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why?

I like the 1 and I like steel watches.
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Nice bracelet; more like the previous model, and with more than a hint of Nautilus about it.  The 1630 date is a bit too reminiscent of Longines and a dozen other 7750-ish chronos, and nothing else about it is really exciting me.  That fancy movement and its shiny rotor on display is something, but with the expected list price, there are a lot of other shiny things out there.

 

However, as someone who likes the current edition, I can only be delighted by your faultless observation that this should mean some good deals on the "old" model: mint used ones are in the $12-13k range I think, for a blue dialed chrono.  Take, what, 20% off that in the next year?  I might be able to risk all kinds of relationship breakdowns to get there.

Not really seeing the "Hint of Nautilus" you describe with the bracelet.  The Nautilus is a much thinner/less chunky bracelet, and has large polished central links.  I believe on the new VC bracelet, the connecting point has a bit more brushed surface than the prior model and less shiny/polished area around the Maltese Cross part.

 

 As for the 16:30/4:30 date, for years it was commonly associated with watches that either used the Zenith El Primero or F.Piguet 1185 as bases (Think Zenith Chronos, Ebel 1911 Chrono in the 1990s, Chopard St. Mortiz, AP Royal Oak chrono in 39mm and 41mm).  Often watches with a 7750 as a base have the date at 3...think IWC 3706 and 3713, Automatic Speedmasters of the 1990s early 2000s, Breitlings of the past, Tudor "Big Block"chronos etc.  Yes, more recently a few ETA powered watches used the 4:30 placement for a date.  Anyway, the placement of the date doesn't bother me as I never really liked the Grand Date on anything other than the Lange 1 or JLC.  To me Grand Dates became a "Me too" feature on too many watches in the last 10-15 years.  What does annoy me on the new model is the metal border around the date.  Its an unnecessary distraction.  

 

I wasn't a fan of the current 2nd generation Overseas, so I am curious to see the new 3rd generation model in person, although at least based on photos I don't love it.  

 

As you have a fondness for the 2nd gen Overseas, I'll keep my fingers crossed that during the next year or so you are able to find one at a palatable price...and one that may only add a small bump in your relationship road, rather than one that will cause a complete relationship breakdown. Cheers! 

 

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Mixed feeling on the new Overseas chrono here - while I appreciate the new movement and gorgeous rotor I am on the fence about what looks to me like unnecessarily busy dial with excessive markings, white background date at 4:30 with a shiny metal border.  I love how they faceted the hands and hour markers, the new watch will surely sparkle on par with AP 15400.

 

I agree with DIJr about the odd transition from the case to the bracelet, it just doesn't rhyme with the Overseas aesthetic somehow.  But of course the new quick easy-fit switch system for bracelet and straps is a very welcome feature.

 

I have mixed feelings about the new models also, but it will be interesting to see them in person when they hit showcases.  

 

The transition from the case to bracelet awkward, but I don't think the transition from case to bracelet has been all that successful on anything since their 1st gen Overseas, and those had a habit of the bracelet links getting stuck & locked up if you took the watch off and put it down the wrong way.  

 

I'm also not sure that I like the change in the bezel from the original 8 smaller Maltese cross shaped protrusions to 6 larger protrusions. 

 

It will be interesting to see what the changes, particularly the new in house chronograph movement do to the price of the Overseas chrono.

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Well as while back I asked the question here about what kind of dress watch I should get to commemorate a big career event. I got a lot of great feedback and some insightful responses. I was fortunate enough to pick it up this weekend and I'm very pleased with my decision. My dress watch half of the equation is now complete with the Basculante in steel and now this (special thanks to Dino for planting the seed).

Congrats on the new addition !!! :cheers:   Its a beauty!  Wear it in good health and you owe us some more wrist shots. ;)

 

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due to rarity or something else?

 

Yes, rarity.  The same situation exists with some vintage steel Pateks, which were produced in much smaller numbers than the same model in YG or RG. 

Personally, I'd rather spend less than 1/3 the price or less and buy a new platinum or RG L1 than spend $150K on a steel one.  

 
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I think the steel ones were meant to be service loaners.

I've heard that about some steel 1815s that were produced.  I'm not sure if that is accurate though regarding the steel L1s.  

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The new time/date Overseas apparently will be listed at 21700€.  Not sure how they hope to compete with AP at that price - you could get the 15202 for less, heck, you could get a PP 5711a for around that much.  Interested to see how they price the other models, especially the chrono and the ultra-thin, but something tells me the price tags will disappoint many.

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The more I wear it, the more I think the Rolex Ceramic Submariner No-date (ref. 114060) is just about a perfect watch. Looks (subjective, but it's no red-headed stepchild), proportions, balance, durability, bracelet (!!), comfort, and of course versatility. I'm having a hard time finding something similar.
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^ it is perfect. I sold mine a few months back and have regretted it every single day since.
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The more I wear it, the more I think the Rolex Ceramic Submariner No-date (ref. 114060) is just about a perfect watch. Looks (subjective, but it's no red-headed stepchild), proportions, balance, durability, bracelet (!!), comfort, and of course versatility. I'm having a hard time finding something similar.

Tough to beat a modern Rolex by almost any objective measure. I'm partial to the GMT BLNR, but they're all top notch.

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The more I wear it, the more I think the Rolex Ceramic Submariner No-date (ref. 114060) is just about a perfect watch. Looks (subjective, but it's no red-headed stepchild), proportions, balance, durability, bracelet (!!), comfort, and of course versatility. I'm having a hard time finding something similar.

I think it's pretty much the perfect watch. If I had to choose a one watch, the no-date Sub would be it.

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The more I wear it, the more I think the Rolex Ceramic Submariner No-date (ref. 114060) is just about a perfect watch. Looks (subjective, but it's no red-headed stepchild), proportions, balance, durability, bracelet (!!), comfort, and of course versatility. I'm having a hard time finding something similar.

I couldn't be happier with mine.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

The more I wear it, the more I think the Rolex Ceramic Submariner No-date (ref. 114060) is just about a perfect watch. Looks (subjective, but it's no red-headed stepchild), proportions, balance, durability, bracelet (!!), comfort, and of course versatility. I'm having a hard time finding something similar.

 

I have a few other modern Rolex divers, but the ref 114060 occupies a super solid place in the rotation. Love it.

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My wife misplaced her ladies DateJust over the holidays and she had dreams of a no-date Sub if we couldn't find it.  It is insured and luckily we found it in a drawer of her jewelry box.  I even asked if she checked there but she chalked it up to "baby brain".

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I still haven't worked out how women's tidy up works.

The new VS OS looks. inlove.gif
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I'm very partial to the new Lange Saxonia moon phase.

 


Will have to see how it wears at 40mm.

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And then of course there's the insane Dato perpetual tourbillon movement ... 

 

 

 

 

:drool:

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Ooh!
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What's the red thingy top left?
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