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I think just the opposite - that's no beater!!!!

One man's beater, another's grail.
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Originally Posted by CBrown85 View Post

Much-hyped, maybe... but look at this thing.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-new-tudor-heritage-black-bay-black-reference-79220n-by-john-mayer

I always told myself I'd never spend over 1000 CDN for a watch... but look at this thing.

What's the general feeling in here on the 2824 movement under the hood of this? I'm assuming it's not even in the same ballpark as the other ETAs that get passed around, with Rolex adding their own unique touches to it... all the same, if the market and the owner assign value to this watch, than value is what it has. A 2824 should be relatively inexpensive to repair and service when the time comes, anyhow. Still, it would make an interesting discussion between this and the many-thousand-dollar cheaper Squale (or equivalent sub clone)...


An attractive piece but the unnecessary thickness and lack of an even 2-day power reserve sorta take away from the overall presentation for me.
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Originally Posted by Dachshund View Post

Get the Lange.

(Did anyone else just hear that?)

Yes, I hear you happy.gif
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Originally Posted by jhcam8 View Post

One man's beater, another's grail.

It was a Grail beater, so best of both worlds biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Hammer, if you really dig that Calatrava style, would you also consider a 5196J?

Smooth bezel / sticks / dauphine hands. Not as vintage-looking, and somewhat larger, but still a pure / classic dress piece with sub-seconds.

Just an idea.

If some one is going for a manual wind Calatrava, I really like the design of the 5196.  Its clean, classic, and it has lugs that are integrated into the case rather than the thin welded on lugs of the 3919.   I'm not sure one can truly say its a less vintage looking model (maybe a cleaner looking model), as my father's uncle had one of the predecessors to the 5196J, in the 1940s or 50's.  The only thing about the newer more modern sized models, is its rather apparent that they are still using cal 215 which was really designed for a smaller case.  Still a great suggestion! 

 

 

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Hey guys, it's been awhile. Meet my newest acquisition.

 

Congrats!   That's a beauty!!!

 

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Wow!  Congratulations.  I always found something a little too clean about the Lange 1, but that it looked better to me with the black ("Darth") version.  But the blue is positively magical.  Except that is makes it look more like a GO Pano.  Dino might die from the irony. :)

 

Beautiful, really, I am chewing my hand with envy!

Nah...don't really find it more GO-ish with a blue dial so I'm ok with it.  ;)  I generally prefer a silver dial on Lange's, but the blue on this is quite stunning!  

 

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Am I the only one who prefers the GO Pano aesthetically?  A lot of it comes down to the date window, I like the borderless date window, the color matched date and the location of the window on the GO.  I also prefer the moon phase appearance of the GO, though I like power reserve aesthetic of the Lange a bit more.  No doubt the Lange is a superior piece of horology, but for the money I'd probably be happier with a GO with an 1815 (though neither is likely at the moment).

There are others who like the Panos, and they certainly do represent a good value (especially in steel).  I just don't love it's "Almost a Lange but its not," looks.  The Lange 1 was original when it came onto the scene about 25 years ago.  No one had seen anything like it.  Some may view the Pano is an improvement in design, but I prefer the Lange's design.  Being the original and at a higher level of finish has a value to me.  I couldn't own a Pano as I would always feel that I was wearing a Lange impersonator.  

 

However, if you love the Pano, and it would put a smile on your face , then when the time comes you should go for it!  Cheers!

 

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Keith thanks for the recommendation and that's definitely a classic Calatrava but for whatever reason it has never spoken to me. I'm a sucker for roman or arabic numerals over indices and just as well because it seems even preowned versions are ~$15k which is well above my comfort zone. $10 I can swing financially if I can mentally come to grips with it, $15 would be too much financially and way too much mentally!

Speaking of which,all this Lange talk is really making the 1815 look damn tempting...

The basic design of the model that Keith suggested is generally what I think of when I hear Calatrava as its basic design is one of the earlier ones in the Calatrava line up.  The 3919 came about in the mid 80's.  I read some where that an advertising proposal for Patek showing a design like the 3919 inspired Patek to actually make the 3919.   Anyway, the basic movement is the same, its the subjective stuff that is different on those two.

