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I can tell you that there have been a couple sitting in my local AD for a very long time indeed.  But it does mean I get to play with them.






But you'd have to be a very particular kind of rich dude to buy one, I think.  Either very impulsive and whimsical, or just a long way down your list of desirables.

My amateur opinion on indies is quite positive, though.  Firstly, of course not all indies are small - Rolex, the king of watch brands.  Breitling another with big brand presence.  But even with smaller ones, I think it's just a matter of balancing your risk - whether depreciation or long-term support - against the price bracket and the enjoyment you'll get from it.  I love my Stowa, with an ETA movement that will be supported forever, and a price that makes it easy to digest either way.  Troika's Sinn above, is the next step up and I think the same applies.  Nomos a bit more expensive, and technically in house, but they don't make particularly complicated watches and cost less than a Tag.  

So what the heck?  If you can afford a watch, want to keep it and wear it, and are attracted to a particular maker, then buy it.  I can see the residual value issue if you're the kind of person who buys and sells expensive watches.  But if you're just collecting a few that you like, I think the fear of depreciation or servicing for your grandchildren is low on the list of priorities: as long as it's not a watch for which you're having to break the bank.

Nice! That GMT is something else, 'no???
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The complexity of these beauties.

One can tell time with his mobile phone and one can choose to do it with his GF....those who don't get it, won't. 😊

Yes!
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Nice! That GMT is something else, 'no???

 

To think they could have just stuck in an extra hour hand, eh?  I do love the madness of it all.  Their display comes with a big magnifying thingy with which to admire it, a sort of desktop mega-loupe.  And some Meccano.  That I can't quite explain.

 

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Had to say good bye to my white dial 116520 Daytona last week. Will post some pics of my new incoming Swiss beauty icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Whao!! What the...???
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Whao!! What the...???


Yes, I let her go shog[1].gif


New hero is coming to town!


@tifosi knows his name lol
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Yes, I let her go shog[1].gif


New hero is coming to town!


@tifosi knows his name lol

I do and I'll never tell!

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Wow that's quite the piece to release. This is exciting smile.gif
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Wow that's quite the piece to release. This is exciting smile.gif

It was a hard decision and if you remember, I almost sold my Daytona 3-4 months ago... This time I was sure I made the right move. New SS Rolex + extra funds going towards AP nest.gif
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It was a hard decision and if you remember, I almost sold my Daytona 3-4 months ago... This time I was sure I made the right move. New SS Rolex + extra funds going towards AP nest.gif

So you went for the Batman? Didn't you just get your Daytona a few months ago? Already flipped it? I thought long and hard between BLNR and EXP II 42mm black face, something about the case of GMTc that doesn't sit well with me, it is a blocky case and doesn't sit well on my wrist, just like the SubC. So I went the SD4000 and Exp II route, covers water, land and still has a dual time zone!
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So you went for the Batman? Didn't you just get your Daytona a few months ago? Already flipped it? I thought long and hard between BLNR and EXP II 42mm black face, something about the case of GMTc that doesn't sit well with me, it is a blocky case and doesn't sit well on my wrist, just like the SubC. So I went the SD4000 and Exp II route, covers water, land and still has a dual time zone!

I got my Daytona almost a year ago. I always wanted one and sold my SubC Date for it.

I loved 116520 but after some time I started to notice some things such as:

hard to read time and too monochromatic

start to miss the date

not much wrist presence as I like


I didn't loose a single cent on it since I bought it at amazing price from my AD brand new (and able to do it again if I want to in the future).


I tried SD4000 and really liked it as well but need some splash of color for my next Crown. I have also set a goal to get myself AP 15400 shortly.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

 

My amateur opinion on indies is quite positive, though.  Firstly, of course not all indies are small - Rolex, the king of watch brands.  Breitling another with big brand presence.  But even with smaller ones, I think it's just a matter of balancing your risk - whether depreciation or long-term support - against the price bracket and the enjoyment you'll get from it.  I love my Stowa, with an ETA movement that will be supported forever, and a price that makes it easy to digest either way.  Troika's Sinn above, is the next step up and I think the same applies.  Nomos a bit more expensive, and technically in house, but they don't make particularly complicated watches and cost less than a Tag.  

 

So what the heck?  If you can afford a watch, want to keep it and wear it, and are attracted to a particular maker, then buy it.  I can see the residual value issue if you're the kind of person who buys and sells expensive watches.  But if you're just collecting a few that you like, I think the fear of depreciation or servicing for your grandchildren is low on the list of priorities: as long as it's not a watch for which you're having to break the bank.

Hi Mimo, you are correct Rolex is independent, as is AP, Patek, and others.  However, even AP which I think makes 30,000-40,000 watches has a strong presence compared to companies like JDN, Vincent Calabrese, Peter Speake-Marin etc. I think most times when people mention independents, I think of the smaller perhaps more artisan type companies such as Urwerk, Peter Speake-Marin, MB&F, or JDN  The issues of parts availability, service or resale don't apply to the bigger independents that you mentioned.  

 

I agree someone should buy what they like, otherwise why bother to purchase a mechanical watch.  

 

Others mentioned the ability to have a master watchmaker repair or even fabricate new parts.  That is certainly a possibility.  Actually, from what I have read, AP will work on and restore any watch it has ever made, and it will also repair or restore any watch deemed to be of horological significance (I believe it was wording to that effect...but that is not an exact quote).  I don't know how they define what is significant or worthy or their workmanship.  For those that can afford a watch from an independent that costs say $100K or more the cost of an expensive service including fabricating parts is probably not a big deal.    A $10,000 service bill would be rather unpleasant for anyone, but to the owner of the  $150,000+ watch it might be more affordable and easier to justify than if that same bill were presented to the owner of a $25,000 watch.  

 

I think the real issue for service if a company such as GF went out of business, would be finding a watchmaker that could work on such a complicated piece.  

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I got my Daytona almost a year ago. I always wanted one and sold my SubC Date for it.

I loved 116520 but after some time I started to notice some things such as:

hard to read time and too monochromatic

start to miss the date

not much wrist presence as I like


I didn't loose a single cent on it since I bought it at amazing price from my AD brand new (and able to do it again if I want to in the future).


I tried SD4000 and really liked it as well but need some splash of color for my next Crown. I have also set a goal to get myself AP 15400 shortly.

Thanks for sharing the decision process. Looking forward to pics of that new beauty soon!
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I think the real issue for service if a company such as GF went out of business, would be finding a watchmaker that could work on such a complicated piece.  

And that was precisely why I brought up the GF stats.
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Hanging out this weekend...hoover dam and grand Canyon



 

My scratch anxiety is back... :crazy:

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My scratch anxiety is back... :crazy:

 

No worries, safe and sound.

 

I'm going to London/Germany/Oregon in the next few weeks. Will try to post my watches in their natural habitats.

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PM'ed you a pic of me with the big guy for next time.  Thereby saving the thread a terrible pic smile.gif

This is so complicated; who not just use the 'secret' SF handshake next time?
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