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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

 

Soon, Mr Dino will come and tell you it's a Lange 1 derivative of little inherent merit. 

Actually, I think I've called the Pano the L1's far less attractive sister. ;)

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In fact, it's pretty much an identical replica of the Monte Carlo! 

The big difference is the original had a cyclops over the date at 6, and the new one doesn't.
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Originally Posted by P. Bateman View Post

I am very seriously considering the Pano Reserve. Is GO collectible? I don't see too many used pieces. It's interesting that new models can be scored $3k under MSRP easily. Thoughts?

I'm sure you've heard the old joke -- "To make a small fortune collecting watches, start with a large fortune." Very few watches, mainly select Pateks and Rolexes, will increase in value. I own one of the very first GO Panomatic Dates in stainless steel; the movement and case numbers are both under 10. This model has long been discontinued, as the PMD never caught on with the watch-buying public to the same extent as its brother, the Panomatic Lunar. I am under no illusions that I would be able to recoup what I paid for it (just under $5K). But over ten years later, I still enjoy wearing it. So if you like the Pano Reserve, and can get a good price on it (I advise gently pre-owned), go for it.
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The Pano isn't a Lange. Move on.
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Thanks all. Sound advice here. I love the look of the dark grey dial and will keep an eye out for a used one.

The Lange is out of my price range and I am not in love with its color options.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

Not my thing, but putting that aside: the bolder something is, the less enduring and versatile, so maybe it would indeed get old.  What it reminds me of, though, is various 70s sport chronos.  I think perhaps you should look at vintage Heuers and the like, and you might find the same fun but with more cachet and less depreciation.

 

Funny you mention vintage Heuers because I was thinking of the Monaco myself, albeit the most recent tribute.  For Heritage Chrono money, in most cases slightly more, you can get the most recent Monaco tribute which from what I understand is the most similar to the original.  Of course the Monaco, Silverstone, etc are different animals and a Carrera is more along the lines of the Heritage Chrono, but the Monaco for me screams 70s as well.

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Funny you guys should have the debate. I did a Lange vs Glashutte video a while back

@P. Bateman @Dachshund @Dino944

 

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Mark XVIII...not too shabby. But any reason, should one want to scratch the IWC itch, not to go with a NOS Mark XVI? One mm smaller to boot.
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4k with an ETA clone and date window too center? Meh, not awful but not running to the store.
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Really wish Lange made the 1 in steel. 

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Really wish Lange made the 1 in steel. 

They did, but they stopped making them I believe sometime in the late 90s.  The steel ones are relatively rare and when they do show up at auctions or in the pre-owned market, they go for well into six figures.  

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Anyone here good with Omegas?

I have one in hand that I could use help assessing:














I took it to the Omega boutique in and Hutton two weeks ago and the watchmaker there opened it up to have a look. The movement is fine and it works but it needs to be re-lubricated a new seals need to be installed. The acrylic crystal is cracked and needs to be replaced. Everything else is rocksolid. They told me it's circa 1960s. Markings and all the numbers are as follows:

- Calibre: 601
- Case reference: 135012
- movement: 25026447


...... Aside from the above they told me that they cannot help with identifying or apraising. Any thoughts?
Edited by Selvedged - 1/18/16 at 10:46am
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For fans of the VC Overseas if you have not seen their website there are big changes revealed for 2016... new movements (very cool 22kt rotor and exhibition back), dials, hands, cases, bracelets, and bezels appear to have been modified, and in steel they will be equipped with a bracelet, rubber strap, gator strap and a quick change mechanism.  In addition, to the new chronograph, and standard time only models they will have an ultra thin perpetual calendar and a time only ultra thin to compete with AP's ultrathin RO both in WG (although VC will essentially be using the same base movement as AP, for them its called cal 1120 rather than 2120) I was never a fan of the present generation models, so it will be interesting to see the new ones in the metal.  

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Yeah, I saw that. Not sure I'm in love with the new aesthetic; something looks off with the transition from case to bracelet. Could be just the way they are shown on the website though. And as nice as that new movement looks, I like the overseas with a solid case back. Also not a big fan of the new date window on the chronograph.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

Yeah, I saw that. Not sure I'm in love with the new aesthetic; something looks off with the transition from case to bracelet. Could be just the way they are shown on the website though. And as nice as that new movement looks, I like the overseas with a solid case back. Also not a big fan of the new date window on the chronograph.

There are elements of the new one that I find appealing.  I've never liked a grand date on the chrono, so the standard date for me is a welcomed change (although I think in keeping with the sporty theme they should not have outlined it with a white metal), as are the uniformly sized subdials, and I always had mixed feelings about the faux link next the the bezel at 12 and 6 as it wasn't really a great tie in to the bracelet.   The exhibition backs don't bother me, as I suppose they want to show off their new in house caliber particularly on the chrono.   Still, there are elements that don't appeal to me, and like you I also found the transition from case to bracelet looking a bit odd.  

 

For those of us that were never fans of the second generation Overseas, it could potentially bring us back into the fold if its really impressive in person.  While for those who loved the 2nd generation, it could be the right time to start searching for a nice deal on one before the supply of new ones dries up.  Cheers!

 

PS...I think there are a good number of VC fans who are going to be disappointed as I've seen many posts in past months with collectors hoping for a Les Historiques collecton addition in the form of a modern (larger) revival of VC's Jorg Hysek designed 222. 

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