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Originally Posted by linstar View Post

Have a question for royal oak owners.

I purchased a jumbo a few months ago and have been very happy with it. However, there are some black on the stainless steel bracelet. They are where the clasp meets the bracelet and it seems there are some black marks on the clasp as well. Is this normal, and how would you go about cleaning it off? I have tried both hand soap, dish soap and a soft toothbrush to no avail.
Could you post a photo?
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So I wasn't losing my mind (re: thread title change).

 

Breitling :sigh:

 

 

Well hell, with such good SEO, maybe we'll have more entertainment from Lego-watch-posting trolls.

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Originally Posted by linstar View Post

Have a question for royal oak owners.

I purchased a jumbo a few months ago and have been very happy with it. However, there are some black on the stainless steel bracelet. They are where the clasp meets the bracelet and it seems there are some black marks on the clasp as well. Is this normal, and how would you go about cleaning it off? I have tried both hand soap, dish soap and a soft toothbrush to no avail.

Please posts a photos.  Mine doesn't have any black marks on the bracelet nor on the clasp.  So I'm not sure what you are describing.  I am also unsure as to whether your watch was delivered that way, or whether you accidentally hit it against something and picked up some black paint particles from something.  If its something you can't gently remove on your own, bring it or send it to your nearest AP service center. Whatever you do, don't use tooth paste or anything abrasive or your will most likely damage the finish on the areas around the clasp/bracelet.  If the watch was delivered that way rather than something you bumped it against, it should be repaired/replaced under warranty.  Below is an older photo I took showing the clasp/bracelet of my Jumbo.  

 

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For all of the new traffic being driven here LOL:

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It isn't something I bumped against. I forgot to mention that it is on the inside of bracelet not outside. It appears where you snap the closure shut and where the clasp touches the bracelet as a result. Apologies in advance for bad pictures but don't have access to a real camera at the moment.







You can see there are dis colored markings on the inside of the bracelet on two links closest to the clasp. When the watch is actually worn, that is where the clasp meets the bracelet since it folds onto itself. While the photos aren't too clear there are the same black marks on the clasp where they meet the bracelet. To be more specific, the marks are on the back of the clasp where "audemars piguet" is engraved; on the same piece of metal.
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Originally Posted by linstar View Post

It isn't something I bumped against. I forgot to mention that it is on the inside of bracelet not outside. It appears where you snap the closure shut and where the clasp touches the bracelet as a result. Apologies in advance for bad pictures but don't have access to a real camera at the moment....

You can see there are dis colored markings on the inside of the bracelet on two links closest to the clasp. 

That is normal "Wear and tear" on the inside of the bracelet, from metal on metal contact of the clasp and bracelet.  It is not rare or unusual, nor is it specif to AP.  I have it on the inside of my Rolex bracelets, and my Cartier Pasha's bracelet.  Its basically the brushed finish on the inside of the bracelet being turning into a shiny surface from the metal on metal rubbing. 

 

Below is the same type of wear and tear on my Explorer 2's bracelet.  

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For all of the new traffic being driven here LOL:

 

Here is my contribution. Doesn't get the use it deserves but when the occasion warrants... 

 

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So I don't recall how it started, but a couple of years back I started looking at "higher end" watches.  I think it was the Black Bay or the Ranger, the latter of which is still very high on my wish list, that caught my eye.  I'd previously worn Victorinox Swiss Army Mavericks (the VSA dive watch) which I'd scored for $90-$125 each on eBay and promptly replaced the rubber straps with Natos.  I never thought I'd want another watch as I liked the look and feel of the watches and I still think they are an incredible value even to this day.  Well this year I've really been reading up on watches and seeing what brands and models are out there.  Indeed some of you might remember my persistent questions on various models or makes.  My list of the aforementioned Tudors quickly grew adding the Omega Seamasters with the fauxtina as well as the Speedmaster '57 with fauxtina.  Then I kept looking at varous Nomos models.  This continued and I really started looking at Jaeger-Lecoultres in the past couple of months. 

