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^ Lovely, Frilly.
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On rotation this week, the SD4000:
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Same as any other watch brand I suppose. It's all subjective. A lot of people love to get immersed in the history and also the fandom, I just like their cases and dials.


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I would very much like for somebody to explain to me the appeal of Panerai watches. 

Not to cast any aspersions, I just don't quite get it. 
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Very nice! Blue or black dial? I'm actually thinking about flipping my Explorer II for a DJII as I'm finding the 42mm ExpII a bit too 'top heavy'. 

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OK so I have an omega speedmaster.

Thinking of adding in either:

- Rolex Submariner (No-Date)
Pros: Classic, works with any outfit, won't look dated in the next 50 years
Cons: Already have a black speedmaster and this may be too similar in a small collection, slightly ubiquitous.

OR

- Rolex GMT-Master II (Blue/black)
Pros: Unique world first two tone ceramic, GMT/date function, in the context of starting my collection it adds more interest with the color scheme, less common
Cons: Will the color mean it is less classic, or will I get bored of it after a few years?





Edited by AriGold - 5/10/15 at 8:08pm
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Both are superb watches, Ari, but I'm probably biased on advising the former but YMMV. Can't go wrong with either choice.
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OK so I have an omega speedmaster.

Thinking of adding in either:

- Rolex Submariner (No-Date)


OR

- Rolex GMT-Master II (Blue/black)

Are you more likely to go diving or travel? I went with a GMT myself and love it. But hey, it's a Rolex. If you get bored with it, you won't lose much or any money selling out off. I think "Batman" is the new "Pepsi," (read: most desirable) for two reasons: 1) It's a watch designed for pilots and if the GMT bezel coloring is meant to approximate daylight, you can't get any truer than blue/black (the two main colors of the sky). 2) That blue ceramic is pretty unique in the way it catches light. Cant' really stand the PCLs though.

Of course, I bought a previous model GMTII and paid half what they're going for now. But that's a call you'll have to make for yourself.

Subs? Well they're subs. The original dive watch. 'Nough said.
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Anyone care to opine on the irrational exuberance (read: insanity) that seems to have infected the auction market of late? (See, e.g., Hodinkee's breathless coverage of the Geneva auctions this weekend.)

I don't have much of an opinion on the results.

Hodinkee's increasingly-overt cheerleading for auction houses feels like shilling to me, though. It seems that half their content is pre- and post-sale propaganda these days, and I doubt they're dedicating so much effort simply out of impartial journalistic interest.
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I'm thinking of starting a review site for my own little local market...the lack of information, and even disinformation, for local customers is pretty depressing.

 

Anyway, back to Ari's question, I have to say Sub: although the BLNR is much loved, and no reason it shouldn't be, it is black and blue.  Maybe next year, or in ten years, that will go from "original" to "ugly".  Maybe it will be the colours of a new Nazi party.  Maybe your wife will be a Milanista.  So the Sub is the enduring beauty: there's just nothing wrong with it, and I don't think ever will be.  Various iterations of the GMT go in and out of fashion, but a Sub is a Sub is a Sub.

 

Question: imagine something gold, with a bright red dial, not sporty in essence, but sort of because it will wear large on a lady.  Strap suggestion?

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I don't have much of an opinion on the results.

Hodinkee's increasingly-overt cheerleading for auction houses feels like shilling to me, though. It seems that half their content is pre- and post-sale propaganda these days, and I doubt they're dedicating so much effort simply out of impartial journalistic interest.

I like and enjoy the site, but what troubles me is how often editorial content is usurped to talk up Clymer's own personal collection.
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Hodinkee's increasingly-overt cheerleading for auction houses feels like shilling to me, though. It seems that half their content is pre- and post-sale propaganda these days, and I doubt they're dedicating so much effort simply out of impartial journalistic interest.

Agreed. I enjoy some of their features, but I think they ought to disclose who is paying for their frequent travel and what other "gifts" they receive for coverage. And I'm not just referring to their auction coverage.
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Good point @mimo , if you want something simple and risk-averse that will always be in style @AriGold , the Submariner is probably the watch to buy.

