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Guys just to be clear I wasn't making any value judgments about the Apple Watch. I'm not a potential buyer and I don't think it will replace fine watches for most connoisseurs. I just wanted to point out that I am seeing tons of them and that they are even (or especially) prevalent in the board room at technology companies.

I agree the price discussion is worth having with respect to the mass market but it's irrelevant for the board members for example. If they wanted Rolexes they would have Rolexes. I think the Apple Watches have a certain kind of currency with the sorts of wealthy tech people I see regularly who wouldn't otherwise wear a timepiece, or wouldn't wear a fine timepiece. Like I said, they didn't replace the Rolexes on the board member who has a collection. I see the Apple Watch as being the premium option for people who would otherwise be wearing a Fitbit - and a lot of people in the Bay Area wear fitbits. It's all the more amazing since everyone seems to agree the Apple Watch doesn't really do much right now and isn't that great of a device.
there is more than 20 apple watch on my floor, what's interesting is

1. Mostly on guy who used to not to wear watch

2. All of them can buy Rolex without blink but they didn't. What that tell me is it is indeed reaching out to people who doesn't wear watch normally

3. Lastly, over 1/2 of them are 40 to 50 years old
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Another Macro shot today

Sandwich dial and some rubies.

PAM 176

Maybe this makes me a "Lemming"... Thank goodness I have some variety. haha

 

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Sometimes feeling blue is feeling pretty awesome…

Here’s wishing all of you a ludicrously fantastic week ahead!




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Seems good, although DavidSW (I've never done business with him but I have heard good things about him), has a 16610 same year I believe, with box, papers, and hang tags for just a bit more $5,175.  I'm a big fan of a full set.  Boxes of recent models can be purchased on ebay, papers can't be.  Over the years a full set will always be worth more.  Good luck with whatever you decide. 

Thank you for the suggestion. I checked it out on his website. I wonder why it is priced at $1,000 less than any other Submariner listed. It looks like there is some wear and tear on the bracelet?

 

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What's 'pretty solid seller' mean? If it's your first big purchase, be cautious (well, be cautious with any big purchase, I guess).

@Dino944 mentions David SW - I've bought and sold many pieces with him and he's generally my go to guy. He might knock off a couple hundred if you ask.

He is a family friend with a jewelry business here in NYC.

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Thank you for the suggestion. I checked it out on his website. I wonder why it is priced at $1,000 less than any other Submariner listed. It looks like there is some wear and tear on the bracelet?

He is a family friend with a jewelry business here in NYC.

Probably the price reflects the age.
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Probably the price reflects the age.
Yes, probably, but there are instances where a seller is extremely motivated and an item will be 'priced to move.'
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there is more than 20 apple watch on my floor, what's interesting is

1. Mostly on guy who used to not to wear watch

2. All of them can buy Rolex without blink but they didn't. What that tell me is it is indeed reaching out to people who doesn't wear watch normally

3. Lastly, over 1/2 of them are 40 to 50 years old

With guys who don't wear watches it rarely has anything to do with their income or the cost of the watch (be it Gshock, Rolex, or something fancier).  There is a younger generation that sees no real need for a watch, since they can get the time and date off a phone.   One guy in my office said other than for checking the or time when he is in court he wouldn't wear a watch.   He is into tech gadgets, but isn't interested in a first gen model as its functions are limited.  He said he might consider the next generation model if it does more. 

 

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Thank you for the suggestion. I checked it out on his website. I wonder why it is priced at $1,000 less than any other Submariner listed. It looks like there is some wear and tear on the bracelet?

 

He is a family friend with a jewelry business here in NYC.

Sorry, I don't see the wear and tear you speak of from the photo.  The bracelet looks quite clean, not a lot of stretch for a 12 year old watch.  The bracelet was probably refinished as its about 12-13 years old and it looks to have no scuffs/scratches.  As for price, I agree with the others...its due to its age.  Also, you should be aware that its value has gone up considerably since it was new, About a year prior to the model year listed, and back in the days when a steel Sub or GMT could be purchased easily with a 10% discount, it had an MSRP of about $3,500.  The only thing in particular I noticed is the watch has protective tape on the clasp to keep it from getting scratched.  Also check David'f FAQ section for a definition of how they determine the condition of a watch.

