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Thoughts on the Talking Watches episode that came out today?

I thought his collection was pretty incredible and liked have his opinion on one-watch-only people.
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You need an open-ended strap.

The only online seller I've used is de Beer. They make a decent strap that won't break the bank.

http://www.debeerwatchbands.com/open-end-crocodile-watchbands.html

Thank you!
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Thoughts on the Talking Watches episode that came out today?

I thought his collection was pretty incredible and liked have his opinion on one-watch-only people.


The tropical-dial, meters-first Red Sub 1680 was pretty awesome. But until today I had not heard of him. So I guess I'm still a n00b. Too many internet forums to read is my excuse.

 

I enjoyed the episode.

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On my regular non-English language watch forum, there are two yearly exercises that I greatly enjoy: My watch year in review and Watch plans for the new year.
So I thought maybe we could play here as well? I'll go first smile.gif

My watch year in review - 2015

Out:

This was my first grail, the Heuer Autavia 1163T "Jo Siffert". Sad to see it go, but I had another purchase that needed funding.
I have only one Autavia left, hard times wink.gif

In:

The Patek Philippe Calatrava 5196G. 

And this is what I sold my Siffert to get, a 1978 Rolex Explorer II 1655...

Still on the fence on whether to source a correct unpolished mk3 bezel and give the case a light respectful brush and polish. But so happy to have an orange hand Explorer II.
Vintage Rolex will always be my kryptonite satisfied.gif

Watch plans for the new year - 2016

Anyway, these are only dreams and fairytales so far. No new funds for watch purchases, so something has to go. When choosing the candidates, there are two criteria: Can I buy it back? Will selling it break my (watch nut) heart? This usually means no Rolex or Patek ever gets the axe. ...
There it is, for those that bothered to read it all.

How about you?

 

Sad to see the Jo Siffert go.  I really like some of the old Heuer chronographs, in particular the Autavia.  Glad to hear you still have one in the collection.  I was never a fan of the 1655 when I was younger.  

 

I got my first good watch, a Rolex GMT 16750 when I was a teenager, and the 1655 was still available.  I remember looking in catalogs and thinking what a strange looking dial, and I couldn't see the point of owning a sort of GMT looking watch that couldn't be used to tell time in a 2nd time zone.  However, over the years its quirkiness has grown on me.  So I think its a fun purchase, even if the GMT is a bit more practical by offering the ability to tell time in another time zone. I looked at a 1655 a few months ago when a reputable shop got one in, but I didn't like its condition, nor did I like the uneven coloring of the tritium markers on the dial.  Some were very tan, some were not.  For the price, it just wasn't worth it.  If I were you I would probably source a new bezel for this piece, wear it and let it get its natural patina and skip the polish of the case/bracelet, but that's just me.  

 

VC makes a beautiful watch.  However, I just can't seem to warm up to the VC Patrimony Contemporaine.  I've tried it and it just looks too bland to me when I look at it on my wrist.  If I were going to get one it would be the Patrimony Traditionelle.  I like its case and the the gray treatment around the subdial and minute track.  I was offered a very nice deal on one, but as it wasn't bonus time, I decided to pass.  

But here it was in WG.

 

 

Interesting game you guys play.  

 

Out:  None.  I don't trade or sell often.  I had an unsolicited offer on my Oysterquartz, but when I thought about selling, even at good money, I was concerned I'd regret it  (and I am the original owner with a full set).   

 

IN:

My only addition for 2015 was the Rolex BLNR.  Its been several years since I purchased more than 1 watch in a year.  I just find if I do, I don't tend to give them the wrist time they deserve and I don't really bond with them.  So usually its 1 a year for me tops.  I liked the BLNR from the moment I saw it, in person.  Interestingly, Mrs. Dino liked it a lot too even though she was never a fan of the classic Pepsi GMTs.  She thought the red and blue looked a bit too colorful and silly.  However, she thought the black and blue was more subdued and attractive.  I 'm very happy with it.  I wish the center links of the bracelet were brushed (to hide finger prints and light scratches), but its not a big deal. 

 

For 2016:

At this time in the year, I usually keep my options open, waiting to see what comes out at SIHH and Basel.  Unless of course some item I had been waiting for becomes available, or I stumble on a great deal.

 

Still a few pieces that I've pondered adding in the future, a JLC Reverso Ultrathin.  I've never owned a Reverso, and find its history and design very cool.  It is one of the sportiest dress watches that works well regardless of the occasion or attire.  

