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Plus, that movement shot gives me even more appreciation for what Panerai did in refining / dressing up the Rad 210 "engine" ...

Nicholas Manousos had a Panerai on but I didn't catch what model. I suspect he wore something based on the 6497 for the event. The other 4 instructors all worked for Rolex and as far as I noticed wore Rolex. It wasn't a very show and tell kind of event, and there wasn't any sort of snobbery at all. I have no idea what the other students wore. I wore a Nomos Orion which got the interest of one of the Rolex guys, so he asked if he could see it and it got passed around to a couple of them to check out with a loupe.
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^I did 101 over the summer and echo your comments.

I've got 102 coming up in a couple of weeks, really looking forward to it.

Nice pic btw!

Thanks! I'm curious what you think of 102. I might give it a try when more dates open up.
post #46202 of 48312
That's cool.

And the Orion is probably my favorite Nomos.

Because, lugs.
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PAM 512 today...

 

 

 

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Nice strap on the 512 nod[1].gif
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PAM 512 today...
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Very nice - what's the strap?
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Can anyone comment on Valjoux 7730 movements? And a general question from the hardly-informed-but-willing-to-learn: in the scenario that a watch has the same exact movement (such as Valjoux), will there be any distinctions in quality, say in a Carrera Heuer vs. Hamilton vs. Patek, or are you just paying for the brand-affiliated aesthetics and the letters?

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To provide more information--I'm looking for Valjoux chrono's from the 50's and 60's, trying to figure out which are more widely available and what exactly I'm paying for.

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^Lots of loaded questions there. Taking a quick stab while at work...

But first, a question for you - do you know a good watchmaker who can service such a movement? It could get very expensive very quickly otherwise.

Outside of that - yes the different companies during would finish the movements to greatly varying degrees. Some of the finishing is functional and some is not.

Here's some good background information for you:

http://people.timezone.com/library/cjrml/cjrml0030
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Yeah, I'd say generally speaking, of course a higher-tier maker is going to modify (and decorate) a movement to higher finishing and quality standards, but I really can't comment specifically on 7730's from that era.

Maybe others can chime in regarding vintage stuff.

But for a more modern example: I've got a Hamilton Khaki chronograph with a 7750 movement. I've posted it here before, and I do like it, for what it is .....but there's no question that it's really rather... um, austere compared to what IWC is putting in their (older / non-in-house) Portuguese chronos, using the same base.
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This is the first automatic watch I'm willing to put money into, so I don't have an aloha-shirt-wearing old-timer in mind just yet. That being said, I'm trying to get as much information as possible and have a high preference for buying a watch already serviced (good seller rating, etc).

 

Thank you for your help.

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I've been in the market for a 1680 with a mean ghost bezel and I think I may have found my watch.

The good:
The bezel is insane
The dial has wonderful character with creamy markers and matching hands.
Bracelet is is original

The bad:
Bezel is chipped on the interior diameter at 7:30 and 1:30
Bracelet is stretched to hell
Case has been polished
Pearl is missing (this is easy enough to replace, but hard to match to the original.

It's listed for $7.1 and I think I could get out the door <$6.5k with all cash. Thoughts?



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Love the 512 and 1680 (but I'd look for one in a better condition and unpolished).
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Originally Posted by P. Bateman View Post

I've been in the market for a 1680 with a mean ghost bezel and I think I may have found my watch.

The good:
The bezel is insane
The dial has wonderful character with creamy markers and matching hands.
Bracelet is is original

The bad:
Bezel is chipped on the interior diameter at 7:30 and 1:30
Bracelet is stretched to hell
Case has been polished
Pearl is missing (this is easy enough to replace, but hard to match to the original.

It's listed for $7.1 and I think I could get out the door <$6.5k with all cash. Thoughts?
 

 

 

This is, of course, all very subjective but, speaking very personally, I don't understand the enthusiasm for "distressed" watches.

 

If it's *your* wear - if you've owned the watch for a couple of decades and it has aged with you - then I understand it as the wear on the watch is a reflection of your experiences with the watch.

 

However, if you're buying a watch from someone else, then that's someone else's - a total stranger's - wear and experience.

 

You wouldn't look at a 1980s Mercedes with cracked and flaking paint and rust spots and missing hubcaps and say, "Wow, look at the patina on that Merc - it looks great!" No, you'd think that it was a bomb and you'd never think of buying it, even if the engine was in very good order. Suddenly, though, when the wear is on a watch, it becomes highly desirable!

 

As I say, that's just my view, but if it were me, when buying a used watch, I want the watch to be in as good condition as possible and when the watch develops wear and patination, I want it to be because I'm wearing it and I'm having experiences while wearing the watch, not because I've effectively borrowed someone else's experiences. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit harsh and blunt.

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^ +1 I share JM's view on this subject matter.
post #46215 of 48312
+2 - my only vintage purchases have been from significant dates and in as good condition as possible. The patina is mine.

But the OP is entitled to his view and if it speaks to him aesthetically then perhaps someone on here can answer his questions. My only observation, and I have no expertise on the rarity of that watch, is that $7k sounds excessive in that condition.
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