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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I'm not a fan of Offshores.  So who wears them (or who wears a Patek, VC, JLC, Piaget, Rolex or any other brand) is irrelevant to me.  Unless Lebron, Usher, Brad Pitt, etc are going to foot the bill for my next watch purchase, why should anything they do or wear influence me?   Purchasing something because some actor, musician, or athlete has it, is something people should have out grown while in grade school.    

Amen
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Just to agree with Dino; you will not be seeing that same Rolex Oyster recouping with the Cellini. And I think strike two is the fact that it's a precious metal. 

I agree that I don't want a dress only watch either. I want something a little versatile as well. I also want something gold and at the top of my list at the moment is the Cartier - Louis Cartier Tank. I'm not sure how well that straddles the casual/dress line, yet, though. 

Cartier Tank MC in gold looks nice - if you feel flush.
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 I don't see any of the Cellini pieces have higher resale value than any other good watch brand.

A friend who worked at a former AD said they hated getting in Cellinis because those were models they couldn't give away. Without much demand for new Cellinis...there isn't going to be a strong demand or high resale on a used one.  Although, that may work to your advantage when buying one, and maybe you will be able to get a good discount when purchasing it.  Anyway, wishing you luck with whatever you decide. 

I appreciate the insight from you two. As the model is new and there isn't an aftermarket yet, it's only speculation about the trade/resale value at this point. I must say that comparing the old and new models is probably not on. The new one looks modern, has Oyster DNA, and a new movement to boot. I agree that the old one was a dog and clearly the Cellini is not a Sub or Daytona. I'm hoping that it'd be an easy trade-in down the road, but who knows? The price point is attractive compared to other gold Rolex models and that may influence the market. Anyway, thanks for your comments, gents.
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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post
 

 

The Tangente 33 and Tangente 38 use the same Alpha movement.  In essence they are shoving a little movement in a big case but a whole 5mm difference.  In all honesty I thought I was going to find out the exact size of the Montblanc movement people bitch about then compare it to the 40 mm case size.  I then realized their movement is probabaly 30mm as their case looks to have at least 5mm on each size of the movement from the backside view.  

 

Maybe harsh on my part to compare Nomos to Montblanc but the Tangente 38 looks off compared to the Tangente 33 or the Minimatik Belli tried to throw in which is smaller and uses a different movement.


Try to throw in?!? It's an example of one of their watches where it isn't a problem, they make many models 35 to 36mm where the placement looks great. And did you ignore my initial post? Clearly some of their watches are too big, but the design of the movement with the date works for me IMO, and it also works on the Welzeit where it mirrors the cutout for the hometime. So you have several models where the size works, some where it's a fairly clever design with the date wheel, and then others where it's still aesthetically pleasing despite the watch being 40mm. You were the one who generalize the entire lineup in your first post, I was more specific, and Belli pointed out their movement design with the date wheel and models where the subseconds looks great (which they have several FWIW). As I said before, I don't like all their models, there are some misses aesthetically for me, but they really have several designs that look like they could really stand up well over time.


Edited by DLJr - 10/1/15 at 12:52pm
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@DLJr -  I did not see that post but went back and reread it.  So we agree some work and some don't.

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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post
 

@DLJr -  I did not see that post but went back and reread it.  So we agree some work and some don't.


I don't agree with your initial statement on the subject at all. I will agree that I think some work and some don't. The ones that work really well I can see having a chance to being "classics". Everyone knows I'm a Nomos fanboy (I own a 35mm Orion and the Welzeit, and will probably add the Mtero and/or Minimatik at some point), but I'm not going to claim I like every single model they put out. I can see them becoming more refined over time, right now the aesthetic sacrifice on some of the larger size watches probably help buy you quality inhouse movements. They may always operate under that model to keep costs down, or they may start refining a bit more moving forward, who knows.

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I'm not saying that Nomos does everything perfectly — though to be fair, changing a subdial's placement is far from being a trivial matter, as it literally requires going back to the drawing board and redesigning the movement from scratch — but I think they're a fundamentally sound company that operates with quiet excellence, which is an uncommon thing in such a hype-driven industry.

Essentially, they know what they're doing and they do it well. I look forward to seeing them grow.


And if they ever make a chronograph, I'm sure it will be fantastic — I'd be confident enough to buy it sight unseen. biggrin.gif
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Without seeing them side by side, viewing a wrist shot or having another point of reference, I'd be really curious as to how many of us could correctly identify whether the below Tangente is the 35mm model, or the 38mm version?





(Nothing against anyone who might favor a 33mm watch, but I don't think that's a realistic option for most of us these days).

And hey, I know these things are really judged based on the finest of details, where the millimeters--nay, micrometers can potentially make or break a design. But I think we may have a case of angels dancing on the head of a pin with this one.
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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post

The Tangente 33 and Tangente 38 use the same Alpha movement.  In essence they are shoving a little movement in a big case but a whole 5mm difference.  In all honesty I thought I was going to find out the exact size of the Montblanc movement people bitch about then compare it to the 40 mm case size.  I then realized their movement is probabaly 30mm as their case looks to have at least 5mm on each size of the movement from the backside view.  

Maybe harsh on my part to compare Nomos to Montblanc but the Tangente 38 looks off compared to the Tangente 33 or the Minimatik Belli tried to throw in which is smaller and uses a different movement.

I know the Nomos' 38 mm non-date subdial placement is pretty far from ideal; the Montblanc thing was a bit of exaggeration. I will say in all sincerity that Nomos' single subdial doesn't look quite as goofy to me as having four of them stuffed that close to the centre, however. smile.gif


image source: Mark NJ on TZ

Also, the Montblanc's design smacks of laziness and ends up looking rather cheap and nasty — and that damn Arial certainly doesn't help in this respect:


image source: Mark NJ on TZ

The $6800 MSRP seems a bit high for such a mundane and carelessly-laid-out product. (The kerning stinks.)

However, it could certainly be worse when it comes to badly-drawn subdials!:

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There was a discussion in another forum on lighting saying "Why are there no classic LED light fittings?". Apart from the discussion of how long does a product have to have been around before it can be considered a classic was the question of new technology.

Can one compose a new riff on old technology which mechanical wristwatches are? It is easier early in a technology's implementation which is why the Rolex Oyster, Cartier Tank and JLC Reverso etc remain classics and new ones like Nomos (which one could argue has touches of Max Bill and Mondaine in the DNA) find it hard to achieve the same status.

One day there will be a classic digital/electronic watch and although the Apple watch has the style I do not believe its current iteration has the content to be a classic.
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Gearing up for an action-packed weekend with my Celadon Imperial, the watch that made one GQ Italia journalist gasp “Molto Elegante” upon seeing it in the steel...

Have an absolutely wonderful weekend ahead friends, so awesome it makes last weekend green with envy wink.gif





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Ah, yes — it's that special time of the week when the delightful fragrance of spam wafts across the thread yet again.

And this time it's 100% recycled spam — yummy.

Have a peachy keen weekend too, salesman!

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(The kerning stinks.)
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This reminds me of a time years ago when I was collecting Mapplethorpe nudes. My girlfriend, after viewing those featuring Lisa Lyon, mentioned that her breasts were not evenly sized; and that it was something common to the female physique. Innocence lost.....
Edited by Tried and True - 10/2/15 at 7:56am
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Uh okayyy...
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Casual friday...

Wrist: IWC Mark XV (ref 3253) - just picked this up yesterday. Not sure if i'll keep it.
Jacket: Lovat Tweed made up by David Reeves
Shirt: Hilditch and Key

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Nice.

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Not sure if i'll keep it.

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^

Not caring for the two-toned dial.
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