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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post
 

Wrist time is a good point Frills.  You have a Sub and two DSSD's which are a fraction of the YG Sub price and sound like a more go to for the beach/protecting daughters from the world/Batman things type.  You have a nice stable and do you want a chuck of gold just sitting there looking pretty but something you pass up for a more durable or activity specific piece?  Tough decision but it makes sense.

 

Since I am studying for the CPA exam (and passing will coincide with my 30th birthday), I joked with my wife about getting a milestone item once it is done.  She has given me the green light to "get whatever" be it watch, shoes, or the BMW 2002tii I have been eyeing.  While a Daytona would be the front runner, I think she knows that there are other things I would rather do with $12K around the house.  I think a Daytona will be some other milestone down the road but I doubt I will have this opportunity for a while with kids in our not too distant future.  Something with an adjustable clasp like the Sub could persuade me as we could both wear it and it is both of our 30th's.  Hmmmm just thinking out loud.

 

Best wishes on the upcoming CPA exam and the 30th birthday to boot! It took the missus and I almost a decade before we decided to have kids, but once we got around to it we never looked back... and celebrated milestones with stuff that meant something to both of us, budgets permitting.  

 

For the wife and I, the glidelock clasp feature of the modern Subs/SDs rendered the process of adjusting the bracelet length all of 1/4" really convenient.  With that said, she has been "confined" to wearing "her" 116610LV which now has scratches on pretty much every single surface, except the bezel and crystal. Rolex was serious about how that cerachrom and sapphire crystal are rather scratch-resistant!

 

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@no frills I admit I felt envious when you referred to your watches as 'our watches' and 'we sold it' (referring to your wife and yourself)! Wish I could share this passion of mine with my wife also - or maybe not, since I often baby my favorite/more expensive pieces and she doesn't baby anything, regardless of price! 

 

Oh man, my wife is brutal with her watches.  I've learned to "work around it" by having her wear ones with leather straps (otherwise the bracelet surfaces would invariably get scratched up) and parts made of tougher material (like cerachrom bezel inserts and sapphire crystals).  She literally caught me over lunch turning her wrist over and looking at her Aquanaut... She laughed and knew I was looking at the watch's battle scars!

 

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Frilly, you are our king. Now man up and act like it!

You will wear this for early evening drinks with friends, date night (preferably with your wife), school reunions, unexpected short notice weekend brunch, coffee at the marina, and also posing for TWAT. I suspect it will be the SD and Subs that give up a little space.

Ker-Ching. Feel better?

 

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Cruising on your friends yachts, resort meals and pool lounging, anytime you pick chlorine over salt water, Sunday drives, coffee shop afternoons anywhere with cobblestone streets and la Bella figura...

 

Consider me "usage-enabled." :fonz:

 

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My man!

Frilly, do you see the LIGHT?

 

That light reflects really well of an all YG surface, @mimo.......

 

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Speaking of PAMs, I have small wrists and can't fit larger than 42x48mm.

 

Here's a photo of my PAMs - 512 & 048.

 

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That's a fantastic pic!

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Cruising on your friends yachts, resort meals and pool lounging, anytime you pick chlorine over salt water, Sunday drives, coffee shop afternoons anywhere with cobblestone streets and la Bella figura...

Sitting on your yacht, smoking a cigar. Walking around Mayfair (or equivalent) smoking a cigar. Browsing antiques, smoking a cigar. Taking your 'niece' to dinner, and smoking a cigar. Do you see a theme emerging? Some of these events may be a while away but this is an investment - that watch will only get more expensive.
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@mimo Oh man, you're way too good at this enabling business. Last time you did this I walked away with the JLC MUT with the small seconds (which is also why I'm reluctant to go the "boring" route - have my favourite one of those already)...as it stands, the second Breguet classique (5277, apparently) looks the most promising - plain enough to be a dress watch, but the guilloche dial and the minor complications balance out the space left by the thin hands and numerals. Or maybe just because it's the most similar to the Journe... But that is definitely one to try - time to find a carrier! Thanks!

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Yeah, that's definitely one that stood out of the pack to me: Breguet is a huge name of course, but doesn't have the same instant recognition among non watch lovers. Yet it's so distinctive, isn't it?  The dial and layout reminded me of their $250k minute repeater that I had the pleasure of fiddling with a year or so ago.  Definitely ticks the "special" box, without being obvious.  I hope it works on your wrist!

 

N.B. The one I posted was on at $13k from Italy.  Not bad, eh?

