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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

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There will always be some common ground between TWATs and douches; I don't think it's a big deal.
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which reminds me, i mentioned something similar to the following to derek, and wanted to ask ya'll the same.

if someone offered you any car you wanted, up to 200k, or any watch you wanted up to 50k, what would you choose? and no, you cant sell the car or the watch.

hands down id get the watch. without a second thought.


That's a good question 200k$ would be able to cover most if not all cost involved in getting a Nissan C10 GTR, which is highly collectible and unicorn rare outside of japan.

50k$ watch would get me a solid rose gold LW Spido.
 

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Gosh, that is a tough one Stitch. I am going to have to say watch in this instance. But that is primarily due to maintenance costs. I have a feeling that maintaining a $200,000 vehicle is no joke.
id do it even if maintenance costs were $0.
The man said "any watch".
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correct. same for cars. either way, i liked your answer, lol. and will gladly help you find a watch if you fid yourself in that situation. -- sidebar - the fake AP i posted, we didnt mention to the customer it was fake we just said without box and papers we cant buy it. he said ok and picked up the watch today. neither of us nor him made any mention of it being fake. lawlz.
 

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The man said "any watch".
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I'm not complaining, it just makes the decision on which watch that much more difficult. It's nice to live in fantasy (Frilly?) land every now and again.
 

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okay a little topical cause we segued into cars

But this was the controversial ad for AM, and someone out there was wondering if it would make a good advertisement for pre-owned watches. I'm ashamed to admit it came from a mind of a Paneristi (not me though!!)

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Wasn't it a surprise? Yes, there were 5711s in WG, even YG I believe (on a strap) but never a platinum.
Years ago, they did make the Nautilus in all yellow gold on a yellow gold bracelet. That was well before model 5711 existed.
Sorry of this is a total n0b question, but how difficult in person is it to tell apart platinum/WG/steel/titanium?
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As Stitchy pointed out titanium is very easy to tell from SS, WG, and Platinum. Its gray, and has a very different texture/feel and its very light weight. In terms of WG, in its natural state it can be told from SS and Platinum, as its really a dark gray color. What makes it difficult to tell apart from Platinum, is that many companies plate white gold with Rhodium (another white precious metal) to make it look like a white metal rather than gray. There are some companies that changed the alloys they use so they do not need to plate it with rhodium and it still looks very white. In the end, the weight is a very telling sign of what metal you are looking at if you were to put a steel Daytona, next to a WG Daytona and a Platinum Daytona. I had a white gold Daytona years ago and got rid of it. It seemed like a lot of $$$ to have tied up in a watch that really didn't look different enough to me from my SS Daytona. Sure I knew it was gold, but the fact that it didn't look very different and it is not as rare or heavy as platinum caused me to tire of it quickly. If I were buying a Daytona in gold, I'd go for it in rose with a black dial...platinum would be amazing...it must weigh a ton...but I'm not really a fan of the ceramic bezel on it. I wish they had given it metal trim around the bezel as on the old manual wind Daytonas.
Indeed. But a collection is best shown on the ... wrist, I think.
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Awesome collection of Rolex Submariners!
Platinum Nautilus... holy crap!

PCLs — I'd prefer the current GMT II with a fully-brushed finish, but I wouldn't the polished part of the bracelet put me off a great watch. The steel Daytona has become my favourite watch to wear, but there's no doubt that the centre links show everything. However, any marks it might pick up are far more obvious in photos and on one's own wrist. Swapping watches with someone else is a good way to see how it actually looks, and shows you just how unnoticeable the scuffs really are. It's an absolutely great watch to wear, and after half a year, its 3-day power reserve has run down about twice... which tells you how neglected some of my other stuff is. The 4130 movement has been scary-accurate, too.

On the other extreme, the Reverso has barely been worn, especially after the cushion-case GP showed up. Its thickness, complexity and all-polished case make for a watch that I'm a bit more conscious of wearing than others. Or maybe it's just not my style. But the Daytona is an easy choice, since I find that the only rule of wearing it is that there aren't really any rules. It goes with anything, whether clothing- or activity-wise.

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If I had any sense, I'd dump everything else go with those two... though it would be too tough to narrow it down to one.
A Nautilus in platinum is about as amazing as one can get! The sheer weight and feel must be incredible.

Glad to hear the Daytona is serving you well. For a sports watch it really is very versatile. For about 5 years I used one as my daily wearer. It took whatever punishment I could dish out and was always dead on accurate! I think we could all look at our collections and narrow them to 2 pieces if we had to...but it would be so freakin tough!
I hate to say it though. If it was between Kate Upton and a platinum Nautilus. I may have to take the latter.
I'd have to take the Platinum Nautilus also. Kate would provide some great memories no doubt, but in 30+ years she'll probably look like some old slag, and the Nautilus will still be beautiful.
As for me, paying MSRP for a new platinum Rolex might not be the wisest move. Also, steel is my metal. I just want check one out because of the sheer dislike it gets from some internet people. Tremendously tough to top these two, though:



They were actually pretty fun to play with.
Those two are hideous! I've never been a fan of the original Yachtmaster, but the YM2 is makes me want to puke!
Some random thoughts about our ongoing conversation (but im too lazy to dig up quotes)

2. The appeal of a no date sub? Going waay back to the Forbes article on 3 types or 3 stages of rolex ownership, I used to be in the camp of eh rolex is overrated blahblahblah. Now my thoughts have changed. While Rolex may cater to flashier types, there is an undeniable truth the submariner is a beautiful watch. The longevity alone should tell us something else is going on here--that its more than a passing fad.