 

As for a family friend in the jewelry business, have you seen the watch in person?  Do you truly know enough to evaluate its condition relative to its value?  Sorry but a lot of guys who are jewelers who dabble with a few pre-owned Rolex or other watches rarely know much about what they are selling.  I'd rather buy from someone with a good reputation in the industry, who is an expert in the field  and who has experience pricing a watch relative to condition, over a friend dabbling in pre-owned watches.  In addition, many of the jewelers I've seen in NYC selling pre-owned watches are very over priced considering the condition of the pieces they are selling.  I haven't seen your friend's watch so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.  Still, a watch with a full set in really nice condition is worth the extra money and as others said, you might be able to negotiate to get David's piece for the price of your friend's paperless watch.  

 

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide.  

 

P.S. either watch, based on age, might be in need of a service soon.  Just something to be mindful of, when dealing with 13 year old watches.  A service of the movement at Rolex for a Sub, GMT, or Ex2 runs about $600.  


Edited by Dino944 - 9/21/15 at 8:36am
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If you're a grown man but you simply must have an Apple watch then I see that Hermes are catering for that.
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"When I watched a fellow journalist approaching the departure gate at Heathrow armed only with an Apple Watch and the British Airways app, I’m not too mature to admit that I prayed feverishly for the computer to say ‘No’. What happened was even better.

The watch couldn’t fit into the scanning machine – even when taken off and jiggled about.

At least one of the staff was trying to suppress a fit of giggles.

‘This thing is going on eBay next week,’ the wearer spat.

But while smart-watches clearly have a few rough edges – four months on, Apple’s is still very unpolished, and very un-Apple-esque – the fad seems to have sunk its teeth into the tech world, and shows no sign of letting go."

From Mail on Sunday
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If I wasn't into mechanical watches then I'd definitely get an Apple watch. Being able to get notifications of texts/emails/calls showing up on my wrist without having to take the phone out of my pocket would be very useful. There is also the possibility of its acting as a GPS-driven navigator for bicycle journeys (eg vibrate once for left, twice for right).

Of course, as I am into mechanical watches, I will not be wearing an Apple watch.
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Yes, the inconvenience and delay in taking my phone out of my pocket is killing me. If only I could find a solution, preferably an expensive one with a limited lifespan...
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Not being able to put your phone away seems like, it would become a stress factor.
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Indeed, smarter phones make for dumber people. It's not good for your brain to be that connected to all those pings, notifications, alerts, messages, etc.

I agree entirely with this article about how more information (specifically, news) leads to impairments in decision-making ability, creativity, and quality of life:
Rolf Dobelli: Avoid News
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So, I registered the MUT Moon on JLC's "LeClub", and they sent me this lovely gift! No sorry, the watch inside was not included.

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(Well, the way it really happened was this: Some of my fellow Norwegian collectors have received lovely gifts when registering their watches. I had registered my Master Chrono a long time ago, but received no lovely gift. I had also recently registered my MUT Moon, a year after aquiring, but received no lovely gift. So I sent JLC a polite letter basically sobbing "Why did they get a treat and not me? It's not fair!". So they sent me this lovely gift biggrin.gif )
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I agree entirely with this article about how more information (specifically, news) leads to impairments in decision-making ability, creativity, and quality of life:
Rolf Dobelli: Avoid News

Thanks for posting that. For whatever reasons, I've always lived my life 'news free', so this was an interesting read. (Of course, I have to consider if my liking the article is merely me showing 'confirmation bias', as mentioned in No 5.)

Just came back from a week in Italy where I left my phone in the room - and only once went on wi-fi to check if I had any messages - and it wasn't a particular conscious choice (instead I finally managed to finish Moby Dick).

To keep things relevant I'll try to post a watch pick when I've emptied the camera...
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