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post #9256 of 48312
The ALT-1C is pretty unbelievable. I love the designs of the Bremonts, but I just struggle to accept the movements in them. I think that they have some of the most beautiful watches around [in their range], but I guess I have come to expect more mechanically speaking. At this price you can almost get the new PO with the 8500 movement...
post #9257 of 48312
A couple of Swiss watches. I'm wearing the Baume & Mercier chrono today.

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post #9258 of 48312
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The ALT-1C is pretty unbelievable. I love the designs of the Bremonts, but I just struggle to accept the movements in them. I think that they have some of the most beautiful watches around [in their range], but I guess I have come to expect more mechanically speaking. At this price you can almost get the new PO with the 8500 movement...

I'm hesitant because I don't know much about the brand but from the small amount of research I've done, they've received great reviews. I just can't decide if I want the Bremont or a used Rolex Explorer 1. I already have 2 vintage Omegas or I would choose an Acqua Terra Mid-Size but having a difficult time find one with the blue dial. Too many choices.

Anyone have any thoughts on Bell & Ross?

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post #9259 of 48312
Never really heard much good about B&R. I don't particularly like the designs, and they aren't overly well made. I think in that price range you can find a whole lot better. I have heard that they pretty much sit on their laurels, and have not done much aside from that.

Personally, I would take the Bremont before the Rolex, but I am also not that much of a Rolex man. I tend to favor the obscure, and the Rolex designs just aren't for me. I also like new watches over used watches... but that is a personal hangup. For some reason I just feel better knowing when I am the only one who has used it, as I know how well I take care of my things. And I have done a very large amount of research on Bremont, mainly the Supermarine, and the consensus is that stylistically / finishing wise they are up to par with the hard hitters, but the lack of an in-house movement is the kicker. Personally, for me it is a tough decision. I love the fact that there cases are so hard, and are insanely difficult to scratch / dent. But I struggle with paying ~ $4300 for a slightly adjusted ETA movement, especially when for about $1500 more I could score the new Omega PO. Decisions decisions.
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Never really heard much good about B&R. I don't particularly like the designs, and they aren't overly well made. I think in that price range you can find a whole lot better. I have heard that they pretty much sit on their laurels, and have not done much aside from that.
Personally, I would take the Bremont before the Rolex, but I am also not that much of a Rolex man. I tend to favor the obscure, and the Rolex designs just aren't for me. I also like new watches over used watches... but that is a personal hangup. For some reason I just feel better knowing when I am the only one who has used it, as I know how well I take care of my things. And I have done a very large amount of research on Bremont, mainly the Supermarine, and the consensus is that stylistically / finishing wise they are up to par with the hard hitters, but the lack of an in-house movement is the kicker. Personally, for me it is a tough decision. I love the fact that there cases are so hard, and are insanely difficult to scratch / dent. But I struggle with paying ~ $4300 for a slightly adjusted ETA movement, especially when for about $1500 more I could score the new Omega PO. Decisions decisions.



While I understand the fear (too strong of a word?) of buying used, I don't think it's particularly rational when dealing with watches like it is with cars. Unlike cars, a watch that is keeping good time is likely to be sound on the inside, obviously additional complications require more inspection but all these functions can be tested. Whereas with cars underlying problems can be masked in the day to day function of the vehicle. Also, I think that a 1,500 dollar difference is not a "well for just a little bit more" situation considering it's almost 1/3 the cost of the Bremont, which puts the PO in a different category entirely.

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Never really heard much good about B&R. I don't particularly like the designs, and they aren't overly well made. I think in that price range you can find a whole lot better. I have heard that they pretty much sit on their laurels, and have not done much aside from that.
Personally, I would take the Bremont before the Rolex, but I am also not that much of a Rolex man. I tend to favor the obscure, and the Rolex designs just aren't for me. I also like new watches over used watches... but that is a personal hangup. For some reason I just feel better knowing when I am the only one who has used it, as I know how well I take care of my things. And I have done a very large amount of research on Bremont, mainly the Supermarine, and the consensus is that stylistically / finishing wise they are up to par with the hard hitters, but the lack of an in-house movement is the kicker. Personally, for me it is a tough decision. I love the fact that there cases are so hard, and are insanely difficult to scratch / dent. But I struggle with paying ~ $4300 for a slightly adjusted ETA movement, especially when for about $1500 more I could score the new Omega PO. Decisions decisions.

Agreed...I'm not a Rolex guy either but I do like the Explorer 1. Here's a picture of the new Omega Olympic London 2012 watch...love the blue dial.

