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I would go white as well.

Are there deals to be had on the white face Daytona?
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"Does it come in Black?" 'nuff said. wink.gif
(To bring some balance to the table.)
post #47763 of 48312
Ditto on white!
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Originally Posted by tigerpac View Post

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a new Daytona.

Thoughts on: White dial or Black dial???
 

I've owned Daytonas with black dials and white dials.  White is easier to read at a glance.  However, I just don't care for the modern Daytona with a white dial (something about the silver colored subdials on the white dial just looks too stark, and even though they use the same lum plots, I think the lum plots look better on the black).  The white dials were IMHO nicer looking when they had black subdial trim rings on the prior ref 16520 (El Primero based models) or full black subdials on the old manual winds (sometimes called Panda Dials).  I've since sold off my white dial Daytonas and only the kept black dial models.  I suppose I'm the devil's advocate since I'm the only one here who favors black.  Either way, its a great watch so you really can't go wrong.  (PS... a current model will look slightly different than the photo you borrowed, as that shows the early "Thin hand models."  In 2004/2005 they switched to the so called "Fat hand" models as seen in DDDRees and my photos)

 

 

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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

I would go white as well.

Are there deals to be had on the white face Daytona?

Not really.  Most AD's won't discount steel Rolex watches, and the few that were discounting them in the past were not discounting Daytonas.  Years ago one was lucky to pay MSRP.  AD's had wait lists 4-5 years long, and some ADs and all grays were selling them at anywhere between a 50-100% mark up over MSRP.  Long wait lists ended with the melt down of the global economy in 2008.  Around that time there were stories of some AD's selling steel Daytonas at a discount just to make some sales during a rough time (My dad picked up a new white dial ss Daytona and got a 5% discount in 2009).  However, the dealer where he bought it along with many other AD's lost their Rolex franchises in a big move (during 2010 & 2011) to consolidate and eliminate ADs who had been discounting.  That move had a strong chilling effect on Rolex ADs and their willingness to discount the steel models. 

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Wow super informative as always Dino. Thanks for that insight!
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I have only ever seen a black faced two-tone Daytona that I can remember which looked quite good.  I would prefer that to the Ever Rose face I saw over the holidays but that is 3x the price.

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Originally Posted by tigerpac View Post

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a new Daytona.

Thoughts on: White dial or Black dial???

(borrowed pic)

If you're interested in reading the subdials, then white it the best option.
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Wow super informative as always Dino. Thanks for that insight!

Glad it was helpful.  Cheers!

 

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If you're interested in reading the subdials, then white it the best option.

Not really, if one is really interested in reading the subdials at a glance one should go vintage.  The subdials were much easier to read when they were black or white rather than silver.

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Glad it was helpful.  Cheers!

Not really, if one is really interested in reading the subdials at a glance one should go vintage.  The subdials were much easier to read when they were black or white rather than silver.

OK, but of the two he asked about white is easier to read. If one is truly interested in a legible subdial then there are better options, but they won't be Rolex. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post

OK, but of the two he asked about white is easier to read. If one is truly interested in a legible subdial then there are better options, but they won't be Rolex. smile.gif

Yes, I also mentioned white is the easier to read. I was merely pointing out that the vintage ones were the easiest to read. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Yes, I also mentioned white is the easier to read. I was merely pointing out that the vintage ones were the easiest to read. Cheers!

Cheers, Dino!
post #47772 of 48312
I'm with Dino on the Daytona dial thing.

I started with the white deal but swapped out to black.

While the white dial is possibly better in photos:



I find that the black dial is the better colour for wearing:



And in my friend's hands, I find the black dial doesn't photograph too badly, either:


image credit: loevhagen

However, they're both good and I find they go with anything. Also, I've had thoughts of adding a Zenith-movement 16520 in white.
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

I would go white as well.

Are there deals to be had on the white face Daytona?

Let me know when you want one and I'll help you out

 

-S

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

I'm with Dino on the Daytona dial thing.

I started with the white deal but swapped out to black.

While the white dial is possibly better in photos:

I find that the black dial is the better colour for wearing:



And in my friend's hands, I find the black dial doesn't photograph too badly, either:

image credit: loevhagen

However, they're both good and I find they go with anything. Also, I've had thoughts of adding a Zenith-movement 16520 in white.

I greatly prefer the old Zenith based movement 16520 in white to the white 116520 Rolex movement Daytonas.  I've owned the 16520 in black and white (and only traded the white to add a black dial 16528 to my collection).  At times I wish I had kept that one, but the black was always my grail watch in grad school.  Aesthetically, I prefer the slimmer hour markers, the black and white subdial trim rings. Beyond that, although the movement doesn't have the same power reserve as the new models, it supposedly had nearly 200 modifications from the base movement El Primero, and was considered the last Rolex movement to have a significant amount of hand workmanship. I've owned 5 with this movement, and it was one of the most accurate watches I've owned, new right out of the box (not fast, not slow, just dead on accurate).

 

Here is my 16520...on and BTW great photos of the black dial on a 16520 be it yours or your friend's watch & photo. 

 

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Appreciate the insights, very helpful and thoughtful as always!

The Zenith-era dials are very great. Love the history of the movement and the way Rolex rebuilt it to purpose.

I was close to going that direction but think I'm going to end up with the current model, at least this time. You do make me take pause with the decision again though.

But, at least for the white dial, the newer version pops better to me. That combined with the movement upgrades so eloquently described by Paul Boutros below I'm heading towards new. Also love the newer Rolex bracelets.

http://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a-vintage-watch-nerds-critical-dissection-of-the-rolex-daytona-past-to-present-pt-23
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