 

I think you are finding the 3919 in a lower price range, because the market for mens' watches under 35mm is rather weak.  The 3919 is 33.45 mm in diameter.   Personally, I think even being quite thin, at your height the watch might come off as looking too small, especially on a tall, younger guy.  If your style of dress is also more vintage, then maybe it will work for you and is the look you are going for.  If a big reason for considering the 3919 is its price range, I would say, maybe now isn't the time to get a Patek.  Buy one that you truly love, that is a great fit for you now and for decades to come, and that might mean waiting until there is another model that is in your budget or until your budget is a bit larger.  Personally, I think you should hunt for something 35mm or larger.   Wishing lots of luck and fun shopping for the right watch!

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If some one is going for a manual wind Calatrava, I really like the design of the 5196.  Its clean, classic, and it has lugs that are integrated into the case rather than the thin welded on lugs of the 3919.   I'm not sure one can truly say its a less vintage looking model (maybe a cleaner looking model), as my father's uncle had one of the predecessors to the 5196J, in the 1940s or 50's.  The only thing about the newer more modern sized models, is its rather apparent that they are still using cal 215 which was really designed for a smaller case.  Still a great suggestion! 

The basic design of the model that Keith suggested is generally what I think of when I hear Calatrava as its basic design is one of the earlier ones in the Calatrava line up.  The 3919 came about in theqI think you are finding the 3919 in a lower price range, because the market for mens' watches under 35mm is rather weak.  The 3919 is 33.45 mm in diameter.   Personally, I think even being quite thin, at your height the watch might come off as looking too small, especially on a tall, younger guy.  If your style of dress is also more vintage, then maybe it will work for you and is the look you are going for.  If a big reason for considering the 3919 is its price range, I would say, maybe now isn't the time to get a Patek.  Buy one that you truly love, that is a great fit for you now and for decades to come, and that might mean waiting until there is another model that is in your budget or until your budget is a bit larger.  Personally, I think you should hunt for something 35mm or larger.   Wishing lots of luck and fun shopping for the right watch!

Sage advice as always, frankly price isn't an issue with the 5196j. Even if it were less than the 3919 I wouldn't be interested, it just doesn't speak to me. While I've tried on the 3919 and truly loved it and thought the size was at the bottom of my range but still doable the suggestions of the 1815 in 36mm is one I'm very seriously considering. I've looked around and there seem to be a few decent examples at the top end of my stretch budget. The 5119 is 36mm and would be an ideal match however a nice example is around ~16k from what I've seen so in that sense price is a barrier and you may be right that a Patek isn't in the cards right now.... But maybe a Lange is, who knows.
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Good evening. That's my first post here!

Tangente 38mm, hand wound with date and glass bottom:

 

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Welcome to the thread.

Dunhill lighter?
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Welcome to the thread.

Dunhill lighter?


It's an old Braun lighter. This one actually is from 1976, designed by D.Rams.

Feel free to ask me if you want to know more.

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Oh, that's cool.

Maybe a tangent for another day biggrin.gif
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Sage advice as always, frankly price isn't an issue with the 5196j. Even if it were less than the 3919 I wouldn't be interested, it just doesn't speak to me. While I've tried on the 3919 and truly loved it and thought the size was at the bottom of my range but still doable the suggestions of the 1815 in 36mm is one I'm very seriously considering. I've looked around and there seem to be a few decent examples at the top end of my stretch budget. The 5119 is 36mm and would be an ideal match however a nice example is around ~16k from what I've seen so in that sense price is a barrier and you may be right that a Patek isn't in the cards right now.... But maybe a Lange is, who knows.

Perhaps I wasn't clear.  Although, I like Keith's suggestion of the 5196, I wasn't suggesting that the reason you weren't considering it, was its price.  As you don't love its aesthetics, the price of the 5196 is irrelevant.  

