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Thank you both for enlightening me! @Grammaton Cleric and @Dino944 

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^ Um, I think Montreal is in the province of Quebec. devil.gifsmile.gif

 

Well, actually, there's the Province of Québec and the city of Québec, which is Québec's capital. Montréal and Québec are the 2 biggest cities in the Province of Québec.

 

Just like there's a New York City inside of New York state. 

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Savings from reputable grey dealers can be very meaningful (I'm talking 35-40% off list as opposed to 10-15% from most ADs). If you're buying an expensive piece, that is real money. Unfortunately, the above discounts don't apply to Rolex (or Panny / Cartier).
 

You definitely will not see 35-40% off in the US at gray shops.  Maybe in some parts of the world, but back in the days when grays in the US were discounting at those rates,  I could get the same discounts on VCs, Pateks, IWCs, and Langes...but the margins have changed in the US, and at least near me the discounts are not 35-40% off on higher end or high demand pieces from grays or ADs.  

 

Also some gray's carry pre-owned pieces.  I don't consider a lightly worn, pre-owned piece at a big discount a new watch with a new watch discount.  It might be a great deal and some see little difference and enjoy the savings...but its still a pre-owned piece.  Just want to be clear about that.   

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Well, actually, there's the Province of Québec and the city of Québec, which is Québec's capital. Montréal and Québec are the 2 biggest cities in the Province of Québec.

Just like there's a New York City inside of New York state. 

Ha, that just came to me as well, and I edited my post. Apologies to Dino for the smart-ass devil emoticon shog[1].gif
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Well, actually, there's the Province of Québec and the city of Québec, which is Québec's capital. Montréal and Québec are the 2 biggest cities in the Province of Québec.

 

Just like there's a New York City inside of New York state. 

Yes I visited the cities not the entire province.  I presumed when you listed living in Quebec you were speaking of the city, not the general province, my mistake sorry.  

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Ha, that just came to me as well, and I edited my post. Apologies to Dino for the smart-ass devil emoticon shog[1].gif

No worries my friend.  Cheers!

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You definitely will not see 35-40% off in the US at gray shops.  Maybe in some parts of the world, but back in the days when grays in the US were discounting at those rates,  I could get the same discounts on VCs, Pateks, IWCs, and Langes...but the margins have changed in the US, and at least near me the discounts are not 35-40% off on higher end or high demand pieces from grays or ADs.  

Also some gray's carry pre-owned pieces.  I don't consider a lightly worn, pre-owned piece at a big discount a new watch with a new watch discount.  It might be a great deal and some see little difference and enjoy the savings...but its still a pre-owned piece.  Just want to be clear about that.   

To be clear, I'm not talking about pre-owned's here. Fresh, out of the box, with a stamped AD card (typically European, sometimes Asian, hardly ever American). And if one purchases from a well known seller, there's minimal risk for getting a 'lightly used' store model and the like.

But, like you said, however small the risk certainly exists.
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Following up on my Speedy situation re: the gray market topic - apparently for a non-COSC certified Omega movement +7s/day is normal. Not sure about the position error though, but they seem pretty common on WUS. Some get crazy about regulating them, which apparently isn't expensive as a stand-alone service.

 

Anyhow, I don't regret my decision, and not just because I paid for 80% of it with AMEX rewards points.

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I presumed when you listed living in Quebec you were speaking of the city, not the general province, my mistake sorry.  

 

I usually write Quebec because that's something most (more) people will recognize, as opposed to Westbury, population of 1 027. :lol:

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Speaking of Speedy and Grey Market, I saw one at Costco for $4k (the new one with all the mumbo-jumbo accessories and giant box) and was really tempted just because of Costcos no questions asked return policy. I could probably return in 10 years and get a full refund.
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My first post in TWAT...looking for opinions & any info that anyone may have on this potentially upcoming Omega AT:

 

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CLUE!

 

Small metallic object. :)

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And yet adding to the AD vs grey topic, that it also is down to local legislation. In the EU, if you buy from grey and the watch is genuine, factory still has to honor the warranty and warranty periods. In addition, consumer laws give you protection after the warranty. But as Dino said, ADs can discount pretty good, as my recent purchase also proved.
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