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Rolex Headache number 2: I've just noticed that in certain light, at a particular angle, I can see a faint milky smudge on the inside surface of the crystal.

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Wishing you luck with your CPA exam.  Also nice to hear you can commemorate the occasion with something special.  Sure you could do a watch, and she may get some wear out of it.  As most of our regulars are solely watch enthusiasts while I'm into both watches and cars, my vote would be for the 2002tii.  No depreciation, in fact many of these classics keep appreciating in value, and with a back seat its something you and your wife can both appreciate and take on adventures, even when there are kids in the picture.  Mrs. Dino appreciates my watch collecting, has learned a lot about watches ( at this point generally knowing more than most SAs we encounter) , she enjoys going with me to the watch stores and trying things on , and learning about the various pieces, however I can tell you on a nice day, she would much rather be in one of our fun cars, going for a drive to lunch/dinner, driving with a pod of our car enthusiast friends, enjoying the scenery on a beautiful country road, or going to a vintage car show where were have met so many wonderful people and made some great friends. Unless your wife were to start participating on a watch forum, a watch is a much more solitary less social choice .  Nothing wrong with that, in fact you both might prefer that - not sure.  In addition, I grew up around cars and I have some very fond memories of going places in some of the fun cars my parent had, and as a teenager detailing them and doing things with them with my dad.  I also enjoyed shopping for watches with my dad when I was old, but that is a different type of adventure. 

 

The 2002tii doesn't use any computer controlled stuff, so if you are handy, you could do some of the maintenance -keeping expenses down.  The downsides are the insurance will be more than to insure a watch (although you may want to look into collector insurance), and space...you really have to have a garage for cars like that.  In addition, if going down that path, be sure to get a pre-purchase inspection to make sure that you are getting what you think you are paying for and there are no surprises.  I guess I like to mix both hobbies a bit, so for me a drive with the Mrs. and friends to a great destination while wearing a beautiful watch...is often the perfect day for me.  

 

Anyway, as someone who dabbles in both hobbies, I can see the appeal of both options, and each sounds like a fantastic idea.  Good luck with whatever you decide. 

 

 

Space and insurance wouldn't be a problem here.  The lack of computer controls is what I really love about older cars.  As technology takes over more of our lives, I find myself wanting to get away with from technology and just appreciate everything.  While my GTI is a base/6sp, there are still enough driving controls to really take away the soul of driving.   

 

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Rolex Headache number 2: I've just noticed that in certain light, at a particular angle, I can see a faint milky smudge on the inside surface of the crystal.

:sigh:

 

This made me laugh.  We look at our watches so much and we just want them to be perfect.  I need to wipe mine down after 8 miles of kayaking down a local river in town.

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Outside of dress watches, I have just learned to appreciate the wear and tear that comes with wearing and enjoying a watch. Perfection is boring in a watch that is meant to be worn in everyday life IMO. I'm pretty active and rough on my own body, I want my sports watch to reflect that. I think that's why I appreciate Frills so much, the dude wears the heck out of his watches. But of course, different strokes for different folks.
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Anybody have any experience with Dornbluths?  Got to handle a few pieces this weekend and was very impressed for the price point.

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Space and insurance wouldn't be a problem here.  The lack of computer controls is what I really love about older cars.  As technology takes over more of our lives, I find myself wanting to get away with from technology and just appreciate everything.  While my GTI is a base/6sp, there are still enough driving controls to really take away the soul of driving.   

Yes, it's the simplicity and back to basics that makes my late 80's car so much fun.  The simplicity found in a lot of older cars is very appealing to sports car enthusiasts and its the reason values and interest in older cars have been steadily rising  in recent years.  There is a satisfaction that comes from a them being less computer controlled and requiring a more active role on the part of the driver.  Many older cars are also from a time when companies had more hand workmanship, and were less cookie cutter in terms of designs.  Today cars often seem so generic (even expensive ones) that you could almost slap any badge on them and no one would no the difference. Wishing you luck with your decision.

 

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Anybody have any experience with Dornbluths?  Got to handle a few pieces this weekend and was very impressed for the price point.

Nice, but I don't love them enough that I'd ever consider pulling the trigger on one.   

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Right then!  So 38mm is the sweet spot?  Of course they all wear differently on the wrist, but here's a list* from your estimated comfort zone:


 

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Boring Patek Philippe Calatrava - but the crosshairs small seconds make this one for me.  Just enough personality.

 

Boring Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Traditionelle - but I love the solidity of the case within its compact proportions, and the almost sporty feel of the minute track and subdial.

