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And that's how, next week I'll be the proud papa of an Omega SMP 2541.80.00, the 'Bond' watch. My first watch suitable for this thread; all my other watches belong in the Poor Man's Watch thread. 

 

Congrats!!!!  Of course you will owe us a wrist shot when it arrives!  :cheers:

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:rotflmao:  Great comment.

 

I've been married for almost 14 years and its always good to have the wife "On board" for big purchases.  I've had friends that feel its their money and they will do whatever the F*ck they want with it, they make a big purchase and tell the wife after, or just wait for her to discover it, but it seems to lead to some unpleasant arguments and resentment.  To me that would take the fun out of a big purchase.

Yeah, I can't imagine fighting over money/stuff. I'd rather hold off on a purchase, and use that time to grease the wheels :smarmy:

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"I don't care. Do whatever you want"

 

This is the most dangerous phrase a woman can utter.  It does NOT mean what it says.  Blank out her face, and imagine Samuel Jackson saying "I dare you...I double-dare you, motherfucker..."  And be very afraid.

 

- mimo (divorced)

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This is the most dangerous phrase a woman can utter.  It does NOT mean what it says.  Blank out her face, and imagine Samuel Jackson saying "I dare you...I double-dare you, motherfucker..."  And be very afraid.

 

- mimo (divorced)

:rotflmao:

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We must have sounded like we were spending our last pennies when we bought my Rolex.  Had to call the credit card company for a limit increase because her card only had a $6,500 limit at the time.  I remember not looking my best that day and that I could have made better life choices than buying a Rolex.  Also bought our wedding bands and telling the guy to ship everything to another state to save on tax.

 

Good times!

 

As for running purchases by my wife...she enables like @mimo so I have to watch what I "want".  Someone has to maintain the budget.

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I was going to attribute your success to experience and practice, but it looks like you're just better than me at marriage... for now. Happy (almost) anniversary!
rotflmao.gif   Great comment.

I've been married for almost 14 years and its always good to have the wife "On board" for big purchases.  I've had friends that feel its their money and they will do whatever the F*ck they want with it, they make a big purchase and tell the wife after, or just wait for her to discover it, but it seems to lead to some unpleasant arguments and resentment.  To me that would take the fun out of a big purchase.

I am in the same situation as your friends, Dino, pull the plug and let her find out later, or better not find out at all.... engaged and getting married in dec this year. She threatened to cancelled the wedding after discovering the value of my last purchase, so no more watch purchase before the wedding, and hiding the shoes purchases where I can too.
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That's a dangerous road right there, my friend!

 

But considering what I'm planning to do next month, I might see you in the ditch by the side of it.

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The real problem started after she started to research my purchase and started talking to one of her friends that knows a bit little about watches.

She always thought Rolex is the endgame, and my watches are not mostly not Rolex, so not too expensive. Wish it stayed that way.
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I know IWC is not loved here but in case somebody is interested the new Portugieser Collection will be on display at the Bal Harbour Shoppes boutique in Miami from March 24, I think it said for a week.
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Tried on a few today at European Watch Co on Newbury...Dino, read a bit ago that you felt their watches were too "handled" for their asking and filed away, but today agreed with you trying on the Geophysic. Had a couple desk diving scuffs and nicks and they were asking, first glance, 5% off MSRP. Liked it a lot, but wasn't sold. Also, I fell more in love with the UT Moon. The elegance of the face is stunning, but part of me also appreciates the more tool watch ethos of the Geo (not that I'm commanding any nuclear subs under the N Pole)...Cartier Tank MC tried on, but felt a little too flashy for my tastes, as much as I love the guilloche dial.

Lastly, please throw me under the bus for this if needed, but tried on a very nicely patina'ed Exp II cream dial and 1979 SD--I have zero experience with vintage Rolex in-hand, but the bracelets struck me as cheap-ish. Is this normal, need I adjust my expectations? I saw the NOS Exp 1 @ Matthew Bain recently online and dreamed.

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This is the most dangerous phrase a woman can utter.  It does NOT mean what it says.  Blank out her face, and imagine Samuel Jackson saying "I dare you...I double-dare you, motherfucker..."  And be very afraid.

 

- mimo (divorced)

 

:rotflmao:  Mimo my friend, as usual you crack me up!!!  Thanks for the laugh!

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We must have sounded like we were spending our last pennies when we bought my Rolex.  Had to call the credit card company for a limit increase because her card only had a $6,500 limit at the time.  I remember not looking my best that day and that I could have made better life choices than buying a Rolex.  Also bought our wedding bands and telling the guy to ship everything to another state to save on tax.

 

Good times!

 

As for running purchases by my wife...she enables like @mimo so I have to watch what I "want".  Someone has to maintain the budget.