I only realized this when I saw it in the wild at a restaurant, and then when I tried it on. Now mind you, I do not like the newer versions with the wide lugs and the ceramic bezel. I am talking about older ones with slim lugs (think 5513, 1680, 14060) and the beauty lies in the proportions. Its really perfect. The appeal of the no date sub is contained right there. Symmetry is an integral part of the overall balance/proportions. While at the same time, the date bubble is iconic, there is something about the unspoiled dial of a perfectly balanced submariner that is just....
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Moreover, I think within a broader context, you can get a date window on ANOTHER rolex, (in my case a pepsi GMT, or in yours a DSSD) and save the symmetry for a no date sub. This is more applicable to collector than a one time purchaser, but I thought id just throw this out there.
+1. I have grown to appreciate the symmetry of non-Date Subs. However, my appreciation of it is really only for the vintage models with slimmer lugs. I tried on a new SubC no-Date, and it has some nice feature, but it just left me feeling cold. Its a nice watch, but I had no real desire to pull the trigger on it.
 

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First post to say how very much I enjoy this thread. And not just the candid photographs.
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Hope I can make an occasional contribution -- this is my beater, which I've worn at least a couple days a week over the 10 or so years since my wife gave it to me. Was by far the nicest thing I'd ever owned in my life at that point. I'm a big guy, but it's never felt too small at 36 mm and I enjoy the simplicity and consistency of the hands and batons. Also like that the dial has the faintest hint of gold in it (exaggerated here by the lousy white balance in the lousy phone photo, sorry), which every now and then has made me think of putting it on a brown strap. But I think I'll keep it how I got it.




Thanks again. I've learned a lot lurking around here and had a few good chuckles along the way!
 

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@ dino - thanks for elaborating on the metal differences. i was on my phone posting before bed and was too lazy to write it out. :embar:
 
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First post to say how very much I enjoy this thread. And not just the candid photographs.
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Hope I can make an occasional contribution -- this is my beater, which I've worn at least a couple days a week over the 10 or so years since my wife gave it to me. Was by far the nicest thing I'd ever owned in my life at that point. I'm a big guy, but it's never felt too small at 36 mm and I enjoy the simplicity and consistency of the hands and batons. Also like that the dial has the faintest hint of gold in it (exaggerated here by the lousy white balance in the lousy phone photo, sorry), which every now and then has made me think of putting it on a brown strap. But I think I'll keep it how I got it.




Thanks again. I've learned a lot lurking around here and had a few good chuckles along the way!

Welcome friend. While it always feels good to be able to "contribute" nobody should ever feel that's a prerequisite!!

Lovely datejust btw, go ahead with the brown strap experiment too
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Welcome friend. While it always feels good to be able to "contribute" nobody should ever feel that's a prerequisite!!

Lovely datejust btw

Thank you. I've got lots of opinions too, if there's ever a sudden shortage of those.
 

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Welcome! Thank you for your contribution, a great first post by any measure! I look forward to you joining our little debates and discussions.

We have some unbelievable posters here, and I have learned about how diamonds are graded, about the history of AP as a manufacture, and to how to rapidly purchase two Patek grand complications within a span of a couple months (do I even need to say who, hmmm :D).

Another perspective is always a bonus.
 

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Me too, and here's why:

A $200k car looks like a $200k car. Even in a subtle colour, without any extraneous badges, spoilers or other nonsense, it looks to everyone you drive past, everyone in the mall car park or traffic jam, and everyone who passes your house or place of work, like a $200k car. It's an announcement to the whole world that you have $200k to blow on something you probably can't use to a quarter of its capacity, just because. Essentially, it is a bold and ostentatious declaration of uber-doucheness.

However, with my $50k, I will set Sherlock Stitch to work to find me a dream deal on a dream used platinum Lange. Not only will it bring me enormous pleasure, and get used to its full purpose, only I, a small group of TWATters, and certain close friends who might be interested, will know it cost $50k. What's more, unlike the douchemobile, it will not depreciate by 80% in the next few years, and is likely to become even more desirable and even more valuable during my, my son's, and God willing, my grandsons' lifetimes.

Yep, done deal. Did I win?

If not, I'll take a no date Sub very happily too, new or vintage I don't care. Although ironically, as it's so iconic, it would be far more noticeably ostentatious to most people than my $50k dream above...
I think your example presumes that everyone would purchase a brand new flashy car, all blinged out with 20 in chrome rims, wings, spoilers, etc. A car person could say, well who wants some goofy, oversized, overprice rubberized hunk of jewelry...thinking that you would buy something like a multicolor Hublot. Just as you chose a pre owned Lange, someone could choose a pre-owned classic car that isn't all blinged out, and have something that isn't headed down the depreciation curve. In fact some classics are either quite stable or go up in value. Sure when I see someone driving a totally tricked out MB, BMW, Audi, Ferrari, etc I think what a waste of a car and the driver must be an attention seeking goofball. However, when I see a beautiful car older car on the road on a sunny day, I just enjoy looking at it, and I appreciate the effort it takes to keep something like that looking and running its best.

As for value during someone's life time or passing it on, have you seen what a Ferrari 250GTO goes for today? I saw an interview, a guy bought one in the 1970s, for about $12,000 and the motor wasn't running. He had it fixed and drove it for a few years. He sold it for I think $50K in the late 1970s to finance some other venture and figured he would buy it back or buy another. He said he never figured it would become so valuable that he would not be able to buy it back. Today...if you can find one that an owner will part with they are about $30-35 Million. Even a 1964 Aston Martin DB5, which could have been bought used in the 1980s for about $20-25K....those are now $500-600K all day long.

I can see what people appreciate about cars and watches, provided they are the right watches and cars.
 
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