 

Much to the dislike of Mrs. Dino, I've considered picking up a Pepsi GMT Master II.  It would need to be a relatively recent one in great shape with a full set, box, papers, hang tags (because I'm crazy...and I like all that stuff, even though as my friends say, I can't wear the box and papers).   

 

Those are probably two of the more likely candidates if I were to do something in 2016.  Who knows, I might sit on the sidelines this year, wait to see what really speaks to me and eventually go with something completely different than the above ideas.  Cheers!

 

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Thoughts on the Talking Watches episode that came out today?

I thought his collection was pretty incredible and liked have his opinion on one-watch-only people.

I don't usually watch that, but I am glad I saw it.  I always wondered who William Massena was, as I had seen his posts on TZ for many years.  I agree, it was an interesting opinion regarding one watch guys.  If I had to I could pare my collection down considerably.  I'm not sure I could pare it down to one watch, as some have sentimental value or mark certain accomplishments.  Still I do think what he said was very interesting.  I also liked what he said about many companies offerings becoming more style over substance and people being more wrapped up in the money than the actual watches and what the do.   

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Geary's was just so-so tonight. They only have Tudor, Rolex and PP at the Beverly Hills store so aside from the PPs I was not that interested. Nice wine and snacks from Bouchon though.
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+1.

Plus I never liked this specific PR indicator for their Luminors.
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Nice, but for what they cost, there are many other watches I'd rather own. 
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Thoughts on the Talking Watches episode that came out today?

I thought his collection was pretty incredible and liked have his opinion on one-watch-only people.

 

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I don't usually watch that, but I am glad I saw it.  I always wondered who William Massena was, as I had seen his posts on TZ for many years.  I agree, it was an interesting opinion regarding one watch guys.  If I had to I could pare my collection down considerably.  I'm not sure I could pare it down to one watch, as some have sentimental value or mark certain accomplishments.  Still I do think what he said was very interesting.  I also liked what he said about many companies offerings becoming more style over substance and people being more wrapped up in the money than the actual watches and what the do.   

 

I was happy to see a new episode come out.  I know they do it monthly and I knew they were due, but I figured with the Holidays here they might save it.

 

It was interesting to hear his thoughts on people having just one watch considering the size of his collection not to mention how large it sounds like it used to be.  As much as I'm drawn to different watches out there and find that there are different watches that can work for different occasions or pieces in one's wardrobe, I also think that one could be happy with just one watch so long as they find the right one.  I also think that simply changing a strap or bracelet, something that in my opinion doesn't seem to be considering enough in the overall discussion of watches, can make the right watch very versatile.  I personally feel that way about my Reverso in that it is in a lot of ways the perfect "one watch", but I'm also in the honeymoon phase.  Of course I also am drawn to my fair share of other watches at the moment.  

 

I've not followed the industry long enough to say it's more style over substance or that he's wrong.  I'm sure there is more than a grain of truth to that statement.  In fact watches seem to be getting bigger and bigger to an extent while I find myself going the opposite direction.  Still style and design has to be a major part of the overall equation if you ask me.  I don't care what's inside the watch if I'm not personally attracted to it.  I may appreciate the craftsmanship of the movement, even if I only understand so well, but if the design isn't there then I won't be remotely interested.  I would add finish to this as well.  I was more than happy with my VSAs for a few years and they served me well, but the finish was that of a higher end watch.  That said the finish was in my opinion better than some higher end dive watches I've seen out there, but compared to what I consider the best there is a notable difference.  Anyway, an example of finish for me is Tudor.  I've read comments on various Tudors saying that they're not worth the price because of the movements yet when the same person provides an example of another watch that's better or better value for money it simply lacks in the design and finish details.  

 

I liked what he had to say about the smaller designers out there right now and how they're focused on making a better watch as opposed to just selling a lot of watches.  There are some brands that I won't mention that I think while improving on past watches in terms of the movement and even the finish could possibly learn from the smaller guys' example.   

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For 2016:

At this time in the year, I usually keep my options open, waiting to see what comes out at SIHH and Basel.  Unless of course some item I had been waiting for becomes available, or I stumble on a great deal.

 

Still a few pieces that I've pondered adding in the future, a JLC Reverso Ultrathin.  I've never owned a Reverso, and find its history and design very cool.  It is one of the sportiest dress watches that works well regardless of the occasion or attire.  

