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Originally Posted by Gent1989 View Post

A magnificent timepiece! If you don't mind me asking, how much did it set you back?

I got this as a gift, but they usually can be had for around 2k. At least that's what i've seen on Ebay.
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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post

I love the Overseas. Perhaps it's because the overwhelming majority of people I would run in to would have no idea what the Matlese Cross motif meant.
Yeah, the Overseas is stealth-like in comparison to the Royal Oak, which is by far the most identifiable of the Big Three sport watches. That sucker can be spotted from across the street on a moonlit night. The Nautilus can be spied from across a dimly lit restaurant dining room. Whereas the Overseas would need a formal introduction to those seated across the table.

And of course Rolex is identifiable from space.
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Originally Posted by firenze_rob View Post

Wearing a Tag Carrera Re-edition from 1994.

 

 

Very nice indeed. If only TAG Heuer had kept on making designs like this, instead of most of the overly large, blingy models that they make nowadays. 

 

There's a very good reason why classic Heuers from the 1960s and 1970s (Carrera, Autavia, Monaco, Silverstone etc) keep on increasing in value whereas most people who like watches regard modern TAG Heuers as decidedly pedestrian. 

 

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Originally Posted by Gent1989 View Post
 

A magnificent timepiece! If you don't mind me asking, how much did it set you back?

 

You can get them quite cheaply, as firenze_rob noted, although the re-issue isn't that commonly seen.

 

It's powered by the classic Lemania 1873 chrono movement, which is nicely finished and very reliable (and the same movement as used by Omega in the 861/1861-powered editions of the Speedmaster Professional "Moonwatch"). 

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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post

Looks great, now you have to fill it.

I had to return mine to A/S.
There was a flaw in the fabrication that pulled the hinge out of the socket every time I opened it up past 80 degrees.
The guys were gracious about the return.
I did take a few pics while I had it. (You can see the flaw in the pic attached)


Oh man that's too bad. Did you get another one? I had been looking for one for so long and this seemed to fit the bill. Just have to be careful with my Pam to make sure that the glass doesn't hit the crystal.

And you're right...mine needs to be filled!
Edited by tricky - 9/29/15 at 5:06pm
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Got to handle the Globemasters over the week. Nice little watch. Good size and sat on the wrist well. Pie pan dial worked well with the bezel. Not sure I'd ever get one but a worthy addition to anybody's lineup.
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
 

 

 

It's a VC, so it's very well-made, but the bezel and lugs really don't do anything for me at all. The bezel, in particular, leaves me cold. I don't really like the date placement, either, although that's not a deal-breaker like the bezel shape.

 

If I was looking for a similar watch, I'd be much more attracted by the IWC Ingenieur, which you can get with a blue dial: 

 

http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/ingenieur/IW323909/

 

 

Like the VC, it's anti-magnetic. You can also get it on a strap. I've got no idea of pricing but I'd be willing to bet that the IWC is cheaper than the VC, too. 

 

Thanks for the post, interesting that you & others mention the IWC as I already have one:

 

 

 

I posted because the VCs dial is a much more vibrant blue than the IWCs! That combined with my having previously been interested in the VC has me thinking. The thing that has held me back is what I've read about servicing VCs.

 

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I love the Overseas on the Maltese bracelet (one of my favorites); not so much without.



The blue dial is pretty nice but white would be my preference.

 

Thanks for your post...

 

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The blue dial is quite nice, but the bracelet is a must. And like T&T I think I prefer the white dial. There are plenty of people in this thread who don't like the Overseas because they find the maltese cross motif a bit loud, but I find its incorporation stunning. If you are in to an Overseas I would not consider the Ingenieur, it just falls short (assuming you like the maltese cross motif, which I'm assuming you do). I love the bezel and case shape. The bracelet feels fantastic and the whole thing just sits wonderfully on the wrist (at least for me).

 

You as well!

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
 

Sorry, but the only thing I like about this watch is the color of the dial, and that its not textured (I really disliked the texture found on the earlier Overseas models with silver/white dials).  The rest of the dial, I find very unappealing.  I don't like the huge lum markings and the big Arabic numerals, it makes the watch less versatile and less elegant than its competitors from PP and AP.  In addition I find the time only dial looks too cluttered with Arabic numerals, big lum next to them, and then a small Arabic 5 minute marker closest to the bezel. It almost becomes silly at the 12 marker (once they put on the Maltese Cross, VC and Geneve).  The date window might have worked there if the dial were white or the date wheel were blue,...but I don't like having a big white date aperture on the blue dial between 4 &5.  

