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I do wonder how they managed to get the hands to appear to be "floating", without any kind of support! How do they keep on time - the stem doesn't seem to be attached to any kind of rotor?

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I do wonder how they managed to get the hands to appear to be "floating", without any kind of support! How do they keep on time - the stem doesn't seem to be attached to any kind of rotor?

 

If it is like other floating watches, I think the sapphire actually turns and the hands are just affixed to that.  I read about them a few years ago as the history is neat on these kinds of watches.

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If it is like other floating watches, I think the sapphire actually turns and the hands are just affixed to that.  I read about them a few years ago as the history is neat on these kinds of watches.

That's what I was going to suggest. 

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So what, there's actually 2 superposed crystals? One for the minute and and one for the hour hand? I'm afraid it's too complicated for my understanding! :D

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Out of the Spanish blue...

There's that beauty again inlove.gif
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So what, there's actually 2 superposed crystals? One for the minute and and one for the hour hand? I'm afraid it's too complicated for my understanding! :D

 

I believe it is sapphire crystal disc that rotate which give the appearance of floating hands.  Cartier has been making mystery clock versions for more than 100 years.

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Went to my friend's preown shop during lunch time and tried a few lovely pieces. I came to realise that there a paradigm shift in my taste for watches. I guess i'm starting to appreciate smaller watches 36mm-38mm. I don't know why but I really love how the size complement my wrist size and how it last through the times. Even my friend mention that why my purchase are moving backwards towards smaller watch instead of bigger watches.


I tried the blue lange 1 on my wrist and it seems so huge? coming from a guy that was used to wearing 44-47mm Pam and ROO 42mm.
Try my best to like it but still the blue seem so flat... I guess the lange 1 just isn't my cup of tea.



Well this vacheron is just another story, while looking at online pictures, the power reserve just seem so out of place and it seem that the design doesn't complements the circular date and sub sec. probably why I didn't like the JLC power reserve range. They are using the same calibre I think. But wearing it in flesh, I was taken aback of how balance it looks. Certainly better than the dual time regulator that I post earlier.


Lastly, I tried is beautiful vintage PP. Its a 1980s piece and yet still so timeless. Certainly something I would like to own when the time comes when I feel that I only need one watch.

Well, my perception of small watches certainly changed, and starting to know why u folks appreciate these below 40mm watches..
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Try my best to like it but still the blue seem so flat... I guess the lange 1 just isn't my cup of tea.
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Well, my perception of small watches certainly changed, and starting to know why u folks appreciate these below 40mm watches..

 

I find the blue and black dials on Lange 1s are a bit lifeless.  I greatly prefer the Lange 1s with silver dials.  

 

Interesting to see your perspective about more modestly sized watches has changed.  I look forward to seeing how that affects your future purchases.  :cheers:

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Gents,
 
I have had a few PMs asking about the service intervals and the rumored "Delicacy" of the RO Jumbo with ultra thin movement cal 2120/2121 vs. cal 3120 which is found in the 15400 and the previous model 15300.  After speaking to AP's service center, a few AP owners with longer ownership experience than I have, and one who has strong connections to AP, and has owned watches with both calibers here is what I have learned:

 

The expected service interval is the same for the 15202, 15300, and 15400.  In fact, AP anticipates service intervals range from 4-6 years for all of their models.  Interestingly, although cal 2121  has fewer parts than caliber 3120, the ultra thin movement is a more difficult movement to manufacture, to assemble (it is produced in the high complications department) and to service.  As the ultra thin is more difficult to assemble and service, the cost of servicing it is a bit more.  
 
A few things owners told me.  One has owned his Jumbo since 2008 and it runs well and has not been serviced yet.  His friend has owned a Jumbo since 2007, and he got it serviced and there were no unexpected parts that had to be replaced, and the cost was on par with what one would expect from a company such as AP, PP, or VC.   Another owner of watch powered by cal 2121 had gotten about 10 years of wear before his needed a service and there was nothing unusual about the repair.  Others said, because of the ultra thin design of 2120/2121 its not a movement for an amateur to have a go at...only AP should work on it.  There were a few stories of watches that had not be serviced in 30-40 years costing a few thousands dollars to overhaul, but those were rare circumstances.
 
People who owned ROs with both Cal 2121 and 3120 said they wore the watches for all of the same types of activities without any experiencing problems with either one.  
 
Also, if you check the owners manuals online, which can be downloaded from AP's website, the advice about service regarding the 15202 and 15400 seems more concerned with making sure the watches are regularly pressure tested to make sure the gaskets are in good condition and able to keep moisture out, than they are about how often the watches require service .  
 
So in the end, although 3120 is more modern and technically might seem like a more rugged design, there is no reason to be afraid of cal 2121 as there are no special requirements for service intervals, nor is it considered particularly fragile.  Anyway, I hope this helps others who may consider purchasing a watch powered by cal 2120/2121 in the future.
 
 
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"Aftermarket" Cyclopes on my SeaDweller to admire Rolex's 1.

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^^ really love the cyclops' shape! 

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Very organic and fluid-like, right?? :smarmy:

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Very organic and fluid-like, right?? :smarmy:

 

FAKE! :smarmy:

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FAKE! :smarmy:

haha! No....aftermarket! :slapfight:

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Very organic and fluid-like, right?? :smarmy:

 

Now that you mention it, I can't erase the thought I've had! 

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