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EGs and Rolex, perfect combination!!!

 

I couldn't agree more! Sad thing I own none!

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It probably has to do with people using them less and less as tools and weren't worth the premium over the Sub to the average wearer.  

Regardless, I think it's phenomenal and my favorite sports/dive Rolex I've owned. 

I am one of those idiots. I passed on the SD to get a 14060m when I bought my first watch.
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I am one of those idiots. I passed on the SD to get a 14060m when I bought my first watch.

I am one of those idiots as well. Couldn't swing the SD so I went with the 14060M.

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Anybody see the new Omega Globemaster in person yet? If so, thoughts?

They're making the rounds of the boutiques so hoping to see one soon.
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Anybody see the new Omega Globemaster in person yet? If so, thoughts?.
I saw the lineup on my last visit to the boutique and they left me cold. The combination of the fluted bezel and the brushed case works to detract from the beautiful pie pan dial, IMO.
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I saw the lineup on my last visit to the boutique and they left me cold. The combination of the fluted bezel and the brushed case works to detract from the beautiful pie pan dial, IMO.

 

That's a pity to hear, as I really like the look of the pie-pan dial.

 

I'll have to check them out "in the metal", so to speak, when I get the chance although the dismal, dismal state of the Australian dollar at present means that they'll be very expensive down under.

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Is there a reason Rolex has increased so much in value? Beautiful watches to be sure, but a used 116610 for ~$10,000 CAN? Gimme a break.
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Anybody see the new Omega Globemaster in person yet? If so, thoughts?

They're making the rounds of the boutiques so hoping to see one soon.
Try as I may, I haven't located one in London or at various airports yet. The ladies at the Omega boutique in Heathrow clearly hadn't even heard of it.
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I saw the lineup on my last visit to the boutique and they left me cold. The combination of the fluted bezel and the brushed case works to detract from the beautiful pie pan dial, IMO.

Say it ain't so! Maybe in rose gold?
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Try as I may, I haven't located one in London or at various airports yet. The ladies at the Omega boutique in Heathrow clearly hadn't even heard of it.

It's so hit and miss at the boutiques. Was talking to the tech at one of the NJ boutiques about the Globemaster, which prompted my question here. He is a big watch guy and was loving the Globemaster. Not only did he know seemingly every detail about the watch, Omega had just sent him to Switzerland for training and to learn more about the manufacturing process.

Gotta see it in the flesh, hopefully I can make it back over there this weekend when they have them on display.
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It's so hit and miss at the boutiques. Was talking to the tech at one of the NJ boutiques about the Globemaster, which prompted my question here. He is a big watch guy and was loving the Globemaster. Not only did he know seemingly every detail about the watch, Omega had just sent him to Switzerland for training and to learn more about the manufacturing process.

Gotta see it in the flesh, hopefully I can make it back over there this weekend when they have them on display.

 

I'm quite eager too. Just so curious about the fluted tungsten bezel. Tungsten would be pretty darn resilient.

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Is there a reason Rolex has increased so much in value? Beautiful watches to be sure, but a used 116610 for ~$10,000 CAN? Gimme a break.

Not to be pedantic, but value and price are not necessarily the same thing. Nevertheless, Rolex has been pretty astute in adjusting their retail price, in conjunction with firm controls of their distribution, to inflation. Couple this with relatively stability to their core product lines (Sub, SeaDweller (with exception to the Deep Sea), Datejust), I believe this has kept resale prices high. Of course, the watch market is particularly frothy right now. So when the next deleveraging happens, it will be interesting to see how mechanical watch prices hold up.
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A few thoughts on the Explorer II after a week:
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- It's sized just right for my wrist. Probably the maximum I'd wear, which is why I went for this rather than e.g. a 44mm Luminor

- I bought it at LHR en route for a short US business trip, and because I didn't want to leave it in my hotel room, I wore it out there even with a suit. I wouldn't normally do this (I have a Nomos Tangente GMT for business trips), and I was surprised that the Explorer didn't feel horribly out of place with a suit

- The GMT function was very easy to read; easier I think than the Nomos (which has a 'date style' sub-dial with 24h hours). Also easy to set

- I'm still not a big fan of the Cyclops date window, but can live with it. I especially don't like the appearance when one of the hands is underneath the Cyclops

Overall, very pleased I got it - thanks for everyone's advice.

Thanks for the notes and the follow-up on the watch; I agree almost entirely.

