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@Meurice: I agree re the enamel dial, as well as the Tiffany co-branding. Of the world timers out there, the 5130 is a classic (although the more contemporary resized version of the classic). I personally prefer it in Pt, since I like the dial more, but the WG is nice too.

This thread can occasionally become an echo-chamber, and for some there are certain brands that can do no wrong. Regardless of whether merited or not.

I judge watches one at a time, not by the brand. Some brands are more consistent than others; some brands trade on their name and marketing spend more than others. Even Patek has its share of duds, and frankly, its status, while oftentimes merited, is not the be-all-end-all for those who are horologically inclined. But branding is critical to some.

I suspect I may be one of those folks that certain people on this thread have written off and/or blocked, but that's not for lack of relevant content or input. Some people just don't like it when you call a spade a spade.
post #43757 of 48312
Not really, was in one In NJ not too long ago, no relationship, and as long as I was paying by cash or check was 20%. Trusted sellers on forums are selling watches coming straight from ADs at near 30% off. All depends how you want to acquire it.
post #43758 of 48312
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I love the stepped case shape. It's interesting, elegant, and it's curvature makes it very comfortable on the wrist.

Sadly, I don't love the dial. They have made variations of the Toldeo for at least 20 years, maybe more. The version from the early to mid 90's was smaller but had a more elegant dial and more elegant hour markers that alternated between 4 sided pyramids and I think modified triangles at 3,6,9, and 12. Also it was a manual wind and without a second hand. I think the lack of a second hand actually made the watch look much better. The next version was when they added the central seconds hand and a date window (Ugly on that watch). The next was a calendar watch, then this present watch.

I find the hour markers particularly the 6 & 12 a bit heavy handed. I also find on a dress watch like this, the seconds hand unnecessary, possibly making it more mundane ...something better suited for a sporty watch. I rarely think a central seconds hand looks good on square or rectangular watches. They should have a sub dial or no seconds hand at all.

I realize that is all stylistic, and ymmv.

As Mimo mentioned, on a watch of that price range, I'd prefer a more exclusive movement made specifically for this watch, and if possible a square or rectangular movement for this case. Then they might feel less compelled to hide it with a solid case back. The movement is certainly nice, but IIRC it's found in several of their watches. IMHO something in this price range should have a slugger more unique movement.

Overall, I love the case, but the details bother me. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Mimo- regarding the current Toledo's movement you know me too well. I'd rather it be a manual wind that is square or rectangular and made specifically for that watch case.

The Harmony is a piece I wanted to like as its an adventurous design. I love non-round watches, but this I don't love. I think the design of their 1921, better executed. This looks to me like with the success of the 1921 they decided to make a similar shape and then clutter it with sub dials that aren't really integrated well into the overall design. Perhaps they want them to stand out, but I am not in love with its execution. Also the crown & pusher of the chronograph look like they stick out way too far from the case. I could imagine it being annoying as it hits the back of one's hand throughout the day. So I'd opt for the 1921 if I were in the market for a watch with a cushion shape case. Cheers!

@Dino944 I understand your point re: preferring the cleaner, 2-hand, manually-wound version of the Toledo compared to the current 3-hand automatic. I think I would prefer a cleaner-dialled version, too. I suppose, having had one of these on the wrist, that I didn't have the strong negative reaction to the dial that you did. Sure, I don't like the three-hand date version as much, nor do I like the more complicated versions of this watch either. However, neither did I dislike the version I posted; in fact, quite the opposite - I liked the dial detailing. The positioning of the 12 & 6 helped "stretch" the watch in the vertical plane, so that there's an illusion of length/extension, in-line with the strap.As a consequence, the watch doesn't come across looking as "boxy" as it otherwise might when one looks at the dial, or if the numbers were aligned in the horizontal plane. I also like the detailing around the hands of the watch (I can't remember the technical term? Is the graining made by machine-turning or a guilloche technique? I'm not an expert).It adds visual interest without being over-done, and catches the light under different conditions. Use of an auto movement and centre-seconds makes this watch more of a daily-wearer to me, rather than a formal dress watch. The simpler, original two-hander strikes me more as a formal dress watch, rather than a daily-wearer. So made for a different purpose, even the differences are only small and subtle. Would I prefer the original two-hand watch? Probably, but that doesn't mean I would kick this watch out of bed, either. YMMV.