 

I'm a big fan of the tribute watches that are out there right now.  I've mentioned what Omega is doing along with JLC and there are plenty of other brands as well.  I like the look of these inspired watches compared to the look of the more modern designs of today.  For example the current Rolex Sub or Explorer I are too "shiny" for me and I prefer the vintage versions.  However I've also looked into the vintage watch craze and the beat up watches generally don't do it for me along with the pricing in a lot of cases for said condition watches being close if not more than the price of a new version.  So for me the tribute watches are right up my alley.  I like the look, but also like that they are in "new" condition.  

 

So a month or so back I started saving in earnest for a new watch.  I'd narrowed down the list to something more realistic with my budget in terms of the number of watches and decided that I simply had too long a list as it was.  So I began searching a bit and finally started using Watchrecon regularly.  I came across a watch I really loved and that was on my list.  I distinctly remembered the advice that many of you gave which was "buy the seller" and so I inquired.  The seller was out of this World compared to an inquiry I'd made on a different watch from a different seller just weeks before.  He even agreed to meet in person after sending me detailed pictures and providing what I would say was a very accurate description of the watch and it's condition.  We settled on a price essentially pending me meeting him in person.  Well a day later he had a seriously interested buyer and wanted to make sure we were still going to meet.  In the meantime I wrestled with deciding which version of the watch I wanted.  I told him to sell it to the other buyer.  A day later I realized that I had made a mistake and gone against my gut.  The watch was spoken for with a downpayment though.  I was less than thrilled with myself as I thought the watch would now be hard to track down again.  

 

A few days ago I did search on eBay and the watch came up again.  It had some watchers and the auction was due to end in two days.  So I made an offer and it was accepted.  I have the money for it, but wanted to make myself save.  That said when you see it is the time to get it and I was right in doing so.  Long story shorter now, I picked it up today:

 

 

You'll have to excuse the poor picture and trust me that it looks stunning person.  Now that I've made a purchase I'll see you all in two years.  :) 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
 

That is normal "Wear and tear" on the inside of the bracelet, from metal on metal contact of the clasp and bracelet.  It is not rare or unusual, nor is it specif to AP.  I have it on the inside of my Rolex bracelets, and my Cartier Pasha's bracelet.  Its basically the brushed finish on the inside of the bracelet being turning into a shiny surface from the metal on metal rubbing. 

 

Below is the same type of wear and tear on my Explorer 2's bracelet.  

 

Agreed. My standard RO has exactly the same wear and tear on the bracelet - nothing to worry about.

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lol. The wear pictures on the Rolex and AP made me check my 25+ YO TAG Heuer. I had never noticed it before, but the back of the clasp hasn't just scratched the links - it has worn a deep groove! In another 25 or more years, it might even wear through.
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Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post

So I don't recall how it started, but a couple of years back I started looking at "higher end" watches.   Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I think it was the Black Bay or the Ranger, the latter of which is still very high on my wish list, that caught my eye.  I'd previously worn Victorinox Swiss Army Mavericks (the VSA dive watch) which I'd scored for $90-$125 each on eBay and promptly replaced the rubber straps with Natos.  I never thought I'd want another watch as I liked the look and feel of the watches and I still think they are an incredible value even to this day.  Well this year I've really been reading up on watches and seeing what brands and models are out there.  Indeed some of you might remember my persistent questions on various models or makes.  My list of the aforementioned Tudors quickly grew adding the Omega Seamasters with the fauxtina as well as the Speedmaster '57 with fauxtina.  Then I kept looking at varous Nomos models.  This continued and I really started looking at Jaeger-Lecoultres in the past couple of months. 

I'm a big fan of the tribute watches that are out there right now.  I've mentioned what Omega is doing along with JLC and there are plenty of other brands as well.  I like the look of these inspired watches compared to the look of the more modern designs of today.  For example the current Rolex Sub or Explorer I are too "shiny" for me and I prefer the vintage versions.  However I've also looked into the vintage watch craze and the beat up watches generally don't do it for me along with the pricing in a lot of cases for said condition watches being close if not more than the price of a new version.  So for me the tribute watches are right up my alley.  I like the look, but also like that they are in "new" condition.  