 

Marginally Less Boring Patrimony Traditionele Auto - I'm not a fan of a simple date on a dress watch, but with the 9 o'clock seconds subdial, it adds some nice visual interest

 

Boring Lange Saxonia Auto - but very subtly German with those strong hands and the slightly deeper case

 

Boring Lange 1815 - it's a lovely size in the 38.5mm version, and with the deck watch style Arabic numbers and the blued hands, has a lot of personality for me.  

 

Breguet Classique - Swatch's leading boring watch.  The distinctive hands and case shape say  a lot.

 

More Interesting Breguet Classique - the addition of some very Breguet guilloche on the dial, the small seconds and power reserve, make this a feast.  You said uncomplicated, but this might have the personality you need.

 

Blancpain Villeret - Swatch's second tier.  This one's maybe a bit plain, even with the date, but it's certainly not obvious to the casual observer, and has plenty of history.

 

Girard Perregaux Classique Elegance 1966 - a sportier case with nice proportions, feuille hands and that blued second hand, all adds up nicely to me

 

Girard Perregaux Classique Elegance 1966 (2) - but here's an easy way to be different: blue sunburst dial on gold really sings (see Frilly's latest above!)

 

Piaget Altiplano - a bit of a sleeper from the House of Richemont, Piaget has a really distinctive style with those hair-thin markers and hands.  I like the bigger one with the asymmetric small seconds, but this is as pure a dress watch as you can get, and like no other I think.

 

Chopard L.U.C Quattro - if you can tolerate a bit more going on, then the dial on this is lovely, with the date subdial similar to the JLC you mentioned.  Is the power reserve too much?  I like it - still dressy but one you could stare at for hours.

 

Moser & Cie Mayu - I have to mention that I can proxy some good deals on remaining clearance stock from my AD in these!  The Monard with centre seconds might also suit.  Several different dial and case colours; exquisite workmanship.

 

Jaeger LeCoultre MUT Moon - you know about this.  If it's the one you like..then why not?  For the sake of a millimeter?

 

JLC Master Control Ultra Thin - I found the steel version of this a bit underwhelming, but in gold it has a pleasing warmth.  Very subtle.

 

JLC Master Control - a general thought here: have you thought about a black dial?  To me it looks very special against rose gold - as does the blue GP above

 

JLC Geophysik - a bit of a wild card as it's technically a sports watch, but with this size, in gold, with those vintage-y colours and details on the dial, maybe?

 

 

Of course if you were to add or subtract a millimetre or two in your specifications, another whole world would open up.  But at 38mm, there's a lot going on.  Bear in mind also that every one of these above can be had under your nominal $20k budget, and some of them for less than half that.  Maybe see which really sings to you visually before checking the price, perhaps get a shortlist of a few you want to try on?  And depending on what you do like, there are one or two people here who specialise in finding the best deal(in stitches).

 

 

 

 

 

 

*All photos linked from Chrono24; various vendors

 

That is just an awe-inspiring list. Some beautiful watches there and some ones to think hard about.

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This made me laugh.  We look at our watches so much and we just want them to be perfect.  I need to wipe mine down after 8 miles of kayaking down a local river in town.

It does sound rather silly doesn't it. Haha.

I was more miffed at the possibility that the tecnitian assbling my watch at its service a few weeks ago may have handled the crystal with his bare fingers. Or worse, that the seals weren't doing their job in the shower.
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Oh great, come back here after a week or so and @mimo has set up a shopping list...

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

Right then!  So 38mm is the sweet spot?  Of course they all wear differently on the wrist, but here's a list* from your estimated comfort zone:

Boring Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Traditionelle - but I love the solidity of the case within its compact proportions, and the almost sporty feel of the minute track and subdial.

JLC Geophysik - a bit of a wild card as it's technically a sports watch, but with this size, in gold, with those vintage-y colours and details on the dial, maybe?

Having a Vacheron catalogue on my living room table (and my AD having a couple of those in store) doesn't help things, but that's on my ultimate list, although I have a few purchases before that one. One of them might be the Geophysic, since the sports watch thinking is still on. If Geophysic came with a metal bracelet, I'd probably have ordered already one instead of the Milgauss. Looks absolutely brilliant: low-key, quality item.
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And to think, that's only a list of rose gold dress watches of 38mm width available new for under $20k. This is one hell of a sport.
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Just inherited this Daytona - can anybody identify and tell more about it, probably want to sell, any idea about price?
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Just inherited this Daytona - can anybody identify and tell more about it, probably want to sell, any idea about price?
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that is fake.  The Daytona does not have a day or date function on their subdials.

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