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Perhaps I am not destined to be a collector; to feel this way about more than a 3+1 collection could easily grow maddening. I also feel that this will require me to feel a similar sense of value and enjoyment from each watch; to ensure that I have little cause to favor (or not) one over the others.

 

I learned a long time ago that 4 seemed the be the most watches I could have an easily keep them all running and rotate through them with a great deal of regularity.  That hasn't stopped me from going beyond that number.  I've just learned to live with resetting watches if I don't wear them for a while.  

 

I know some people like the idea of watch winders, but I don't.  To me they only make sense maybe if someone has an incredibly complicated watch.  Years ago I asked a watch maker his thoughts on watch winders.  His response was, "When you aren't driving your car, do you leave it running all day long? No?  Then why have your watch running all the time if you aren't wearing it?" His main point was why should one put wear and tear on the movement if you don't have to.  Now that wear and tear is probably very minor, but I can live with resetting my watches when necessary.  However, if one is going to use a watch winder, it should be a very secure safe set up.  Years ago, someone relayed a story about their Vacheron getting damaged, when it fell off of a winding unit and part of the winder continued to hit the case for the next day or so until he discovered it.  There were some nasty scrapes in the case from where it had repeatedly made contact.

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Some Batman action to brighten everyone's Monday.


nice one. trying to decide between this and the white daytona, which I recall you have as well? which do you like better?
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Regarding the watch winder debate, I understand @Dino944's watchmaker's opinion (comparing it to a car that you don't leave running when not in use.). But I've also seen pro-winders enthusiasts who pushed the argument of gear oil and proper lubrication. They seem to believe that a watch, unused for a prolonged period, could suffer from gear oil drying and improper gear lubrication could occur.

 

Is this theory bro-science or possible fact? I mean, if a watch is water-resistant to 3-5 ATM, I'm sure it can keep the oil from evaporating/drying, right?

 

As for myself, I have 2 nice watch boxes and don't see the need for a winder.  

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nice one. trying to decide between this and the white daytona, which I recall you have as well? which do you like better?

Akeem,

I wanted to have SS Daytona for a few years and when I finally got it I was the happiest person.

After a few months I start to notice the following things:

- It was hard to read time at certain angles
- I was really missing Date complication
- not enough wrist presence
- not using Chrono complication at all


I almost sold it after 2-3 months of owning but decided to give it some more time but ended up selling it two weeks ago and got the BLNR.



Don't get me wrong, I still think Daytona is insane piece and might get it one day again but I don't miss it at all for the time being. BLNR is here to stay. It's incredible piece and the blue just pops and having GMT hand and Date complications is something that I use very often.

Good luck, you can't go wrong.
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Akeem,

I wanted to have SS Daytona for a few years and when I finally got it I was the happiest person.

After a few months I start to notice the following things:

- It was hard to read time at certain angles
- I was really missing Date complication
- not enough wrist presence
- not using Chrono complication at all


I almost sold it after 2-3 months of owning but decided to give it some more time but ended up selling it two weeks ago and got the BLNR.



Don't get me wrong, I still think Daytona is insane piece and might get it one day again but I don't miss it at all for the time being. BLNR is here to stay. It's incredible piece and the blue just pops and having GMT hand and Date complications is something that I use very often.

Good luck, you can't go wrong.

 

I was in the market for a Daytona a few months ago, but I heard about legibility issues from quite a few people. It seems to be less of an issue with the two-tone variants though. 

 

I also love the look of chronographs but never, ever use the complication. 

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Regarding the watch winder debate, I understand @Dino944's watchmaker's opinion (comparing it to a car that you don't leave running when not in use.). But I've also seen pro-winders enthusiasts who pushed the argument of gear oil and proper lubrication. They seem to believe that a watch, unused for a prolonged period, could suffer from gear oil drying and improper gear lubrication could occur.

 

Is this theory bro-science or possible fact? I mean, if a watch is water-resistant to 3-5 ATM, I'm sure it can keep the oil from evaporating/drying, right?

 

As for myself, I have 2 nice watch boxes and don't see the need for a winder.  

