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post #46216 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

^^^Another reason to be jealous of the watch scene that's happening there in the Big Apple. Would love to do this^^^

Also saw on Hodinkee where they are holding a "collector's summit" in December.

 

What? No rants yet about the Hodinkee Summit?  Wow, what's happening to TWAT?

 

1.  By invite only - so apply if you want to attend.  Limited to 100 slots.

 

2.  "This is not about getting the wealthiest collectors in the world together – but the most passionate." <- Quote from the site/entry.

 

3.  If accepted, it will cost $3,500 for a couple of days.

 

Comments?

post #46217 of 48312
The program seems really interesting. All topics that I'd want to hear about. But I wouldn't pay $3500.
post #46218 of 48312
+3. "Patina'd" and "full of character" and "tropical" I tend to read as "a bit fucked".

As for 3500 for the conference: you can get a pre-fucked Submariner for that...
post #46219 of 48312
Thanks for the input. I love aged watches but decided to pass on this one as it has a bit too much character for the price.
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Also too much price for the character.  Get a cleaner one for less money and mess it up yourself.  And post pics.  There are never too many. :)

post #46221 of 48312
I think it would be absolutely epic to attend. The price is a ton for something like that, but they're just covering costs so I can't actually be mad at them for it.

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

What? No rants yet about the Hodinkee Summit?  Wow, what's happening to TWAT?

1.  By invite only - so apply if you want to attend.  Limited to 100 slots.

2.  "This is not about getting the wealthiest collectors in the world together – but the most passionate." <- Quote from the site/entry.

3.  If accepted, it will cost $3,500 for a couple of days.

Comments?
post #46222 of 48312
Too geeky for me. And it might put my dilettante status at risk.shog[1].gif
post #46223 of 48312
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

What? No rants yet about the Hodinkee Summit?  Wow, what's happening to TWAT?

 

1.  By invite only - so apply if you want to attend.  Limited to 100 slots.

 

2.  "This is not about getting the wealthiest collectors in the world together – but the most passionate." <- Quote from the site/entry.

 

3.  If accepted, it will cost $3,500 for a couple of days.

 

Comments?

1. Perceived scarcity of availability

2. Honestly, they don't want to make it for just the wealthiest, but at the $3,500 price point, it is severely limiting the small collector who only has one or two watches. The same collector who may only be able to afford one watch that is in the $10k price range.

3. The price includes drinks Friday and food and drinks Saturday. I am not sure the bang for the buck is there. I have a hard time with the covering costs only argument.

 

I understand the target audience for the 'dink is the white collar professional, that is in >$250K income.

They said that in an article a while back.

post #46224 of 48312
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

What? No rants yet about the Hodinkee Summit?  Wow, what's happening to TWAT?

 

1.  By invite only - so apply if you want to attend.  Limited to 100 slots.

 

2.  "This is not about getting the wealthiest collectors in the world together – but the most passionate." <- Quote from the site/entry.

 

3.  If accepted, it will cost $3,500 for a couple of days.

 

Comments?


I'm not sure I can truly have an opinion since I'm not really a "collector". I don't buy watches because they may be a "riser", or disregard watches that may be "decliners". I don't buy vintage pieces that are viewed as "important" or "valuable" (I don't have the means, but more importantly, I don't have the interest). I buy watches I like and enjoy,a nd perhaps some of my likes overlap with those of collectors, but I don't think I really fit in with that crowd. It's just not my thing. That said, I'd like to sit in for the finishing discussion. All the other ones are largely meaningless to me, even if interesting.
 

post #46225 of 48312
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Originally Posted by P. Bateman View Post

I've been in the market for a 1680 with a mean ghost bezel and I think I may have found my watch.

The good:
The bezel is insane
The dial has wonderful character with creamy markers and matching hands.
Bracelet is is original

The bad:
Bezel is chipped on the interior diameter at 7:30 and 1:30
Bracelet is stretched to hell
Case has been polished
Pearl is missing (this is easy enough to replace, but hard to match to the original.

It's listed for $7.1 and I think I could get out the door <$6.5k with all cash. Thoughts?

 

 

HQ Milton has this 1680 which seems to be in better condition.  They also have quite a few 5513s which are in great condition if you can go without the date. http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1978-rolex-submariner-1680-with-rsc-papers

 

As for the Hodinkee Summit, I would assume some special guests would show up at some point.

post #46226 of 48312

Newest video review: FP Journe Centigraphe in killer PT/RG combo

 

post #46227 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Principle View Post
 

Can anyone comment on Valjoux 7730 movements? And a general question from the hardly-informed-but-willing-to-learn: in the scenario that a watch has the same exact movement (such as Valjoux), will there be any distinctions in quality, say in a Carrera Heuer vs. Hamilton vs. Patek, or are you just paying for the brand-affiliated aesthetics and the letters?