Been there done that.  As newly weds I got a call on a SS Daytona at list price, back in the days when you could flip them for twice the MSRP the same day.  I was between jobs, we had just gotten back from an expensive honeymoon a few weeks earlier.  As we were on our way there, my wife said, "Remind me again, how are we paying for this?  Had less $$$ back then but fewer responsibilities...of course we bought the watch (and it wasn't to flip it)!

 

Also, its good to have someone who is a bit more practical with the budget...usually that's my wife...well usually.  

 

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I am in the same situation as your friends, Dino, pull the plug and let her find out later, or better not find out at all.... engaged and getting married in dec this year. She threatened to cancelled the wedding after discovering the value of my last purchase, so no more watch purchase before the wedding, and hiding the shoes purchases where I can too.

I've handled enough divorces in the past to know there is a certain value to having a happy home and happy wife.  I used to find friends or a relative sneaking toys into the home past their wives amusing, but I wouldn't risk it myself.  On a deeper level it can start to create feeling of distrust and lack of respect.  What you do when your single is one thing, as a married guy make the smart choice and do the right thing.  Trust me...divorces are very unpleasant and very expensive.  

 

Mrs. Dino knew one of my relatives used to sneak purchases past his wife, and years ago she said to me.  "I don't mind you buying nice things, but don't keep them a secret and sneak them into the house.  If you are buying things I want to know about them, share the excitement and fun of making the purchase."  

 

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Tried on a few today at European Watch Co on Newbury...Dino, read a bit ago that you felt their watches were too "handled" for their asking and filed away, but today agreed with you trying on the Geophysic. Had a couple desk diving scuffs and nicks and they were asking, first glance, 5% off MSRP. Liked it a lot, but wasn't sold. Also, I fell more in love with the UT Moon. The elegance of the face is stunning, but part of me also appreciates the more tool watch ethos of the Geo (not that I'm commanding any nuclear subs under the N Pole)...Cartier Tank MC tried on, but felt a little too flashy for my tastes, as much as I love the guilloche dial.

Lastly, please throw me under the bus for this if needed, but tried on a very nicely patina'ed Exp II cream dial and 1979 SD--I have zero experience with vintage Rolex in-hand, but the bracelets struck me as cheap-ish. Is this normal, need I adjust my expectations? I saw the NOS Exp 1 @ Matthew Bain recently online and dreamed.

I've never purchased anything at EWC.   They have a nice reputation, but the condition of what they usually have isn't good enough to make me want to waste my time attempting to negotiate something.  Some people are less concerned about condition so it might be the right place for some people, but not for me.  On my most recent try to Boston I visited Shreve, Crump & Low.  They have nice brands, but there wasn't anything in stock that I was really in love with.

 

Sorry, no love here for the Geophysic.  Its a good watch, but I just don't love anything about it....but if you love it go for it.  

 

Bracelets on Rolex were not as high quality back then as they are today, but the watches also costed a lot less even if one takes inflation into account.  They used hollow center links on the center bracelet links of steel and steel and gold watches, the end links were hollow "clams shells" rather than solid end links, and the clasps were stamped steel not machined.  However, unless really abused, most Oyster bracelets, even those that are 30 plus years old hold up quite well and have a lot of life left in them.  The only bracelets I'd probably avoid are the really old rivet bracelets, unless well taken care of, or Jubilee bracelets that are more than 25 years old...as those tend to show a lot more "stretch" than similarly aged Oyster bracelets.  Also, one has to consider the overall condition and remember that although these are vintage watches that often get babied now, back then people didn't baby them, some people beat the hell out of them.   

 

I looked on line and the SD appears to be in pretty good shape for its age and the dial and hands look good. I can't really see any great shots of the lugs to see how clean and sharp they are or are not.  From what I could see the bracelet looks ok, although not as high quality as the bracelets those were getting by the early to mid 90s (when those got solid end links).  Although the Rolex box in the photo with it isn't the correct Rolex box for that watch.  That box came out several years later.  The vintage cream Ex2 is a transitional model, and is relative rare. The dial looks to be in good shape, but them saying it had little or no polishing seems like BS.  Three out of the four lugs in the photos don't appear to have anything close to the original beveled edge...they all look a bit too rounded.  Granted I haven't seen either of them in person and you can only get so much from photos.  Good luck with them if you are in purchase mode!

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I am in the same situation as your friends, Dino, pull the plug and let her find out later, or better not find out at all.... engaged and getting married in dec this year. She threatened to cancelled the wedding after discovering the value of my last purchase, so no more watch purchase before the wedding, and hiding the shoes purchases where I can too.

 

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The real problem started after she started to research my purchase and started talking to one of her friends that knows a bit little about watches.