So a month or so back I started saving in earnest for a new watch.  I'd narrowed down the list to something more realistic with my budget in terms of the number of watches and decided that I simply had too long a list as it was.  So I began searching a bit and finally started using Watchrecon regularly.  I came across a watch I really loved and that was on my list.  I distinctly remembered the advice that many of you gave which was "buy the seller" and so I inquired.  The seller was out of this World compared to an inquiry I'd made on a different watch from a different seller just weeks before.  He even agreed to meet in person after sending me detailed pictures and providing what I would say was a very accurate description of the watch and it's condition.  We settled on a price essentially pending me meeting him in person.  Well a day later he had a seriously interested buyer and wanted to make sure we were still going to meet.  In the meantime I wrestled with deciding which version of the watch I wanted.  I told him to sell it to the other buyer.  A day later I realized that I had made a mistake and gone against my gut.  The watch was spoken for with a downpayment though.  I was less than thrilled with myself as I thought the watch would now be hard to track down again.  

A few days ago I did search on eBay and the watch came up again.  It had some watchers and the auction was due to end in two days.  So I made an offer and it was accepted.  I have the money for it, but wanted to make myself save.  That said when you see it is the time to get it and I was right in doing so.  Long story shorter now, I picked it up today:



You'll have to excuse the poor picture and trust me that it looks stunning person.  Now that I've made a purchase I'll see you all in two years.  smile.gif  

Congrats on your Reverso.

Brilliant tease....now let's see some more pics, and obviously ... the front side!

It's always great to catch the one that (almost) got away.
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Thanks. I never noticed the marks until recently and figured it was from the metal against metal wear. Just wanted to double check to see if it was normal
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Rolex Oysterdate, ref 6694. Made around 1970, so it's roughly as old as I am.
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Congrats on your Reverso.

Brilliant tease....now let's see some more pics, and obviously ... the front side!

It's always great to catch the one that (almost) got away.

 

Thanks!  I absolutely love it.  Here is the other side:

 

 

Again, a poor picture, but you can at least see the reference it is now.  :)

 

Really a great looking piece if I do say so myself.  I'll never change the strap and I love the brown as it can worn more casually.  The "fauxtina" doesn't look faux to me and looks quite rich.  As some of you may remember, I'm not used to a smaller watch like this as my VSAs were all 44mm, but I am used to this already.  I've read that many consider the Reverso a dressier watch, though I consider it a sport watch as well and I think it will go great with my wardrobe as I don't have to get too dressy and have some more "heritage" styled pieces (a LOT of Cabourn for example).  

 

Also, I'd like to take a moment and thank everyone for all their input on the Reverso as well as for answering my questions when I have them.  I'm still learning, but I feel like I've learned so much in the past month or two.  As regards the Reverso, I passed on this a couple of weeks back as I had a quick change of heart and though I preferred the sword hands on the standard 1931 tribute, but I quickly changed my mind back to my gut take which was indeed this syringe hand.  Glad I did and luck I found one.  Crazy thing though, ANOTHER ONE came up just on Tuesday.  Thought about grabbing that one as well considering the limited edition nature of this watch, but decided my money would be better spent on something different.  

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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

lol. The wear pictures on the Rolex and AP made me check my 25+ YO TAG Heuer. I had never noticed it before, but the back of the clasp hasn't just scratched the links - it has worn a deep groove! In another 25 or more years, it might even wear through.

I have seen that happen on a few older steel bracelets that were daily wearers for very long periods.  However, its more common to see the groove you speak of on old gold bracelet links.  The Explorer 2 that I posted above is from 2001, was a daily wearer for many years, and its probably my nicest watch that occasionally sees a bit of rougher treatment, and there is still no sign of a groove starting on its bracelet links. 

 

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Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post
 

 

Thanks!  I absolutely love it.  Here is the other side:

 

 

Congrats on a making a great choice!  The Reverso are definitely my favorite JLC !!!  Although, in the States its commonly thought of as a dress watch, its origins are as a sports watch and its versatile enough to truly be both a dress watch and sports watch.  I'm sure this Reverso will bring you many years of enjoyment!  Cheers!:cheers: 

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