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Italian silk dressing gown from Como, Paladin Polo shirt in superfine pique cotton (the absolute finest polo shirt in the world - just check out that crow's foot stitching for one!), bespoke tassel loafers (specially commissioned to match the extraordinary watch of course), and the crowning glory, the Celadon Imperial in Midnight Blue… All set now for the most exclusive pyjama party in town!

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I'm interested in hearing opinions on meteorite dials in general as well as this watch in particular:
 

 

I'm chasing after this watch, but the normal dial. Personally I think the meteorite detracts from the rest of the face, making it too busy. It's personally preference of course, but the  155.84.20 for me is the perfect watch. 

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

a blend of whimsical "digital clock" looking numbers and mechanical wizardry.

 

Another name is added to my long list of Lange crushes.  

 

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...my next purchase, which will be:

 

I would suggest the Aqua Terra GMT: 43mm but wears quite light, no cyclops but a subtle day counter at 6, GMT of course, properly swim proof, not quite as flash and stealable as the Rolex, nor as expensive.  Ticks all your boxes but also works as a holiday "one watch" - very smart but relaxed and understated next to your linen shirt and chinos as you cool your sunburn over dinner.  Also available in white (though I'd pick blue).

 

Other alternatives in the £3k-ish bracket are several Breitlings, a hundred different Chopard Mille Miglias (bonus chrono for timing swimming races/bar service).  More out there are Ulysse Nardin's big date GMTs, and Bulgari's Diagono Professional.  Or for a more direct analogue to the Rolex, the Seamaster GMT?

 

Would still pick the AT, personally.  I think.

 

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meteorite dials in general as well as this watch in particular

 

I don't like either, and even less together.

 

Although it's a classic dial layout, I just find it terribly dull, and it looks a bit like Mr Potatohead (yeah, unsee that).  I have come to the conclusion that any watch that makes you feel the need to explain why actually it's rather special because the column wheel is made of a shark's tooth or the dial came from Mars, is compensating for something, and somehow not quite enough in itself.  There are some beautiful JLCs, but I don't think this is one of them.  I saw this kind of dial on some Romain Jerome pieces a while ago, and although they were interesting to look at, that whole "yet another special edition" feel about it rather detracted from the basic appeal of the watch.  Which in this case, isn't much either.

 

Apart from that it's absolutely brilliant!  But get a different JLC. :)

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I don't like either, and even less together.

 

Although it's a classic dial layout, I just find it terribly dull, and it looks a bit like Mr Potatohead (yeah, unsee that).  I have come to the conclusion that any watch that makes you feel the need to explain why actually it's rather special because the column wheel is made of a shark's tooth or the dial came from Mars, is compensating for something, and somehow not quite enough in itself.  There are some beautiful JLCs, but I don't think this is one of them.  I saw this kind of dial on some Romain Jerome pieces a while ago, and although they were interesting to look at, that whole "yet another special edition" feel about it rather detracted from the basic appeal of the watch.  Which in this case, isn't much either.

 

Apart from that it's absolutely brilliant!  But get a different JLC. :)


I don't see it:

 

 

wow, i've just realised I've been saving and procrastinating about this for over a year... post #33395

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I am weighing up my next purchase, which will be:

(i) A holiday watch, for swimming, so either on a bracelet or rubber strap
(ii) With a GMT complication
(iii) Not too large - 40/42mm ideally although could push to 44mm if it doesn't wear too large
(iv) Ideally with a date, although not a deal breaker.

The front runner at the moment is the Rolex Explorer II with a white face. I also looked at (and tried on) the GMT Master ii (tried both black and blue/black) but not overly keen on the bezel or the shiny links. Prefer the Explorer brushed bracelet.

Downside of Explorer - not too keen on the Cyclops date.

Other option considered is the Patek Aquanaut Travel Time. Downside is obviously the cost, and I am not sure how comfortable I'd be having the most expensive watch I'd ever bought on my wrist on holiday and in the pool and sea.

So fellow TWATters - are there any options I've missed?

I'd say that the Explorer II is definitely the one to have with those criteria; it's a great watch, especially for travelling. I don't see the Cyclops as a disadvantage at all — it's pretty groovy once you give it a chance. I used to not like it at all either before actually trying it, but I've come to highly appreciate it as a brilliant design touch and now find that my Sea-Dweller is a bit incomplete without it. If it really bugs you, it's possible to have a different crystal fitted.

Agreed that a too-polished bracelet isn't so desirable for a travel watch. The shiny centre links are the biggest reason that I almost never take the Daytona on trips; I find it limits the versatility compared to a brushed finish and I just plain don't like having that much reflective crap on my wrist unless it can go under a cuff. It's too bad that the current GMT has them, because the brushed finish is part of the reason that I consider the previous versions some of the best all-around watches ever made. If you're considering out-of-production models, it's really worth having a look at a well-looked-after example of an 16710 GMT II or 16570 Explorer II.

I had a Reverso GMT for a few years, and it went on a trip exactly once; that was it for travel. I guess I'm just not into having a fancy watch when I'm going places and doing things. Though it was pretty good, it just wasn't for me. That Travel Time is very appealing, but I suspect it would be a similar story for what to travel with; it's something to wear a bit more carefully. The ultimate luxury is not having to stress.
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I would suggest the Aqua Terra GMT: 43mm but wears quite light, no cyclops but a subtle day counter at 6, GMT of course, properly swim proof, not quite as flash and stealable as the Rolex, nor as expensive. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 Ticks all your boxes but also works as a holiday "one watch" - very smart but relaxed and understated next to your linen shirt and chinos as you cool your sunburn over dinner.  Also available in white (though I'd pick blue).