As with anything there is often more than one side to an argument.  I have heard the idea of oil drying up and as you describe it improper gear lubrication occurring.  However, as you pointed out, I also considered the idea that if a watch is water resistant to 3atm or more, I am not sure how accurate it is that it would dry up...its not water.  I suppose it could become a bit more gel like over time...but realistically some watches, such as Rolex don't need a service for 5-7 years...during that time alone running or not I would think oil could dry up or become a bit more gel like regardless of use.  

 

Beyond that, dealers sell watches all the time that sit in their show cases for long periods of time, some times years at a time.  Yet when someone comes in to buy a watch that has been sitting in their inventory unused for a long time, they don't say well its hardly been used for the last 2 years so it should go in for a service.  Neither Rolex, Omega or any other companies have policies recommending and giving a free service for a piece that sat around for a long time (although that can be marketing, no one wanting to admit some piece sit unpurchased for a year or more).  Anyway, people purchase these pieces that sat and they go on their way wearing them, often until they are keeping such poor time that it has to go in for service...which is usually several years down the road.     

 

In the end I'm sure there is some truth to each argument.  We all have to decide what is right for us.   

 

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I was in the market for a Daytona a few months ago, but I heard about legibility issues from quite a few people. It seems to be less of an issue with the two-tone variants though. 

 

I also love the look of chronographs but never, ever use the complication. 

I think the legibility of the SS and of the Tutones was better when the subdials were black or white.  I think the silver or gold colored subdials are a bit tougher to read.  However, legibility has always been better with white dials, regardless of the metal (I've owned variations of each), yet I greatly prefer black dial Daytonas.  

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Explorer II at the beach....
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I noticed Jordan Spieth was wearing one in a press conference this morning. Good company!
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read similar comments about the daytona. it's always looked so good in pictures though. it does feel a bit small, but that's expected since I've been wearing panerai for a while. and the blnr is a looker as well. tried it on a couple times and I'm leaning towards the blue.
then I start thinking that if I'm willing to drop 12k on a daytona, then I should just get an AP RO.
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read similar comments about the daytona. it's always looked so good in pictures though. it does feel a bit small, but that's expected since I've been wearing panerai for a while. and the blnr is a looker as well. tried it on a couple times and I'm leaning towards the blue.
then I start thinking that if I'm willing to drop 12k on a daytona, then I should just get an AP RO.


I like Pams, had 000 and 111. I got on the list at Panerai AD for the new Paneristi edition PAM 634 but cancelled it yesterday as I found out more about this watch and really in shock:

- spring bars and snap back case lowering WR to 100m

- bezel being part of the case (integrated), so it can't be replaced on its own.


I'm currently saving for PP 5711 (already have a deposit put down) and absolutely love AP RO 15400.
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@Keith T - love the summer choices and the thought process.  I have yet to switch out my divers on bracelets to their RubberB's.  I'm going to blame the relatively mild onset of summer heat/humidity here in the NYC area for not giving me enough of a kick in the pants just yet to switch out.  Also, not complaining about weather in the 80s versus the 90s/100s.  Not complaining at all.

 

 

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Shout out to fellow watch enthusiast @Epaulet for this Exp II picture, but also for the fantastic selection and service via his SF-affiliate shop.  I've bugged him many, many times over the last few years (most recently for several pairs of tennis and sport trainers), and I'm always amazed at his responsiveness, as well as that of his team's.  Bravo!

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I'm currently saving for PP 5711 (already have a deposit put down) and absolutely love AP RO 15400.

 

Here's wishing that you get that beauty sooner rather than later.  What a keeper.  I only wish I was as skilled as I am now (I am still not as good as @Dino944 the Watch Ninja) in terms of avoiding nicks and scratches when I first got my 5711 years ago.

 

Speaking of the Nautilus, here's a pic of a relatively rare black dial 3711 in white gold that a friend of mine shared.  He is in Hong Kong doing some watch shopping, and he's likely to grab this piece.  Says the heft is quite nice.  It's about 1mm smaller than the 5711, and aside from a few other differences that non-watch-nerds won't appreciate (two piece case instead of the 5711's three piece case), the only thing that I quite like more about the new 5711s would be the sweeping seconds hand, which is missing from these earlier models.  