 

Of course, the GMT does also come in black...

 

 

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Sub ND vs. BLNR is a tough decision.  The PCL on the BLNR show every tiny scratch which can be a little annoying at first but then it grows on you.  The only complaint I have ever heard about a Sub is that it is too common.

 

I don't know if I agree with @mimo that the Black/Blue will go out of style.  The "root beer" GMT is one thing but people still like the classic Red/Blue "Pepsi" and Red/Black "Coke" bezels.  The blue on the BLNR is not as bright as say the green on a Sub LV or the Smurf Blue on the white gold Sub.  

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OK so I have an omega speedmaster.

Thinking of adding in either:

- Rolex Submariner (No-Date)
Pros: Classic, works with any outfit, won't look dated in the next 50 years
Cons: Already have a black speedmaster and this may be too similar in a small collection, slightly ubiquitous.

OR

- Rolex GMT-Master II (Blue/black)
Pros: Unique world first two tone ceramic, GMT/date function, in the context of starting my collection it adds more interest with the color scheme, less common
Cons: Will the color mean it is less classic, or will I get bored of it after a few years?

As others said you can't go wrong with either.  

 

Price may or may not matter to you but there is about a $1,400 difference in MSRP.  

 

I recently considered each model, and I've owned previous versions of the Sub and GMT.  I think 2 additional pros that the Sub has are the new clasp with adjustments that are really easy to make, and the all brushed surface of the bracelet tend to hide scratches better than polished links.  I don't think having a Speedmaster would make a Sub redundant, as its a completely different style of watch.  Also if your concern is having 2 black watches, keep in mind even a GMT is predominately black except for half the bezel and the 24 hr hand.   I really like the Sub (No Date) and maybe someday I'll add one.

 

That being said this time I went with the BLNR GMT.  While, I would have preferred brushed links over polished center links, I'm already used to them on some models like Daytonas . There were a few reasons I chose the GMT.   I currently have a first generation Green Bezel Sub LV  green bezel/black dial, so I wasn't sure I wanted another Sub.  I don't do any diving, so I don't truly need a diving watch.  Although, I can live without a date, it would come in handy for a daily wearer.  I travel occasionally and the GMT function seemed like it would be more useful to me than a deeper depth rating for water resistance.  In addition, I liked the Black/Blue combination significantly more in person than I thought I would.  Even my wife liked it a lot, and she was never a fan of the Pepsi/Coke bezels.  She thought the black/Blue is much more subdued than the bezel of the past and I agree...although I wouldn't mind adding  Pepsi to the mix at some point even if its not Mrs. Dino's favorite.  

 

I think dual colored bezels will always be a classic trait associated with the GMT.  Yes, you can get a GMT with a black bezel, but it sort of loses a bit of functionality with the all black bezel, along with some of its identity.  My first Rolex was an all black GMT and if people noticed it they almost always said, "Nice Sub."  I don't care about compliments or if someone notices my watches, but it just seemed that without a dual color bezel the GMT loses some of its own identity and is presumed to be a Sub.  That may or may not matter to you, but I suppose I want my GMT to look like a GMT and have its own identity (even though the Sub and GMT are very closely related).

 

There was mention of whether some versions of GMTs will or do go out of style, and I just don't see that happening.  Years ago, people hated the "Bronze/Root Beer" variations, but today with Rolex watches being so collectible even the former undesirables such as "Rootbeer GMTs," "Orange Hand 1655 Explorer 2s," and "Oysterquartzes"  have been embraced by Rolex collectors.  

 

As for color, I wondered if I would tire of having a Green bezeled Sub, as black is the original and classic.  However, I haven't tired of it, and neither has the market, as shown by Rolex releasing an updated version a few years ago with a green ceramic bezel and green dial.  I don't see myself tiring of the black and blue bezel either.  I think if one tires of a watch, more likely it would be you grow tired of the actual watch in its entirety, not so much by the choice of bezel color.

In the end, the best thing to do is try them on and go with whichever model makes you smile the most.  :cheers:

Oh and just for the hell of it here are a few quick enabling photos from a few months ago.  

 

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