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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 3117post #46741 of 4831210/13/15 at 4:24ampost #46742 of 4831210/13/15 at 8:50ampost #46743 of 4831210/13/15 at 9:56am
Was doing my nightly round of research and browsing last night and was looking at the reverso 1931 "re-issue" if you will and noticed it came in rouge as well. Anyone know if they did the 1931 style in any other colors? I liked the rouge actually, but just curious if they did anything else.
Really feel as though I'm learning something about watches, manufacturers, classic timepieces, etc. On the other hand understanding movements to an extent and to a greater extent getting to know the various reference numbers and model changes over the years... One should be able to obtain a degree in the history of timepieces. There certainly is enough material out there.
Quote:Originally Posted by Journeyman
Absolutely. I tend to like genuine vintage, rather than re-edition in the style of vintage, watches but I don't understand the obsession with patina and so on that some people have. If I buy an older watch, I want it to be in as near to NOS condition as possible so that, as you say, it can age with me.
Yes, entirely agree. Rolex have been making the Submariner continuously, in virtually the same form, for 60 years. Apart from Rolex enthusiasts, the vast majority of people would have great trouble telling a 1950s Submariner from a 2005 Submariner, so there's much greater availability. However, Omega only made classic, vintage ref. 165.024 and 166.024 SM300s for about eight years from the early to the late 1960s, so there are far, far fewer vintage SM300s than there are Submariner 5513s.
1st-gen, pre-moon Speedmasters with the original Calibre 361 movement from the late 1950s and early 1960s can fetch crazy prices.
Great point on the patina. I too would want it too look at original as possible were I looking at a vintage watch. Still I like the coloring of the patina and I think that's why I like some of these... "influenced and newer" versions of classic watches as you get the current movements and a clean case, crystal, etc with that vintage look. I guess just like that combination and would then just want it to age with me, but rather slowly. I suppose that sounds rather contradictory, but just how I would want it. Hopefully it's just a phase that some of these manufacturers are going through to meet demand as that would then hopefully mean they'd produce different styles and there'd be less production or they'd stop it altogether.
I've seen that. The scary thing is that I'd be really worried about even considering one that wasn't from an established seller as I keep seeing articles or comments about fakes. I could "bring a loupe" and wouldn't necessarily spot a fake. I might, but wouldn't know exactly what to look at.Quote:Originally Posted by mimo
If it were, I think it would be better off blue. And not copying the infamous black/grey NATO from the "Bond" Sub. But yeah, scruffy Subs are $4-5k, versus this limited edition that is considerably more. And of course, the former will be worth the same in one year or ten, if you change your mind. Sure, scruffy versus new is a personal decision, but one could always stick the old Sub on a $20 nylon NATO as well...see above!
I can't see blue with the black version of the Seamaster. I could see that light tan/khaki version though. Copy or not though, the black/grey works great with the watch. It's what I did with my VSA in black and looked great despite my preferring the other colors of the watch I had. It's nothing new or adventurous of course, but it works. The strap had better quite nice though as they sell for something like $150 new. Of course it does come with the bracelet, brushed with the Spectre edition, which is generally missed as all the photos are with the NATO.
That's why I like NATOs. You can put a nice watch on them they still look great without the bracelet.Quote:Originally Posted by PartagasIV
I wanted to love it badly, tried it on next to the MUT moon (both steel), and slept on it. The MUT sang enough to me that I bought it instead, and the Geophysic was snapped up instantly by someone else. It's an attractive watch--but it's not a 'complete' watch, IMO. This April:
Thanks for sharing the picture. Looks just as nice as the other online photos I've seen.Quote:Originally Posted by Keith T
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)QFT....and I enjoyed reading your thoughts.
I haven't tried on the Spectre edition, or even seen one in the case yet, but the regular version didn't really grab me personally.
The standard Seamaster 300 in the blue, titanium, is the one grabbing me less. I like to match up my current divers with what I'm wearing and I have them with blue, red, orange, black and green bezels. So if I see one I like I'm looking for other colors. The blue grabbed me at first, but over time it hasn't. If I went the blue route I'd be looking at the Black Bay Blue. The catch is I'd have to see the Black Bay in person and I would think it doesn't look like has the finish of the Seamaster 300.Quote:
Yeah, I can see where someone would take that view. As I said, it's "plain" for that price. Still it really speaks to me. Something about it... I also like, as Ben Clymer noted on the Hodinkee write up on it, that it's a classic watch that serves a lot of purposes in terms of looks.Quote:Originally Posted by ShawnBC
Nice to know I'm not the only one enjoying the VSA Maverick! This was my first "expensive" watch, before I got dragged into the mechanical watches rabbit hole. I haven't been switching between bezel colors though, only the black Maverick GS (date at 6) for me though! What models do you own?
Not a watch often discussed, unfortunately!