 

Much to the dislike of Mrs. Dino, I've considered picking up a Pepsi GMT Master II.  It would need to be a relatively recent one in great shape with a full set, box, papers, hang tags (because I'm crazy...and I like all that stuff, even though as my friends say, I can't wear the box and papers).   

 

Those are probably two of the more likely candidates if I were to do something in 2016.  Who knows, I might sit on the sidelines this year, wait to see what really speaks to me and eventually go with something completely different than the above ideas.  Cheers!

 

I think that's actually quite good advice as regards SIHH and Basel.  There always seems to be at least one winner.  Though as you say if a piece you've been waiting on becomes available or you find a deal then that may be the time to act.  

 

I like a couple of other Reversos,, one in particular at the moment, that I have considered for the future.  I just think that I'd enjoy more of a varied collection.  They don't all speak to me, but a few of the Ultrathin tributes do as well as some of the boutique editions.  

 

I find myself considering multiple styles and have changed my mind a few times over the past few months.  That's been partially down to discovering alternative models, partially down to my tastes in size changing.  So I think there's something to be said for taking one's time and thinking about a watch, especially someone like myself who may be dealing with a smaller budget than most.  And if you're new to what's out there as I am, the more research and simply looking you do the more you might find you either really love a watch or you don't like it as much as you once thought you did.  I guess what I'm saying is again that you're giving good advice and waiting to see what really speaks to you is the way to go.  I can see why people sometimes sell a watch, but I'm more inclined as you are to find one I love and keep it.  I'm guessing I'm somewhat older than the average Streetwear and Denim poster while somewhat younger than the average TWAT poster, but either way I'm at an age where if I get piece I want to make sure it's not something I'll tire of in say five, ten or even twenty years.  I want a piece that I'll find classic and be in love with for the long haul.  And not to repeat myself, but I'll say it again that the more research and simply looking you do can help you arrive at that decision as much as simple emotion can.  There are decades worth of watches that have either come and gone or are still around which can provide context to either what's being made new today or what's out there in the vintage market.  

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I appreciate the support. I've been a watch collector for 13 years and only got into the business because I was a collector. I primarily run watch companies (including being one of the first employees of MB&F and bringing them to North America) and consulting. My site is a side thing and I generally make private sales for a handful of big time collectors. I'm not a dealer trolling for business on SF. That being said, my credibility is important to me and it's not even remotely worth these hassles just to share some fun pictures on here. I'm sure the people who really care about my stuff follow me on Insta, read my site, watch my youtube reviews, or have read my pieces on Hodinkee or wherever else.

Dealing with some other bs today, so perhaps I overreacted, but in general who needs this censored.gif  

Late to the party on this, but I did happen to purchase my JLC TT1931 US edition from Steve in 2013. Flawless transaction in my book.
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Best episode in a while, and I thought his critiques were spot on really. Also nice to see someone who held on to his first watch from age 6. Really cool.

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Thanks guys. Mainly I'm just having fun with my new Leica Q. I've never really shot good watch photos before. This thing is sweet!

 

Here's a macro I got last night

 

 

The Leica Q packs a whole lot of punch in a fixed lens package. For me, it definitely justifies its use case and relative premium pricing (relative, of course, since it's several times the cost of a Fuji fixed lens mirrorless system and yet about half the cost of the latest M-P typ 240 body only, no lens).  Its EVF is incredible - truly class leading for the compact mirrorless category - and bested only by the SL that was introduced last October (which is not a compact system at all).

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Late to the party on this, but I did happen to purchase my JLC TT1931 US edition from Steve in 2013. Flawless transaction in my book.

Cool! Didn't know I knew anyone on here. Hope you're well! Thanks for the kind words.

 

As for the Talking Watches, I have known William for many years. We have very similar taste in watches. I agree with him on DeBethune, one of the most slept on brands. Everyone in the industry knows they make some of the best stuff, but their communication is shit. My dear friend from MB&F was just hired there, so hopefully she can help out. Here's my video review of my old DB28 that I sold a while ago 

 

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The Leica Q packs a whole lot of punch in a fixed lens package. For me, it definitely justifies its use case and relative premium pricing (relative, of course, since it's several times the cost of a Fuji fixed lens mirrorless system and yet about half the cost of the latest M-P typ 240 body only, no lens).  Its EVF is incredible - truly class leading for the compact mirrorless category - and bested only by the SL that was introduced last October (which is not a compact system at all).

