 and with the new model arriving in April, I have a couple months to save and look for a deal with AD's to who want to get rid of old stock.

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post #9728 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post


First things first, Jstuff: That is awesome!

 

Second, my brother-in-law who works in a remote location overseas asked me to trot off to my local AD to snap some photos of some Rolexes for him. He just came back from a vacation with his wife in the Gulf and saw some Rolexes there (Yes I know, Rolexes in the Gulf? No way!), and now he wants one.

 

Now, I will preface everything with an apology for the poor picture quality (though I think there is some value in seeing watches in a less than ideal photos/conditions), and the big fat smudge on the face of the GMT II (why my wife didn't correct that, I will never know)...

 

From first to third reading from L to R we have the Explorer II, The GMT Master, and the Submariner

 

explorer II.jpggmt master.jpgsubmariner.jpg

 

Impressions:


1. The Explorer II does not have as nice a finish as the other two. You can see in the pictures, the Explorer II comes off quite dull with the matte finish. I think, though, it has the nicest, most refined shape of all three.
2. The current version of the Submariner does not look very nice. Especially in comparison to the one J stuff shared above. The lugs are poorly shaped and it makes the whole watch clunky (both visually and on the wrist). You can see in the picture how I my thumb is there helping to hold it up. .
3. The GMT has a very polished finish, and a nice overall look. The black bezel pops compared to the Explorer II matte + same colored bezel.

In the end, I think it comes down to the overall shape of the Explorer II (though I would prefer a white dial), to the shinier, more polished finish of the GMT Master, though I don't know if that's important if youre looking for a sports watch. As for the Submariner, just go vintage!!!

 


I've seen and tried on all three watches.  Interesting that you criticize the case lugs on the current Submariner, but not on the GMT.  Are you aware its basically the same case for the Sub and GMT, and the lugs are identical?  With regard to appearance with the exception of the green hand on the GMT and the different markings on the bezel, the main difference in appearance between a current production Sub and GMT are the center links of the bracelet (the GMT has polished center links, the Sub has a brushed finish for its center links).  Personally, I prefer the Sub's matte/brushed finish as it hides small surface scratches and finger prints, while the polished surface of the GMT's center links show everything.  I have Rolex watches with both bracelets and for an every day watch I like the brushed finish.  Personally, I think the lugs on the current Sub/GMT case are a bit too chunky, but over both are nice watches.

 

As for the New Explorer 2, its a nice watch.  The brushed steel bezel is traditional on an Explorer 2, every version thats ever been released had a brushed SS bezel.  I tried one on with a white dial and did not care for the dial, but I might like it more if I saw it with a black dial.  I think the case size 42 mm vs, the 40mm for the GMT and Sub, is fine.  However, think the bracelet should have been made a bit wider to look more properly proportioned to the larger case.  To me, the bracelet now seems too narrow for the Exp 2.

 

All are great watches. It merely comes down to personal preference.

 

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It's true, they are essentially the same and the AD told me as much, though I think I was so enamoured with the submariner posted by J Stuff that it probably slanted my post a bit.

 

I think the bezel on the GMT fills out and acts as a counterbalance to the size of the lugs there, whereas on the submariner (since the bezel is less busy) the lugs seem more prominent. As you say, though, they are the same size.

 

To be frank, all of them seemed ungainly to me and I wouldn't purchase any of them. I simply prefer slimmer watches. If, however, I were to buy a Rolex it would be a vintage submariner--that's all I'm saying.

 

 


Edited by Cylon - 1/12/12 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by Cylon View Post

It's true, they are essentially the same and the AD told me as much, though I think I was so enamoured with the submariner posted by J Stuff that it probably slanted my post a bit.

 

 

To be frank, all of them seemed ungainly to me and I wouldn't purchase any of them. I simply prefer slimmer watches. If, however, I were to buy a Rolex it would be a vintage submariner--that's all I'm saying.

 

 


Its hard to compare vintage with current production models.  They are often so different, and often the rarity and higher value of a vintage piece can cause a bit of bias.  I personally, prefer the lug profile of the older Subs and GMTs to the modern ones, but for a nice daily wearer I wouldn't mind I new Sub, GMT, or Ex2....and I'd save the vintage piece for weekends and special events where it won't get beaten up. 

 

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My dopplechronograph:

 

 

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Originally Posted by lbtemple View Post

My dopplechronograph:

 

 

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Great watch!  I really like the old IWC pilot watches that were offered in the 1990s far more than their current offerings.  I particularly like the bracelets that were on the Doppelchronograph and Flieguer chrono back then.  I think someday I'll try to pick one up from the 1990s early 2000ish.

 

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One of my favorite dress watches.  The Louis Cartier Tank XL.  It was part of the Collection Privee and uses a rectangular shaped Piaget movement as a base movement.

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Originally Posted by lbtemple View Post

My dopplechronograph:


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I love the watch but I can't get past the shape of the hour hand and the white day/date dial.
post #9735 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

One of my favorite dress watches.  The Louis Cartier Tank XL.  It was part of the Collection Privee and uses a rectangular shaped Piaget movement as a base movement.
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I have an early predecessor to this watch circa 1972-73. I love yours however... XL size, skeleton back case. What year is that? Definitely one of the classiest dress watches.
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