 

I also do not care for the case shape or the transition from case to lugs on the current Overseas.  I prefer the last generation's design to the current model.  Also, if you can purchase a bracelet, it most like will cost you a rather significant sum, although I find the Maltese Cross design incorporation into the bracelet a bit too blingy.  Its just one step shy of wearing a Tshirt that says, "I'm wearing a Vacheron Constantin."

 

VC has always been hit or miss with their sports watches.  My favorite was their original 222 designed by Jorg Hysek, which was their alternative to a Nautilus or RO.  But they changed direction and went to a hideous quasi dress version called the 333 which was followed by the boring and unattractive Phidias, and then eventually they gave us a handsome 1st gen Overseas (although some had a few issues, such as bracelet links that would get "locked up")...then they revised it heavily keeping only the bezel and released the current model.  The can never decide what direction to go with their sports models so they change gears constantly, and some look rather dated.  VC makes a great product and I am a fan of their watches, but I greatly prefer their dress watches to their sport watches.  

 

I suppose if I were in your shoes, I'd have to decide if you truly love this model or if you want to wait and see if VC revises the Overeas in 2016 its 20th anniversary.  I heard some talk about it possibly being revised for next year, but not sure if its merely speculation.   The current Overseas is not a watch for me, but if it truly puts a smile on your face then go for it.  

 

+1

I really like the Ingenieur, I just wish the movement wasn't so pedestrian.  Yes, the IWC is I believe less than half the price of the Overseas time only model above...but part of that can be attributed to the movement.  

 

Nice combination!  The 114270 Explorer is my favorite modern version of the Explorer.

 

Thanks for your perspective, always interesting to read. I actually like much of the dial's design aspects you dislike!

 

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Not unlike @Dino944, you can count me on the "I dont like the VC Oversea much/at all" crowd. I find the dial to be pretty bland in term of design (compared to it's competitors, the Nautilus and the Royal Oak in the same color renderings). I also am not fond of the Arabic numerals and the shape of the hour markers. Plus, I find the Maltese cross design a bit rubbish (but I understand this is a matter of opinion, so I completely accept this opinion as my own, and not a fact). 

 

In the end, it's not that I find the watch truly repulsive. It's simply that for a roughly equivalent sum of money, I think my wrist would be better treated to a Royal Oak 15400/15300 or a Nautilus Jumbo (both on bracelet) - I find their design and style much more to my liking!

 

I saw @DLJr mentionned the Ingenieur - I personally find the design more appealing on the Inge line-up than that of the Oversea.

 

That is, of course, my 2 cents. 

 

I haven't been able to find a 15300 in the wild yet & the 15400 just looks 'off' on my wrist. As someone else mentioned the Nautilus is in a totally different league cost-wise.

 

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Like I said, it all comes down to personal opinion and I respect yours 100%. If everyone of us would all think alike, then things would get boring fairly quickly!

 

:fistbump:

 

 

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

For me, it's probably the most wearable of that family. The RO would last maybe 2 weeks before I messed up the finish, so for me the RO is one of the least versatile watches around because I'm simply too clumsy to wear it as anything resembling a sport/casual setting, and I'm too conservative to wear it as a dress watch. The Nautilus I could do, but the price point is significantly different than the Overseas. I don't consider myself a loud or flashy person (heck I find the RO too flashy to wear as a dress watch), but I love the Overseas. Perhaps it's because the overwhelming majority of people I would run in to would have no idea what the Matlese Cross motif meant. Maybe I'd need them to throw in one of those T-Shirts Dino mentioned so people could be impressed.

 

I don't think many of my friends would be able to identify it as a VC either!

 

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Oh for sure, it would be extremely boring. I'm also totally okay with being in the minority here, I just wanted to speak up because I knew a lot of the critiques would be about the maltese theme (not the first time this watch has been brought up) and it appears the OP enjoys that theme considering he wants to purchase the bracelet as an addition and that's quite expensive. So I wasn't sure how helpful critiquing something that appears to be a draw to the OP is to him.

 

The Overseas (white dial) was long in the running for me as a sport watch. Ultimately, I will (most likely) go Rolex, which probably speaks louder to most people because it's simply more recognizable, but the modern Overseas really tugs at my heart. I just can't get enough of the bracelet on the wrist. I do agree with a lot of the critics of the dial, but I find them less of an issue on the white face. I'm curious what they'll release for the update, I think the movement is going in-house.