I don't have a Valjoux 7730, nor do I know anyone with one.  You will probably have to search dedicated watch forums for info on vintage movements.  

 

As for distinctions when movements go into various companies watches, it truly depends on the company.  Lower end companies may just put their name on the movement and not do much else.  Mid level and higher end companies will finish the movement to their own specific standards.  In addition, many higher end companies when they get a movement/ebauche  its shows up as parts, and it is not a fully assembled movement. They may make revisions such as changing the number of vibrations per hour, or improvements to the movement's design or change certain parts, substituting some of their own parts for the ones that originally came with the ebauche.   Good luck with whatever you decide.  

 

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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

This is, of course, all very subjective but, speaking very personally, I don't understand the enthusiasm for "distressed" watches.

 

You wouldn't look at a 1980s Mercedes with cracked and flaking paint and rust spots and missing hubcaps and say, "Wow, look at the patina on that Merc - it looks great!" No, you'd think that it was a bomb and you'd never think of buying it, even if the engine was in very good order. Suddenly, though, when the wear is on a watch, it becomes highly desirable!

 

As I say, that's just my view, but if it were me, when buying a used watch, I want the watch to be in as good condition as possible and when the watch develops wear and patination, I want it to be because I'm wearing it and I'm having experiences while wearing the watch, not because I've effectively borrowed someone else's experiences. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit harsh and blunt.

+1  :fistbump:  Spot on!!!

  I have never understood paying huge sums of money for watches that have lead less than privileged lives.  I can certainly understand paying a premium for a watch that is basically LNIB or NOS, but then the purchaser is getting the experience of essentially owning a brand new vintage watch.  Those pieces are tough to find and rare. Watches with stretched out bracelets, dings and scrapes in the bezel and case, repolished cases, faded dials and bezels from spending lots of time in the sun ...are not rare or unusual. 

 

I'm one of those other crazy people that wants a watch to be like new without all boxes, papers, and hang tags, so these "distressed/tired" pieces worn by someone else are not for me.  I want a watch I own to tell my stories of adventure (or even my routine days at the office), not someone else's life story.  However, as long as auction houses and buyers continue to show an affinity for tired examples and Subs, GMTs, SDs, etc...we will continue to see them sell for a premium. 

 

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

 

What? No rants yet about the Hodinkee Summit?  Wow, what's happening to TWAT?

 

1.  By invite only - so apply if you want to attend.  Limited to 100 slots.

 

2.  "This is not about getting the wealthiest collectors in the world together – but the most passionate." <- Quote from the site/entry.

 

3.  If accepted, it will cost $3,500 for a couple of days.

 

Comments?

Sounds interesting on some level.  However, I don't need people to tell me what I should collect.  I don't believe in that.  I believe in buying what I love.  If it goes up in value its a bonus, if it depreciates,  I have nothing to be disappointed about, as I bought the watch for me and because I loved it.  

 

The idea of explaining why I deserve an invitation ...reminds me of the old Groucho Marx statement paraphrased as "I don't want to belong to any club that would have me."  While the idea of getting the most passionate rather than wealthiest collectors is a noble idea...I'm not sure how realistic that is. Out of curiosity I checked out the link to request an invitation.  Questions asked are what level of collector do you consider yourself, (new, intermediate, advanced)? Collection size? Where you buy watches AD, Ebay, Auction houses?  Type of watches collected, new, vintage, both?  Seems as though even if they don't intend to gather the wealthiest collectors...that is largely what those questions could cause.  I could be very wrong, but are they truly planning to invite people who own 2 or 3 modern watches, or people who have a huge collection of swatches?    

 

I would like to think that I would have something in common with watch collectors that would attend.  However, at several watch events I've attended in the past (although none hosted by Hodinkee), Mrs. Dino and I thought many of attendees fell into 2 categories = 1) weird or 2) snobby.  So to pay $3,500 to be in their company...nah...I'd rather put those funds maybe toward a pre-owned Pepsi GMT.  :cheers:

post #46228 of 48312
I made a purchase. It should be here Friday. smile.gif

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I made a purchase too. They had the Exp. II tax free at LHR and I couldn't resist. Photo from SFO, about to fly to LAX then home.

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I made a purchase. It should be here Friday. smile.gif
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Congrats,

We look forward to pics.

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