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Thanks for your thoughts. I rarely wear CBD to work currently and I suppose it would be more of a social occasion watch. TBH I'm not important enough for tons of black tie functions (I enjoyed the discussion a little while back about that), so I suppose that leaves nice dinners and weddings. The random night at the symphony maybe.

We'll see how the next year or so plays out, this will probably be a slow burn. I really like the VC I mentioned before, but every time I see a Patek with Breguet numerals drool.gif

Price wise, the VC's seem to sell for much below MSRP on the various forums even in near mint condition. At full retail, there's a lot of competition +/- a few thousand bucks even if they aren't apples to apples (Nautilus etc.).
Edited by cyc wid it - 5/16/15 at 12:11am
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It certainly is a beautiful thing, Ben, though I still think it deserves a real gator strap for that level of detail - even if it means 50-100 bucks on the price. But maybe that's just me.

Either way, you're doing great things. Any news on your Swiss perp cal project?

CWI, or how about just wearing a jacket and a nice watch to take someone special for dinner? There is always a good reason to be one notch sharper than the rest. Important my ass - looking important can have a surprising impact on how you feel.
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scratched my bezel and my soul yesterday :(

 

 

how to fix it

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Oh no! ^^^

Looks like a battle scar that will stay, short of a bezel replacement?


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Today, some artsy colorful whatever shot:

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Ooh me too. Broke up the awfulness of an early Saturday morning grind.

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Oh no! ^^^

Looks like a battle scar that will stay, short of a bezel replacement?


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sent a mail to christopher ward regarding the repair, now the wait begins. 

post #43568 of 48312
Okey gents!

I have found a 16570 from 1995 that I like.

Serviced 2012 with papers. Box and papers. Good conditon. 90%.
Gonna trade it with my IWC 3777-01 in 95% conditon.

Whats your opinion in the each watch value in this case?
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Okey gents!

I have found a 16570 from 1995 that I like.

Serviced 2012 with papers. Box and papers. Good conditon. 90%.
Gonna trade it with my IWC 3777-01 in 95% conditon.

Whats your opinion in the each watch value in this case?

Funny, I just bought a '95 16570 that was just serviced on Thursday. I was looking at several listings and found one in Chicago local to me. The ones I was considering we're all around 3650-3900, but weren't with box and papers) although since it was a local cash deal I ended up paying $3400. The 16570 is the easy part to value, the Ingy is harder as they aren't as liquid. In a perfect world you could trade the 3227 for the 16570 + 200-500 bucks, but I'm not sure with this.

Are you trading with a dealer or an individual?
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Speaking of, decided I wanted to "downgrade" from my 114060 and that a Polar Explorer II was a bit more my style. Found this one freshly serviced and local for a great price. It came on the bracelet, but I'm going to wear this one on rubber. While I wait on the Everest band to ship, I'm wearing it on some Natos I had lying around. Was hoping to sell the 114060 before I bought this, but I'm sure I'll manage to move it soon enough.

Oblig quick and dirty pic:
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Funny, I just bought a '95 16570 that was just serviced on Thursday. I was looking at several listings and found one in Chicago local to me. The ones I was considering we're all around 3650-3900, but weren't with box and papers) although since it was a local cash deal I ended up paying $3400. The 16570 is the easy part to value, the Ingy is harder as they aren't as liquid. In a perfect world you could trade the 3227 for the 16570 + 200-500 bucks, but I'm not sure with this.

Are you trading with a dealer or an individual?

Individual! My pilot 3777-01 is 1 year old and the Rolex is 20 years, but Rolex is more expansive them IWC on the second hand market?
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Individual! My pilot 3777-01 is 1 year old and the Rolex is 20 years, but Rolex is more expansive them IWC on the second hand market?

Oops, I totally misread the model number you had written. I don't know much about the value of the 3777, but In general the best value you're going to get is by selling your own watch outright first and the buying what you want. Sorry, I thought I could be more helpful.
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...but In general the best value you're going to get is by selling your own watch outright first and the buying what you want. ....

This makes sense to me; why bother with a trade?
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Individual! My pilot 3777-01 is 1 year old and the Rolex is 20 years, but Rolex is more expansive them IWC on the second hand market?

Not sure if you are questioning why the Rolex is more.  If so, vintage Rolex models have continued to increase in value as the designs are timeless, very few changes the 16570 and the 16550 looked nearly the same for 20+ years.  Also they have an in house movement which seems to be more valued today than 15-20 years ago as most companies have tried to offer more pieces with in house movements. 

 

A current IWC will depreciate (as you can get it new at a discount), so one has to take a hit to move to make the price gap significant enough to entice a buyer.  Also with many people favoring in house movements the Val 7750 isn't helping its value, and its design at least from what I've seen isn't universally loved.  Many don't like the window with 3 dates visible.  Personally, if I were buying a pilot watch, I think its predecessors (3706 and 3713) are a more classic in design so I'd probably seek out one of those.

 

However, if the 16570 suits your taste go for it.  It will at least retain its value, and for some people the GMT function is more useful than a chronograph.  It also flies under the radar a bit more than the colored bezels of Subs, GMTs, and SDs, yet its still "Very Rolex."  I've had a 16570 for about 14 years (it was a wedding gift) and although I have no intention of selling it is interesting to see values go past what it cost when it was new.  Wishing you luck with whatever you decide.

 

Here are 2 quick enabling photos.  One with a few siblings, one by itself. Cheers!

 

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Took Mrs. Dino and my niece to a chocolate bar at a hotel in Boston.  So my BLNR got some wrist time.  Also snapped a quick lum shot later in the day.  Cheers!

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