 

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  His response was, "When you aren't driving your car, do you leave it running all day long? No?  Then why have your watch running all the time if you aren't wearing it?" His main point was why should one put wear and tear on the movement if you don't have to.  Now that wear and tear is probably very minor, but I can live with resetting my watches when necessary. 

 

Interesting, I had heard that generally it's better to keep a watch running. Not from a watchmaker though, so your source is likely better than mine..

 

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I don't know your friend, but that's the watch for him. Tell hem to DO IT!!

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Here's wishing that you get that beauty sooner rather than later.  What a keeper.  I only wish I was as skilled as I am now (I am still not as good as @Dino944
 the Watch Ninja) in terms of avoiding nicks and scratches when I first got my 5711 years ago.

Speaking of the Nautilus, here's a pic of a relatively rare black dial 3711 in white gold that a friend of mine shared.  He is in Hong Kong doing some watch shopping, and he's likely to grab this piece.  Says the heft is quite nice.  It's about 1mm smaller than the 5711, and aside from a few other differences that non-watch-nerds won't appreciate (two piece case instead of the 5711's three piece case), the only thing that I quite like more about the new 5711s would be the sweeping seconds hand, which is missing from these earlier models.  
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3711 is out of this world in WG.
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read similar comments about the daytona. it's always looked so good in pictures though. it does feel a bit small, but that's expected since I've been wearing panerai for a while. and the blnr is a looker as well. tried it on a couple times and I'm leaning towards the blue.
then I start thinking that if I'm willing to drop 12k on a daytona, then I should just get an AP RO.

Almost any of the watches you are considering well seem small compared to Panerais, which essentially use extra large cases.  

Still any of the others you are considering are great watches.  All are different, but wonderful pieces in their own way.   

I own each and I really like all of them.  I find the AP the most versatile, but I also love the BLNR and Daytonas.

Try them on and see which one makes you smile the most!  Good luck!

 

 

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Speaking of the Nautilus, here's a pic of a relatively rare black dial 3711 in white gold that a friend of mine shared.  He is in Hong Kong doing some watch shopping, and he's likely to grab this piece.  Says the heft is quite nice.  It's about 1mm smaller than the 5711, and aside from a few other differences that non-watch-nerds won't appreciate (two piece case instead of the 5711's three piece case), the only thing that I quite like more about the new 5711s would be the sweeping seconds hand, which is missing from these earlier models.  

Its never too late to work on your Ninja watch skills ;)

 

I think if you look closely, you will see there is a second hand pointing at the 27 minute marker.  It simply looks black because the angle the watch is being held at isn't allowing it to catch the light.  I believe the only men's time only Nautilus that does not have a second hand are the very earliest models  (from the late 70s to the early 80s), which at least in steel has ref number 3700.  The 3700 , much like the AP Jumbo and VC 222 doesn't have a second hand as they all use the same base movement, the JLC 920.  Once Patek switched the Nautilus to using in house movements, they got a second hand.  Although, like most things Patek that are discontinued, those 3700's without a second hand are highly sought after and sell for a heck of a lot more than when they were new.    


Edited by Dino944 - 7/8/15 at 9:31am
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Its never too late to work on your Ninja watch skills ;)

 

I think if you look closely, you will see there is a second hand pointing at the 27 minute marker.  It simply looks black because the angle the watch is being held at isn't allowing it to catch the light.  I believe the only men's time only Nautilus that does not have a second hand are the very earliest models  (from the late 70s to the early 80s), which at least in steel has ref number 3700.  The 3700 , much like the AP Jumbo and VC 222 doesn't have a second hand as they all use the same base movement, the JLC 920.  Once Patek switched the Nautilus to using in house movements, they got a second hand.  Although, like most things Patek that are discontinued, those 3700's without a second hand are high sought after and sell for a heck of a lot more than when they were new.    

 

There's a sweeping seconds hand!

 

Well, he's purchased it already. :smarmy:

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