 

I was merely questioning, whether the reason you were considering the 3919 was its from Patek and it falls into your price range, and suggesting that you not be sold on a watch largely based on price if other elements (possibly size) aren't right for you.  In some situations a person can go smaller than 36.  However, a round watch under 35 mm (maybe 34.5 in a stretch) especially on tall or big guys, can look too small, almost like something borrowed from a girlfriend/wife.

 

So if you truly want a Patek and the 5119 is your ideal, perhaps its best to wait until its in a price range that makes you comfortable.  Hopefully, there will be many other fantastic events to commemorate with a great watches.  Perhaps your current accomplishment  does not need to be commemorated with a Patek, and that can be done at a later date when you can get the model you truly desire.  Cheers!

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Good evening. That's my first post here!

Tangente 38mm, hand wound with date and glass bottom:

 

 

Nice montage. We went through a phase of uploading photos of watches with fountain pens, pocket knives, etc. Always nice to see a bit of context.

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Am I the only one who prefers the GO Pano aesthetically?  A lot of it comes down to the date window, I like the borderless date window, the color matched date and the location of the window on the GO.  I also prefer the moon phase appearance of the GO, though I like power reserve aesthetic of the Lange a bit more.  No doubt the Lange is a superior piece of horology, but for the money I'd probably be happier with a GO with an 1815 (though neither is likely at the moment).


Perhaps a side by side comparison? the 2015 GO pano.

 

 

It's indeed a striking resemblance. The case shape, lugs, the crown, the brushed sides. But IMHO, I still think the boarder of the date window makes the whole dial balance, it compliments well with the silver hands. Can you imagine it w/o the boarder on the lange 1? It will look like a blank/empty area at the 1 o'clock; even worst if the date matched the colour of the dial.

 

Day 3 with the Lange 1. 

I remember posting about me trying on a black "darth" lange 1 and saying that the colour looks too flat. Of course the guilloche does help with the depth but its still black. How many shades of black can it achieve? But the blue is indeed magical like mimo said. The different shades of blue at different angle, different effect on the guilloche and non-guilloche part of the dial. It's really similar to the blue on the Patek Nautilus or the AP 15400 blue. You get different shades of blue at different angles/lighting. 

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Spotted shining shoes at Leffot - a 16610:

 

 

Of course it was also the Edward Green Trunk Show, with a few lovely shoes (and not a few kick a** boots) on display:

 

  

 

This particular version of the Galway is Edward Green's first salvo at making the boot in cordovan:

 

 

Back to regular programming - have a rocking weekend, everyone!

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Perhaps a side by side comparison? the 2015 GO pano.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

It's indeed a striking resemblance. The case shape, lugs, the crown, the brushed sides. But IMHO, I still think the boarder of the date window makes the whole dial balance, it compliments well with the silver hands. Can you imagine it w/o the boarder on the lange 1? It will look like a blank/empty area at the 1 o'clock; even worst if the date matched the colour of the dial.

 

Day 3 with the Lange 1. 

I remember posting about me trying on a black "darth" lange 1 and saying that the colour looks too flat. Of course the guilloche does help with the depth but its still black. How many shades of black can it achieve? But the blue is indeed magical like mimo said. The different shades of blue at different angle, different effect on the guilloche and non-guilloche part of the dial. It's really similar to the blue on the Patek Nautilus or the AP 15400 blue. You get different shades of blue at different angles/lighting. 

 

Wow! I've always thought both watches bear a significant ressemblance, but seeing them side-by-side is a revealing exercise! I can't help but think about all the people that are against hommage watches (ex.: Steinhart to Rolex, some Hamilton Jazzmaster to IWC, etc.) because of the lack of originality / own identity and wonder how they feel about the Lange vs. GO. Is their opinion the same when we up the price tag?

 

That being said, I think both watches are outstanding, and while I do prefer ALS globally (as a brand), I think in this case, my heart goes to the GO. This is not me saying I don't love your Lange, @Novelty77, because I still could totally sell my left kidney for it!

 

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Of course it was also the Edward Green Trunk Show, with a few lovely shoes (and not a few kick a** boots) on display:

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

I do love to see well-worn and well-taken care of footwear!

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