Personally, as with most things Rolex, I found that the Cyclops was an acquired taste. I went from dislike to indifference to affection, and I now wouldn’t have my date display any other way. That bit of asymmetry and light-bending adds a lot of character to the watch, and its absence on the Sea-Dweller is the biggest factor in why it leaves me a bit cold. I’d love to hear if your opinion changes in a year or two like mine did.

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Is there a reason Rolex has increased so much in value? Beautiful watches to be sure, but a used 116610 for ~$10,000 CAN? Gimme a break.

Short answer:

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(Bear in mind that they do all their manufacturing in Switzerland, and that it’s a much more hands-on process than some may think.)

Longer answer:

True, they’re not exactly bargains — though I think the older 34 mm ones can be a ridiculously good buy at current prices — but I don’t think the cost is unreasonable. I never thought I’d say that when I first took interest in watches, but I really don’t see anyone else offering substantially more watch for the money, all things considered.

Two things I value highly in a watch are originality and integrity, and Rolex doesn’t cut corners in either department. From what I can see, these factors strongly influence serious collector appeal as well, much like any other collectible. They have a strong long-term advantage over many competitors, in that they're structured as an independent private trust that doesn't have grabastic shareholders trying to milk the company for short-sighted gains with trendy limited editions and the like.

I attended my watchmaker friend’s wedding last month, and had the good fortune to be seated with some of his former WOSTEP classmates. Three of the five were wearing Rolex out of individual choice, not because they worked for the company. The other two wore the products of the small manufacturer which employed them. It was clear they all had huge respect for the company from our conversations.

Here are a few samples of other watchmakers’ opinions:

watchmakingblog.com: A Quick Fit
(there's a wealth of general knowledge on that site, by the way)

Raul Horology: Rolex 3035 Full Service
(note that this is from the much-maligned-by-the-internet-experts 30XX series of movements)
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Consider Nomos; they're an exemplary company that doesn't attract the same accusations of simply charging for the name. They have a comparable manufacturing philosophy (i.e. no cheap outsourcing), and their prices aren’t far off for similar models once you take into account the lack of a bracelet. A Zurich would very likely cost more than an OP if they offered a bracelet to a similar standard, in fact. It’s just ain't cheap to manufacture watches from scratch in Switzerland or Germany.

Yes, ceramic Submariners are costly (though worth it, IMO), but I think it’s pretty tough to find a better value at under $2K than something like this:

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image credit: rolex-marche.jp

I’m not saying that you have to buy a Rolex to get a great watch, it's just that I don’t see anyone making an alternative to a comparable standard for significantly less. When you consider how strongly they retain their value and how remarkably well they fare with time in both looks and durability, I have no hesitation recommending them to anyone who wants a high-quality watch.

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Edited by Belligero - 9/25/15 at 7:37am
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Reverso today.

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Thanks for the notes and the follow-up on the watch; I agree almost entirely.

Personally, as with most things Rolex, I found that the Cyclops was an acquired taste. I went from dislike to indifference to affection, and I now wouldn’t have my date display any other way. That bit of asymmetry and light-bending adds a lot of character to the watch, and its absence on the Sea-Dweller is the biggest factor in why it leaves me a bit cold. I’d love to hear if your opinion changes in a year or two like mine did.

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Short answer:

imggraph_php_C1_CHF_C2_USD_A_1_DD1_01_MM1_01_YYY.png
(Bear in mind that they do all their manufacturing in Switzerland, and that it’s a much more hands-on process than some may think.)

Longer answer:

True, they’re not exactly bargains — though I think the older 34 mm ones can be a ridiculously good buy at current prices — but I don’t think the cost is unreasonable. I never thought I’d say that when I first took interest in watches, but I really don’t see anyone else offering substantially more watch for the money, all things considered.

Two things I value highly in a watch are originality and integrity, and Rolex doesn’t cut corners in either department. From what I can see, these factors strongly influence serious collector appeal as well, much like any other collectible. They have a strong long-term advantage over many competitors, in that they're structured as an independent private trust that doesn't have grabastic shareholders trying to milk the company for short-sighted gains with trendy limited editions and the like.

I attended my watchmaker friend’s wedding last month, and had the good fortune to be seated with some of his former WOSTEP classmates. Three of the five were wearing Rolex out of individual choice, not because they worked for the company. The other two wore the products of the small manufacturer which employed them. It was clear they all had huge respect for the company from our conversations.

Let me ask you - what percentage of Rolex's consumer base is made up of enthusiasts?
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