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The dial on the Sub LV is great.  It was one of the contenders for my watch but I went a different direction.  The SD4000 is good but then again you are just a little shy of a two-tone Sub.  It really depends on what you want, not what other people have.  Like someone else mentioned you could try to find an anniversary Sub with black dial/green bezel but it will most likely be used unless you can find someone who just bought it and kept it in a box.

 

Just go try them on in person and see which one you like the most.  Everyone in TWAT seems to have a BLNR these days but it doesn't make me love mine any less.  Plus I was first....

Even so, other than my own, I've only ever seen one once before in person at a store where the person who ordered it could not be reached.  I've yet to see one in person on another persons wrist.  

 

PS...but yes, I'll still give you credit for being the first person here to show us just how handsome this watch is in a wrist shot !  :cheers:

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As others have said, buy what you like.  Don't worry about others, most will see which ever version you get be it a SD or a Sub, and figure its a Sub.  The black is a classic.  If you want something different, and an LV fits the bill for you, then go for it.  I like the dial on the current LV, but I don't like that bezel color.  The sort of flat green for the bezel relative to the deep rich color of the dial is one reason, I've never been interested in the current LV.  In the end if you want a Sub or SD then go for it.  They are good, solid, rugged watches with a classic style that will get you through many years of wear and tear even as your only Rolex.  

If you have a large wrist and like how it feels go for it.  I've just see a few people wearing it and it looks too big for them.  Its not a Panerai or something of that nature so its fit IMHO is important.

My wrist is strictly average in size. I suspect it may look too large but I think I'm okay with that.

On a somewhat related note, has Rolex ever made a steel blue sub? The current iteration is white gold, and the other precious metal watch I've been looking at is a TT blue sub, not the latest one but the old 16613. I've never come across a steel blue one before though. I could probably google and find out but probably easier to just ask on here..
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Having recently taken the leap into a precious metal watch.  This!

 

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If you only have all steel watches, its definitely nice to have something in a precious metal for some diversity.  I generally wear steel watches most of the week and it always feels a bit special to put on something with some color.  Its sort of like going from nice casual shoes to a fine pair of dress shoes.  Sometimes the occasion really calls for something dressy in a precious metal.  Good luck on your journey.  Cheers!

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My wrist is strictly average in size. I suspect it may look too large but I think I'm okay with that.

On a somewhat related note, has Rolex ever made a steel blue sub? The current iteration is white gold, and the other precious metal watch I've been looking at is a TT blue sub, not the latest one but the old 16613. I've never come across a steel blue one before though. I could probably google and find out but probably easier to just ask on here..

 

 

I don't THINK they made a steel blue.  But I'm far from a vintage Rolex expert.

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There has never been a steel blue sub.
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On a somewhat related note, has Rolex ever made a steel blue sub? The current iteration is white gold, and the other precious metal watch I've been looking at is a TT blue sub, not the latest one but the old 16613. I've never come across a steel blue one before though. I could probably google and find out but probably easier to just ask on here..

From what I have read over the years, it's a bit of a controversy between serious collectors. Some say a stainless steel blue dial/bezel Submariner was made in extremely limited quantities for the Japanese market in the 1980s, and some say the watch was a frankenRolex and was not a factory piece. If it did exist, this is the reference:
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Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date, "Submariner" 660ft/200m, Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified, Ref.1680. Made for the Oriental market. Production of this reference started in 1976. Fine center-seconds, self-winding, water-resistant to 660ft/200m, stainless steel gentleman's wristwatch with date, blue bezel and blue dial, with a stainless steel "Flush-Fit" Oyster bracelet.

There are a few photos on the Internet of the supposed watch, but I have yet to see anyone acquire this unicorn. People have been clamoring for a stainless steel blue Submariner for a very long time and, were the piece real, I would think that some vintage collector would have trumpeted their discovery by now.
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Overall a very nice watch, and I generally like non-round watches.  However, in person I just didn't love this one.  A friend's store was closing out their VC account, (a bigger store in the region was getting the sole contract for the brand), and he offered it to me at a very nice discount, but I just didn't love it in person as much as in the photos.  Actually for a Tonneau shape, I preferred the out of production CPCP Cartier Tortue XL Monopoussoir (single pusher chronograph), the Patek 5040, and VC's own 1912 with articulated lugs and exploding numerals.  This piece is a bit more angular and although I like the case, I prefer the larger more defined lugs of the past Malte collection, and this model wears a bit larger than I like on my wrist.  Wishing you luck with it.  Cheers! 

 

How do you feel about the Royal Eagle chronos, Dino? I tried on a rose gold early-2000s model at WatchClub the other day and was surprised at how much it appealed, with the vaguely Franck Muller-ish numerals being the only real ding for me.

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People may be getting the white gold confused with Steel.

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We are binge watching Mad Men today and I couldn't resist:






I can't believe it took me this long to start it, but I'm hooked.

As always, I hope everyone is having a great weekend!
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Even If I already have two Dive watches already??  I know 9 people that own the sub personally, I want something little bit different.