I won't muddle this thread and you'll see my reply in the Poor Man's thread. All I'll say here is that I'm ready to jump into the rabbit hole with both feet. Just need to take my time and save while really thinking long and hard about the pieces I'm looking at. The former shouldn't be too difficult as I'm going about it the right way and Nigel Cabourn's AW Collection isn't speaking to me too much. The latter I'm quite good at, but it takes time. As I noted above in this post, I'm learning so much about watches right now.
Again, I'm really just absorbing a lot, but I can tell you that I know that is a helluva collection. The FP Journe on the left I actually even know about which means I'm learning something. Very nice and worth a fortune.
Very interested in that green Patek. Looks somewhat "British Racing Green" (the color of my car) which a racing looking strap. It's a "racing" watch or something else? That sub dial is interesing.post #46744 of 4831210/13/15 at 11:28am
Historic sights for the ladies on the trip, cars related places for the guys. We weren't picking up any cars, but we did go to the Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes museums (and the nice restaurants at BMW and Porsche). Had hoped to get into a Porsche Factory tour , but they only had a German speaking tour available and they were going to let us go on it until they realized we don't speak German. You have to be able to understand the safety warnings they give, or you can't go on the tour. Oh well, gives us a reason to go back at some point. Cheers!Quote:Originally Posted by PartagasIV
BTW, if you happen to fly Lufthansa business/first into Frankfurt and have a 4-6 hour layover (I just did) there's a special deal you can do with the airport Avis. 99 Euro gets 3 hours in a Porsche; I got a brand new 911 4S cabrio with PDK & Sport Chrono. Highly worth doing.
Cool idea. Flew from Stuttgart to Frankfurt on the way home and barely caught our connecting flight so no time to do the driving thing. Sounds like a fun day. Briefly looked into renting a Porsche for the week, but I could get a new watch for what that costs.Quote:
The Geophysic is nice but is nice, but something about it just falls short for me. The JLCs that truly speak to me are Reversos.
Actually, I didn't take any food & watch photos. Most photos I took were separate so the bulk of the food ones will go on Instagram. However here is kind of a six degrees of watch and food separation photo. Our hotel in Stuttgart had a hybrid Porsche Cayenne and a Porsche Charging Station. It was the first time I've seen a hotel with a hybrid Porsche and charging station. The photo of the petit fours was taken at Porsche's restaurant Christophorus on the top level of their museum. Its largely a steakhouse - every table has a Porsche model on it, the menus are covered in leather from the factories unused leather pieces, and you can see some of the museum cars from the tables in the restaurant. Overall, a very nice meal that was enjoyed by everyone at our table.
Hey, nice to see you around these parts again! Hope all is well !post #46745 of 4831210/13/15 at 12:07pmpost #46746 of 4831210/13/15 at 2:17pm
Well since you mentioned it....below are some desserts we sampled in Munich...a few ended up becoming quick breakfasts at the Hotel. The Explorer II made another trip back to Europe. Last time it was there was back in 2001.post #46747 of 4831210/13/15 at 2:26pmpost #46748 of 4831210/13/15 at 2:26pmpost #46749 of 4831210/13/15 at 4:01pm^ I wear my Sub through the metal detectors without any problems. On my last trip though, my Alden chukkas triggered the detector. The second time it happened I vaguely recalled something about there being a steel shank in the solepost #46750 of 4831210/13/15 at 7:01pmQuote:
I usually take my watch off and put it in a travel case in my carry on, and my wife goes through the metal detector ahead of me so there is someone who can keep an on on my bag and grab it if I get detained briefly when going through the metal detector or if they are slow getting people through them. I would not wear my more expensive watches through the metal detector just to be on the safe side (I never said I wasn't a bit crazy).
This time I forgot my travel case so I just tried wearing the watch through the body scanner. They stopped me, groped my wrist, and then lifted my sleeve to verify it was a watch.post #46751 of 4831210/13/15 at 7:03pmpost #46752 of 4831210/13/15 at 8:50pmQuote:
Lucky you. I'm of German heritage, but the Australian version of German desserts leave a lot to be desired for the most part.
I'll be traveling to the US again next year. Not sure yet if I'll be taking my SubC on its first trip.post #46753 of 4831210/14/15 at 2:18amJust heard JLC lost my watch at service. Local AD received something completely different with my service reference # and my watch can't be found. Yes, I already mailed JLC customer service calling them diplomatically a bunch of f***ing amateurs.
Nice desserts, btw, I guess I'll have to do a Rolex lunch and dessert to cool down.post #46754 of 4831210/14/15 at 2:24amQuote:Originally Posted by kimmo
Just heard JLC lost my watch at service. Local AD received something completely different with my service reference # and my watch can't be found. Yes, I already mailed JLC customer service calling them diplomatically a bunch of f***ing amateurs.
Nice desserts, btw, I guess I'll have to do a Rolex lunch and dessert to cool down.
I don't even know what to say to this. Holy shit.post #46755 of 4831210/14/15 at 2:46amThe real test is how they recover from this f*** up and keep you happy. In a situation like this a happy customer tells as many people how well he/she was looked after as an unhappy one does telling everyone what a bunch of idiots X company is. They have much to loose or gain.
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