 

No worries, I was interested in all opinions of the watch/bracelet! 

 

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
 

While he might like the bracelet...I read this,  "I'm interested in hearing others thoughts/opinions on the Overseas in general & the Ultramarine in particular" as asking for opinions on the watch as a whole, and for me that would include the bracelet, as it is a major component of most watches.  He may still love the bracelet regardless of anyone's opinions about the bracelet, but in full disclosure about thoughts on the Overseas, IMHO the bracelet is fair game.  

 

I do think the Overseas, much like the Nautilus and RO, looks best on a bracelet...I just don't care for the bracelet they offer.   Personally, I am hoping for a major overhaul of the entire Overseas line next year.  I guess we will just have to see if it happens. 

 

It will be interesting to see if their is a redesign...

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Originally Posted by deacon-hh View Post
 

Last Week and this week

 

I like the green one. What is it?

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I got this as a gift, but they usually can be had for around 2k. At least that's what i've seen on Ebay.

Oh right.  Might have to have a browse! Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
 

 

 

Very nice indeed. If only TAG Heuer had kept on making designs like this, instead of most of the overly large, blingy models that they make nowadays. 

 

There's a very good reason why classic Heuers from the 1960s and 1970s (Carrera, Autavia, Monaco, Silverstone etc) keep on increasing in value whereas most people who like watches regard modern TAG Heuers as decidedly pedestrian. 

 

 

You can get them quite cheaply, as firenze_rob noted, although the re-issue isn't that commonly seen.

 

It's powered by the classic Lemania 1873 chrono movement, which is nicely finished and very reliable (and the same movement as used by Omega in the 861/1861-powered editions of the Speedmaster Professional "Moonwatch"). 

Thanks! I'll have to check that out.  Any advice on where to look?

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Originally Posted by Don Murray View Post
 

I like the green one. What is it?

 

Hi,

 

its a HMT Jawan. Its a watch company from India. New Models a very cheap 5-20$. Classic look. Handwinding.

 

Today's HMT Pilot

 

 

 

Regards

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JLC just came out with Geophysic True Second, which looks really, really interesting. 'dink seemed to like it (no surprise), but I think I have to talk to my AD if he's getting a display piece soon...

http://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-jaeger-lecoultre-geophysic-true-second
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Those JLCs are a prime example of how a few sloppy details can really drag down the look of a watch.

As long as anyone can fire up a computer and take a stab at making a watch, there will continue to be half-baked designs out there like the Geophysic's. The movement seems lovely, but it sure doesn't look too special from the front. The date window is particularly cheap-looking. Rather than the '50s originals, it's almost like they're drawing inspriation those disposable DW watches I see all over the place.

The world timer, besides being an unimaginative Patek copy, seems particularly badly-drawn — in large part due to the use of inherently-cheap Arial, which has no place on a watch at any price. It's a strong indicator that these guys don't entirely know what they're doing. Why so many companies use professionals for the movements but cheap out so obviously on the more-visible areas is a mystery to me.

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

The world timer, besides being an unimaginative Patek copy, seems particularly badly-drawn — in large part due to the use of inherently-cheap Arial, which has no place on a watch at any price. It's a strong indicator that these guys don't entirely know what they're doing. Why so many companies use professionals for the movements but cheap out so obviously on the more-visible areas is a mystery to me.

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At the risk of sounding dim, what's "Arial" and why shouldn't it be used?

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Bureaucrat font.
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As long as anyone can fire up a computer and take a stab at making a watch, there will continue to be half-baked designs out there like the Geophysic's. The movement seems lovely, but it sure doesn't look too special from the front. The date window is particularly cheap-looking. Rather than the '50s originals, it's almost like they're drawing inspriation those disposable DW watches I see all over the place.

The world timer, besides being an unimaginative Patek copy, seems particularly badly-drawn — in large part due to the use of inherently-cheap Arial, which has no place on a watch at any price. It's a strong indicator that these guys don't entirely know what they're doing. Why so many companies use professionals for the movements but cheap out so obviously on the more-visible areas is a mystery to me.

I agree about the text on the standard watch, why it could not have been positioned on the back of the watch I do not know. The world timer does not interest me as I find all such watches cheap looking whether they are by a great name or small. On the other hand I do not know what you find so bad about the date window?

BTW is there a different version of the world timer for the Southern Hemisphere?
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