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While I understand the fear (too strong of a word?) of buying used, I don't think it's particularly rational when dealing with watches like it is with cars. Unlike cars, a watch that is keeping good time is likely to be sound on the inside, obviously additional complications require more inspection but all these functions can be tested. Whereas with cars underlying problems can be masked in the day to day function of the vehicle. Also, I think that a 1,500 dollar difference is not a "well for just a little bit more" situation considering it's almost 1/3 the cost of the Bremont, which puts the PO in a different category entirely.

I completely agree, which is why I will openly admit that my fear is irrational. I used to buy things used on SF, but after a while I realized that I have regretted all of my used purchases. It is 100% a personal problem. And yes, I agree that $1,500 puts it in a completely different category, but what I was trying to say is that when you are in the $3000-5000 range with watches, upping your budget by another $1000-2000 opens up a lot of doors. It is a large increase, but I feel that you get a lot of value proportionately with that increase. In a way I feel that the $3000-5000 range is kind of the dead-zone for watches. Rational or not, I have difficulty purchasing a $4000 watch with the same movement as a watch that can be had for $200.
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That Omega is quite stunning. Personally, I would put some of the new Omega's up against a Rolex any day of the week. But that is just me. With that said, the Rolex Explorer II is pretty sexy.
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I completely agree, which is why I will openly admit that my fear is irrational. I used to buy things used on SF, but after a while I realized that I have regretted all of my used purchases. It is 100% a personal problem. And yes, I agree that $1,500 puts it in a completely different category, but what I was trying to say is that when you are in the $3000-5000 range with watches, upping your budget by another $1000-2000 opens up a lot of doors. It is a large increase, but I feel that you get a lot of value proportionately with that increase. In a way I feel that the $3000-5000 range is kind of the dead-zone for watches. Rational or not, I have difficulty purchasing a $4000 watch with the same movement as a watch that can be had for $200.
That Omega is quite stunning. Personally, I would put some of the new Omega's up against a Rolex any day of the week. But that is just me. With that said, the Rolex Explorer II is pretty sexy.


I agree that 3000-5000 is a hard price range to deal with as is 400-1000. I think a lot of the watches in these price ranges are only there because of brand reputation rather than actual merit. With that being said, Bremont does use some pretty cool technology with their case hardening, there are details on their process somewhere on WUS.

 

I can attest to the sexiness of the Explorer II, I damn near lost interest in owning any other watch for about a year after I bought mine.

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I agree that 3000-5000 is a hard price range to deal with as is 400-1000. I think a lot of the watches in these price ranges are only there because of brand reputation rather than actual merit. With that being said, Bremont does use some pretty cool technology with their case hardening, there are details on their process somewhere on WUS.

I can attest to the sexiness of the Explorer II, I damn near lost interest in owning any other watch for about a year after I bought mine.

Yeah, especially the new one is particularly gorgeous. The Explorer is the only Rolex that I would really like to own one day. The only watch that I really think is worth it in the $3000-5000 range is the Seiko Marinemaster 300m that I posted above. That is a WHOLE lot of watch for $2600, and I really don't think that any watch stacks upon to it until well into the $5000 range. The first watch that I would put head to head against it would be the Omega PO. I think that the Grand Seiko are also worth it, and they are in the <$5000 range as well.
post #9265 of 48312
reading this thread almost always makes me upset. but anyhow, i came to post this. this is the watch my wife got for me when we got engaged. i havent worn it in a long time but i pulled it out for a day about 6 weeks ago just for a change of pace, and havent taken it off since. i think i might get a blue gator strap at some point to dress it up a little.

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post #9266 of 48312
I agree, stitches, that watch deserves an awesome leather strap. Bracelets are okay, but lack soul, and that watch has soul.
post #9267 of 48312
Totally agree on the strap vs. bracelet. Straps all the way.
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I agree, stitches, that watch deserves an awesome leather strap. Bracelets are okay, but lack soul, and that watch has soul.

I completely agree. I feel that this may be a SF thing. I guess we just have an affinity for leather. If you are going to get a strap stitch, get one now. Gator straps are going to have a HUGE price increase within the next month or so, according to word on the street. I have heard at least double the price frown.gif

www.fredawatchstraps.com is a great source.

http://fredawatchstraps.com/dimalliglou.html

Some blue ones, and I can vouch for the quality of the Hirsch and Di-Modell straps!
post #9269 of 48312
thanks guys! when the funds are avaiable i will do that. or if you are offering...... smile.gif
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thanks guys! when the funds are avaiable i will do that. or if you are offering...... smile.gif

If you buy one for me, I will buy one for you. Deal?
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