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Yeah, @Dino944, I could certainly have said under $15k and therein we'd find a majority of the watches I was referencing. Around $18k or so, I'd quite instantly start looking at VC. As enamored as I feel with JLC under $15, I feel doubly so for VC above the $15k mark.

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Love JLC, and would happily blow past the $15K barrier for pieces like the Reverso 1931 Center Seconds or the Duometre Lunaire. The best value, high-end manufacture.
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As we're talking JLC, this caught my eye in the Royal Arcade in London last week:

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Dino, you're a gent, thanks for sharing that again - one of my favourites! :fonz:

Always a pleasure my friend.  Glad to share one of my favorites!  :cheers:

 

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Yeah, @Dino944, I could certainly have said under $15k and therein we'd find a majority of the watches I was referencing. Around $18k or so, I'd quite instantly start looking at VC. As enamored as I feel with JLC under $15, I feel doubly so for VC above the $15k mark.

I think at $15K your statement is very strong at $18K 

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Love JLC, and would happily blow past the $15K barrier for pieces like the Reverso 1931 Center Seconds or the Duometre Lunaire. The best value, high-end manufacture.

I'm also a big fan of JLC.  However, there is a limit to what I think any of their products are worth.  The Reverso 1931 center seconds is nice, but I don't love the center seconds hand, and to me part of what makes a Reverso a Reverso is a manual wind movement...its nice looking but at almost $19K there are other watches I'd rather have.  As for the Duometre, I don't find it attractive at all, and there are far better watches available for that kind of money.  IMHO, JLC offers great value, but once I'm spending a certain amount, I want the best...not simply a great value.   But look at it this way, without me spending beyond $15K for a JLC...there are more Duometre's and 1931 Center Seconds available for you!  ;)

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It's thinner than a damn Wheat Thin!
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Makes the 40mm case work as a dress watch, I think...and more personality than a JLC GUT, imho.

I am partial to JLC generally, but I certainly didn't mean that in a negative way. It's impressively thin… like a Wheat Thin, although I suspect not quite as crunchy. smile.gif
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As we're talking JLC, this caught my eye in the Royal Arcade in London last week:

The ultra thin case looks great in rose gold, but I thought the dial on the steel version was better looking with all stick markers.  I didn't like what looked like hand drawn Arabics at 12 and 6.  The non-closed 6 looked to me like a kid in grade school helped with that dial.

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Not so sure I'd just agree that Piaget movements are better finished than JLC of the same price.  A couple examples of both company's ultrathins show they square off nicely.

 

Piaget Calibre 430P vs 

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Snowflake on wrist.


Speaking of underrated manufactures! Love Grand Seiko, and their 62GS models from Basel '15 are stunning.
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Not so sure I'd just agree that Piaget movements are better finished than JLC of the same price.  A couple examples of both company's ultrathins show they square off nicely.

 

That's ok, I'm not so sure I'd just agree that a reasonable comparison of movements is a drawing vs an actual photograph.  Personally, I think they are close, but I'd go with the Piaget from what I've seen but YMMV.  

 

Don't get me wrong, I really like JLC and think they produce a great product, are a good value and I hope to add a JLC Reverso to my collection at some point.  However, once a watch is in a certain price range, I probably would move from JLC to something else.  Sort of like the idea of buying a really good off the rack suit, but once you are in a certain price range perhaps you'd rather have made to measure or even bespoke.  

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Did someone say Reverso?

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Not entirely certain I agree with the off-the-rack comparison, given that a lot of those high-end watches are JLC movements with a nicer finishing and a case in precious metal.

 

VC, PP, AP. They've all used JLC movements in watches that sell for much more than Jaeger's own models.

 

Once you're into the $20k+ pricepoint, cost starts to go up a lot more from things like metals, finishing techniques and handwork, additional complications etc. Stuff that appeals to the top-tier connoisseurs. JLC's sweet spot is in steel watches, where it offers up high end movements in more affordable casing/finishing. They can make more complicated, precious luxury watches, sure. But I think they're smart in knowing that where they compete is at the higher end of the mid-market. And, for me, that's kind of what I consider the apex of the bang-per-buck curve.

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Not so sure that's a drawing but here's the photo from their own website.

 

450P Ultra-Thin Mechanical Movement - Piaget Luxury Watches Online

 

Would agree similar but give the JLC the edge with the polished countersinks, more difficult anglage and flat polished screws.  But as you implied there's a lot of subjectiveness in it and this is just two examples.  

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It took me many months of "research" before pulling the trigger, but I *damn* near bought this Piaget Altiplano (I liked the 38mm two-hander)....






.... before ultimately choosing this Reverso instead (amongst a few others):






Very happy with my choice, but I think as always it will come down to how it looks/feels on the owner's wrist.

Was quite a close call for me, really.
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Also, let me say this: Piaget is a real sleeper.

They absolutely deserve more love, IMHO.
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