PS Is this the original 2-hander you mentioned?

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@Meurice: I agree re the enamel dial, as well as the Tiffany co-branding. Of the world timers out there, the 5130 is a classic (although the more contemporary resized version of the classic). I personally prefer it in Pt, since I like the dial more, but the WG is nice too.

This thread can occasionally become an echo-chamber, and for some there are certain brands that can do no wrong. Regardless of whether merited or not.

I judge watches one at a time, not by the brand. Some brands are more consistent than others; some brands trade on their name and marketing spend more than others. Even Patek has its share of duds, and frankly, its status, while oftentimes merited, is not the be-all-end-all for those who are horologically inclined. But branding is critical to some.

I suspect I may be one of those folks that certain people on this thread have written off and/or blocked, but that's not for lack of relevant content or input. Some people just don't like it when you call a spade a spade.

Many thanks.

 

While PP is indeed my favourite manufacturer (not "brand"), I actually only like a fraction of their model range. But the same goes for many other things in life. Companies, artists, people can get one thing right - and make a mess with everything else they do. 

 

I like the matter-of-fact aura of PP in the 1980-1990ies. It was so simple, it did not need to be explained or endorsed by celebrities. A few watches manage to capture that special nimbus - 3940, 5110, 96. Minute repeaters in general. PP's design used to be very sober (and a 5127 still looks a bit like an oversized Timex), Breguet and later Lange & Söhne started this whole retro thing. Contrary to common wisdom on some watch fora I dont not neccessarily believe that a "proper" PP needs to be a complicated one - a 5196 or 5119 are very fine watches, simple and unique.

post #43760 of 48312
Here's my current collection. The Stowa may go at some point. Not sure what's next. I really like:

JLC Reverso
Panerai 337/338
Omega Speedmaster Pro
Rolex Pepsi GMT birth year

Too many good options out there!


Edited by tricky - 5/25/15 at 11:21am
post #43761 of 48312
Thank You all, how long is the warrant generally on Omega watches, debating the gray market options. Discounts there seem to he about %40.
post #43762 of 48312
4 years. You can pm me if you want. My guy who got me my speedy can do 25-30% off overnighted from an AD with omega warranty. No tax either
post #43763 of 48312
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4 years. You can pm me if you want. My guy who got me my speedy can do 25-30% off overnighted from an AD with omega warranty. No tax either

Anyone can get 20+% on an Omega in less than 2 min of entering an AD.




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That peacock's a rather overt statement then, isn't it...



Marcus watches on New Bond St. is also worth a visit.


Smithfield on St. John Street is also good https://www.stjohngroup.uk.com


There's plenty of good eats and shops in London.


Londontown.com is really good for finding places close to where you are going.
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4 years. You can pm me if you want. My guy who got me my speedy can do 25-30% off overnighted from an AD with omega warranty. No tax either

Those are great deals. Are they generally available for newer models like the DSOTM?

Beach time earlier today:

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post #43765 of 48312
I didn't think people were getting much discount if anyone the DSOTM. I really like the Grey Side.
post #43766 of 48312
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I bought my wife one from this place. Web design is from the Jurassic era, but they were prompt with communication and the price seemed fair. No idea on blue dial.

http://capetownstore.com/consignment_watches.html

Capetown is an excellent store. I've bought there. Great communication and customer service.
post #43767 of 48312
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Here's my current collection. The Stowa may go at some point. Not sure what's next. I really like:

JLC Reverso
Panerai 337/338
Omega Speedmaster Pro
Rolex Pepsi GMT birth year

Too many good options out there!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Beautiful selection. I'm actually warming to the 39mm Explorer after (finally) seeing it in person. Hmm...
post #43768 of 48312
And lest we go longer than 12 hours and possibly forget, more naval-gazing....


...the misspelled pun was intentional.
post #43769 of 48312
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Here's my current collection. The Stowa may go at some point. Not sure what's next. I really like:

JLC Reverso
Panerai 337/338
Omega Speedmaster Pro
Rolex Pepsi GMT birth year

Too many good options out there!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Beautiful selection. I'm actually warming to the 39mm Explorer after (finally) seeing it in person. Hmm...

Funny how that works 'no?!
post #43770 of 48312
^ Indeed, Frilly. I always preferred the 36mm version, but now I'm not so sure.
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