Other alternatives in the £3k-ish bracket are several Breitlings, a hundred different Chopard Mille Miglias (bonus chrono for timing swimming races/bar service).  More out there are Ulysse Nardin's big date GMTs, and Bulgari's Diagono Professional.  Or for a more direct analogue to the Rolex, the Seamaster GMT?

Would still pick the AT, personally.  I think.

Some interesting alternatives there, but I'm personally not so convinced by that particular Omega. If someone's set on jacking a watch, the obviously-expensive Aqua Terra GMT is as just much of a target as the Rolex — probably even more so due to being bigger and shinier — and in the meantime the wearer has to live with the lame polished centre links, the poorly-integrated 6 o'clock date with mismatched black background, the too-small-for-the-case movement, and the outright-plagiarized minute track. :P

I much prefer the Nomos Worldtimer to the AT as a white- or blue-dialled alternative, though in this specific instance it might not be ideal due to the minimal water resistance and lack of date function. As far as derivative watches go, I'd probably take one of those expensive Seikos that the watch-forum autists keep banging on about before an AT GMT, if for some strange reason I didn't want the Rolex original.

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Hahaha. But the AT is pretty. tongue.gif
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@Winot, the Explorer II is the travel watch. I like my 16750, it's sleek, understated and bullet proof. Cool on Nato or bracelet, or get one of the several excellent aftermarket rubber straps.

My Explorer II at 78 deg north, Svalbard. The polar in its home environment.

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Thin profile, goes with anything.

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Summer-look on a blue perlon.

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

I'd say that the Explorer II is definitely the one to have with those criteria; it's a great watch, especially for travelling. I don't see the Cyclops as a disadvantage at all — it's pretty groovy once you give it a chance. I used to not like it at all either before actually trying it, but I've come to highly appreciate it as a brilliant design touch and now find that my Sea-Dweller is a bit incomplete without it. If it really bugs you, it's possible to have a different crystal fitted.

Agreed that a too-polished bracelet isn't so desirable for a travel watch. The shiny centre links are the biggest reason that I almost never take the Daytona on trips; I find it limits the versatility compared to a brushed finish and I just plain don't like having that much reflective crap on my wrist unless it can go under a cuff. It's too bad that the current GMT has them, because the brushed finish is part of the reason that I consider the previous versions some of the best all-around watches ever made. If you're considering out-of-production models, it's really worth having a look at a well-looked-after example of an 16710 GMT II or 16570 Explorer II.

I had a Reverso GMT for a few years, and it went on a trip exactly once; that was it for travel. I guess I'm just not into having a fancy watch when I'm going places and doing things. Though it was pretty good, it just wasn't for me. That Travel Time is very appealing, but I suspect it would be a similar story for what to travel with; it's something to wear a bit more carefully. The ultimate luxury is not having to stress.
Some interesting alternatives there, but I'm personally not so convinced by that particular Omega. If someone's set on jacking a watch, the obviously-expensive Aqua Terra GMT is as just much of a target as the Rolex — probably even more so due to being bigger and shinier — and in the meantime the wearer has to live with the lame polished centre links, the poorly-integrated 6 o'clock date with mismatched black background, the too-small-for-the-case movement, and the outright-plagiarized minute track. :P

I much prefer the Nomos Worldtimer to the AT as a white- or blue-dialled alternative, though in this specific instance it might not be ideal due to the minimal water resistance and lack of date function. As far as derivative watches go, I'd probably take one of those expensive Seikos that the watch-forum autists keep banging on about before an AT GMT, if for some strange reason I didn't want the Rolex original.

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That's really encouraging, thanks, and thanks also to everyone else particularly @mimo for the alternatives. I actually really like the look of the Omega AT, but suspect it will wear a bit large - will try it and see. Similarly I really liked the look of the IWC Ingenieur Dual Time, but it just feels too large on the wrist.

(Incidentally it's irritating how many watch manufacturers fail to quote the case thickness on their website - it's not just diameter that matters!)

I also have a Nomos GMT Tangomat incidentally, but use that for business trips.
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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

@Winot, the Explorer II is the travel watch. I like my 16750, it's sleek, understated and bullet proof. Cool on Nato or bracelet, or get one of the several excellent aftermarket rubber straps.

My Explorer II at 78 deg north, Svalbard. The polar in its home environment.

0ab8102caf8ec70cea64402a398f9a9f_zpsfb53cba5.jpg

Thin profile, goes with anything.

DSC_1872.jpg

Summer-look on a blue perlon.

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The watch looks much happier in the bottom photo.
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I actually really like the look of the Omega AT, but suspect it will wear a bit large - will try it and see.

Tried it this lunchtime at the Omega showroom on New Bond Street. Didn't like it in the flesh - too big and shiny.

Popped into JLC to try the Master Compressor GMT but it's been discontinued. Thought I'd give the IWC Ingenieur GMT another try but the big Watches of Switzerland on Regent St don't stock it.

Sights are focussing in on the Explorer...
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Happy Labor Day.
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Dat new blue Lange chrono do.

 

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Originally Posted by Winot View Post

Tried it this lunchtime at the Omega showroom on New Bond Street. Didn't like it in the flesh - too big and shiny.

Popped into JLC to try the Master Compressor GMT but it's been discontinued. Thought I'd give the IWC Ingenieur GMT another try but the big Watches of Switzerland on Regent St don't stock it.

Sights are focussing in on the Explorer...

I am flying out of LHR Sunday to the US. Have just rung Watches of Switzerland - yes they do have the Exp. II in stock; no they can't reserve it for me, even if I put down a deposit; no, they can't even take the full amount by phone for me to pick up Sunday. Bizarre tax free rules I suppose. Fingers crossed it's still there Sunday.
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I now really really want one.
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I now really really want one.

Cant be that hard to find another stockist with the Exp II available.
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