I have three dive watches, and more could be on the horizon. Get what you like. What others have, like I said, should never be a consideration. Who cares what anyone else wears or doesn't wear? When choosing a watch, I never even think of what anyone else might be wearing.
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We are binge watching Mad Men today and I couldn't resist:






I can't believe it took me this long to start it, but I'm hooked.

As always, I hope everyone is having a great weekend!

I'm hooked on the Reverso. Stunning!
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Even If I already have two Dive watches already??  I know 9 people that own the sub personally, I want something little bit different.

I have three dive watches, and more could be on the horizon. Get what you like. What others have, like I said, should never be a consideration. Who cares what anyone else wears or doesn't wear? When choosing a watch, I never even think of what anyone else might be wearing.

Some thoughts on the SD4000 versus the SubC LV - they look similar, but there are subtle, potentially important differences (price aside). The SD4000 is heavier than the SubC, and its titanium caseback actually protrudes and doesn't sit as flat on the wrist as the Sub's.

The SD4000 is 15mm thick while the SubC is 12.5mm thick; that doesn't sound like much, but note that the DSSD is "only" 2.5mm thicker than the SD4000 and is perceived by many as being "too thick." So make sure you put both on your wrist to make sure it works for you.

Finally, the SD4000's crystal is raised, while the SubC's crystal lies flat against the bezel. That might render the SD4000's crystal a bit more susceptible to chipping if you bang up against something too hard.

I own both (and several other modern Rolex dive watches) and I love 'em all! Best wishes on the decision.
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I'm hooked on the Reverso. Stunning!

Thank you tricky!
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Some thoughts on the SD4000 versus the SubC LV - they look similar, but there are subtle, potentially important differences (price aside). The SD4000 is heavier than the SubC, and its titanium caseback actually protrudes and doesn't sit as flat on the wrist as the Sub's.

The SD4000 is 15mm thick while the SubC is 12.5mm thick; that doesn't sound like much, but note that the DSSD is "only" 2.5mm thicker than the SD4000 and is perceived by many as being "too thick." So make sure you put both on your wrist to make sure it works for you.

Finally, the SD4000's crystal is raised, while the SubC's crystal lies flat against the bezel. That might render the SD4000's crystal a bit more susceptible to chipping if you bang up against something too hard.

I own both (and several other modern Rolex dive watches) and I love 'em all! Best wishes on the decision.

I find both are awesome.  I find the LV really unique.  I will go try em both on and see.

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From what I have read over the years, it's a bit of a controversy between serious collectors. Some say a stainless steel blue dial/bezel Submariner was made in extremely limited quantities for the Japanese market in the 1980s, and some say the watch was a frankenRolex and was not a factory piece. If it did exist, this is the reference:
There are a few photos on the Internet of the supposed watch, but I have yet to see anyone acquire this unicorn. People have been clamoring for a stainless steel blue Submariner for a very long time and, were the piece real, I would think that some vintage collector would have trumpeted their discovery by now.

I've never heard of them being made for the Japanese market.  However, I had heard, (and again it can often be difficult to know what is truth and what is rumor), that a person or a few people commissioned them back in the days when Rolex would actually make watches that were specific to a client's wishes.  Although, I presume it took some serious money to do so.   Years ago I did see pix of a steel Sub, dark blue dial and dark blue bezel, I believe it was based on a 1680.  IIRC, it was going to auction but I don't know the details.   

 

There were rumors that wealthy people in the Middle East had commissioned manual wind Daytonas in the 1970s and early 80's, but I've never seen proof of that.  However, I have seen pix of one of the rarest Rolex's ever made.  A series of 8 Platinum Oysterquartz watches, commissioned and given as gifts by the late Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.  So there definitely was a time when Rolex would do special orders, but they are much larger now and that time has passed.

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People may be getting the white gold confused with Steel.

People who are new to Rolex, might make that mistake.  However, there have been pix and stories of specially commissioned steel, blue dial, blue bezel Submariners in the 1970s or 1980s. 

 

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How do you feel about the Royal Eagle chronos, Dino? I tried on a rose gold early-2000s model at WatchClub the other day and was surprised at how much it appealed, with the vaguely Franck Muller-ish numerals being the only real ding for me.

First, take into account, that the "Exploding Numerals" often associated with F.M., were used by Vacheron long before F.M. was born.  I know they were used by VC as early as 1912.

I really like the case for the VC Royal Eagle, particularly the rose gold calendar version (its a tad cleaner without the date and pushers).  The chronograph version is nice, its movement is based on F.Piguet 1185 (used in the current VC Overseas chrono and RO Chrono), but I do wish they had skipped giving it a date.  Still it is a very nice watch, greatly under appreciated when new...but I think it will come to be looked on as a very good value and an unusual watch in years to come.  Most chronographs are round so its really cool to occasionally find them offered in other shapes.  I prefer it in rose on a strap over the steel version on a bracelet.  Wishing you luck with it my friend.  :cheers:  

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