Absolutely. I'm very impressed with it. As a street photography camera, it can't be beat. I've found myself carrying it with me nearly everywhere. The build quality makes you want to have it with you and use it all the time.

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It was interesting to hear his thoughts on people having just one watch considering the size of his collection not to mention how large it sounds like it used to be.  As much as I'm drawn to different watches out there and find that there are different watches that can work for different occasions or pieces in one's wardrobe, I also think that one could be happy with just one watch so long as they find the right one.  I also think that simply changing a strap or bracelet, something that in my opinion doesn't seem to be considering enough in the overall discussion of watches, can make the right watch very versatile. 

 

I've not followed the industry long enough to say it's more style over substance or that he's wrong.  I'm sure there is more than a grain of truth to that statement.  In fact watches seem to be getting bigger and bigger to an extent while I find myself going the opposite direction.  Still style and design has to be a major part of the overall equation if you ask me.  I don't care what's inside the watch if I'm not personally attracted to it.  I may appreciate the craftsmanship of the movement, even if I only understand so well, but if the design isn't there then I won't be remotely interested. 

 

I liked what he had to say about the smaller designers out there right now and how they're focused on making a better watch as opposed to just selling a lot of watches.  There are some brands that I won't mention that I think while improving on past watches in terms of the movement and even the finish could possibly learn from the smaller guys' example.   

 

 

I agree that if one chooses wisely, its possible to be a one watch guy.  It's more difficult to go back to one piece if you are used to having several for different purposes/events.  There are benefits to having one watch (or even 2) in that one  gets greater use of a watches that you own.  I don't have time to constantly rotate watches, so if I wear one, I usually wear it for a while. However, I know when I had 3 or 4 watches I wore them all frequently.  That becomes more of an issue as you accumulate watches.  I have a friend who fell in love with VCs and at one point had roughly 40 (including new and vintage pieces).  He ended up selling off, all but 2 and then adding a tourbillon from an independent.  He has since added one or two VC pieces, but he said he would never let his collection get as large as it was because he just couldn't use them all frequently enough.  

 

As for the strap bracelet factor, IMHO a lot of people do take that into account in terms of changing the look or feel of a watch. I see lots of posts asking opinions about strap colors, materials and stitching.  Its not really my thing.  I stick with one strap per watch, but perhaps I'm lucky in that I am not putting lots of money into multiple straps, which is like an addition for a few of my friends. 

 

I agree that the style of a watch is very important.  Its often what draws us in and encourages us to find out more about a particular model or brand.   If designs are not attractive to their target audience, they will not sell and the company may soon be out of business.  But perhaps you are reading into that too literally.  I can't speak for Mr. Massena, and obviously watch companies must move with the times, so all have changed over the 3+ decades since he started collecting. However, I think there is truth to what he says about some companies being more about style than substance.  I won't go too in depth but maybe a year ago or so a video with IWC's CEO, Mr. Kern was shown, and he was discussing how IWC was becoming a lifestyle product and how they were making movies with celebrities to create an image for some of their watches.  To me, that is style over substance.  I don't need a watch that requires a movie with celebrities, lunching and yachting on the Italian Riviera, to help me decide I want to buy one.  Actually, if anything, it helped me to decide I don't want one of their watches (at least not that model).  While I'm not really inclined to go with an independent watch company (for reasons I've already discussed in prior posts), at least with some of them their is a purity that goes with some of them wanting to make the best watch you can, even if it means its not as commercially successful for the company owner, rather than pandering to people buying a product because you made a movie showing their favorite celebrity Mr./Ms X wearing watch Y to have lunch on a yacht in an exotic location.  

 

As for waiting and seeing what becomes available at SIHH or Basel, I am a firm believer in waiting for a piece that truly speaks to you.  That't not to say our tastes or needs can't change or evolve over time.  However, as I rarely sell watches,  if I am going to purchase something, I have to see it as still a having a place in my collection years from now. 

 

Anyway, wishing you luck with whatever you next purchase may be.  :cheers:

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Any recommendations for a place to get an appraisal done in NYC? Apparently my insurance company will not accept the documents DavidSW sent.

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A humble pic contribution, picked up a dress watch and really liked the race inspired details in this Tag Carrera Date. I understand the Tag brand is not well liked in the watch world, but i'm enjoying it:

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