She always thought Rolex is the endgame, and my watches are not mostly not Rolex, so not too expensive. Wish it stayed that way.

 

@wurger - As Dino and Mimo have both said, good relationships are based on honesty and trust. You can't, in all truth, have a really sound relationship if one of you is deceiving the other, even if the deception is just over a new pair of shoes or a watch, rather than over an affair. It's still deception and dishonesty. 

 

Before you get married, you should be open with each other.

 

Ideally - although this is subjective - you should sit down together and have a talk about your finances. How much do you each earn, how are you going to treat your income (are you going to pool it, or keep it separate, or a mixture of the two), how much are you going to save and how much are you going to keep for discretionary purchases and so on. 

 

If you're both working and if you've both got reasonable salaries, then your income won't be so much of an issue at first. However, if the soon-to-be Mrs Wurger stops working or reduces her work and therefore reduces her salary when you decide to have some little wurgers, then it will be an issue, as your money will be used to support everyone. That's why it's best to be transparent, to work out a budget, and to decide how much you can allocate towards luxuries before that situation arises. 

 

I'm married to a Japanese lady who is quite traditional so, in the traditional Japanese way, I hand 90% of my nett salary over to her each fortnight. I can do whatever I want with the remaining 10%, but before I buy any luxuries, I first have to pay for transport to work and any lunches/drinks etc that I want to have during the week. I know that won't work for everyone but my wife is very happy as she is reassured by knowing about the state of our household finances and our financial situation is very healthy, thanks to her management. 

 

I can't stress just how important it is to be open and transparent if you want a happy, long-term relationship. Make sure that you're open and up-front about things and don't hide things and try to sneak stuff into the house. After all, if you buy $1500 St Crispins or Italian MTO shoes and sneak them into the house behind her back, are you really going to be happy wearing those shoes? Or are you going to be waiting for your fiance/wife to ask "When did you get those shoes?" in the knowledge that you're going to have to lie to her when you answer? 

 

That's just my 0.02c worth - speaking for myself, I think that having an honest relationship and a healthy bank balance is much more important than having yet another watch or yet another pair of expensive shoes. 

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I am in the same situation as your friends, Dino, pull the plug and let her find out later, or better not find out at all.... engaged and getting married in dec this year. She threatened to cancelled the wedding after discovering the value of my last purchase, so no more watch purchase before the wedding, and hiding the shoes purchases where I can too.
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The real problem started after she started to research my purchase and started talking to one of her friends that knows a bit little about watches.


She always thought Rolex is the endgame, and my watches are not mostly not Rolex, so not too expensive. Wish it stayed that way.

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- As Dino and Mimo have both said, good relationships are based on honesty and trust. You can't, in all truth, have a really sound relationship if one of you is deceiving the other, even if the deception is just over a new pair of shoes or a watch, rather than over an affair. It's still deception and dishonesty. 

Before you get married, you should be open with each other.

Ideally - although this is subjective - you should sit down together and have a talk about your finances. How much do you each earn, how are you going to treat your income (are you going to pool it, or keep it separate, or a mixture of the two), how much are you going to save and how much are you going to keep for discretionary purchases and so on. 

If you're both working and if you've both got reasonable salaries, then your income won't be so much of an issue at first. However, if the soon-to-be Mrs Wurger stops working or reduces her work and therefore reduces her salary when you decide to have some little wurgers, then it will be an issue, as your money will be used to support everyone. That's why it's best to be transparent, to work out a budget, and to decide how much you can allocate towards luxuries before that situation arises. 

I'm married to a Japanese lady who is quite traditional so, in the traditional Japanese way, I hand 90% of my nett salary over to her each fortnight. I can do whatever I want with the remaining 10%, but before I buy any luxuries, I first have to pay for transport to work and any lunches/drinks etc that I want to have during the week. I know that won't work for everyone but my wife is very happy as she is reassured by knowing about the state of our household finances and our financial situation is very healthy, thanks to her management. 

I can't stress just how important it is to be open and transparent if you want a happy, long-term relationship. Make sure that you're open and up-front about things and don't hide things and try to sneak stuff into the house. After all, if you buy $1500 St Crispins or Italian MTO shoes and sneak them into the house behind her back, are you really going to be happy wearing those shoes? Or are you going to be waiting for your fiance/wife to ask "When did you get those shoes?" in the knowledge that you're going to have to lie to her when you answer? 

That's just my 0.02c worth - speaking for myself, I think that having an honest relationship and a healthy bank balance is much more important than having yet another watch or yet another pair of expensive shoes. 
 

thanks Dino and JM, words of wisdom. Definitely need to plan my financials better and a lot more self control and consideration for my other half.

Like the line in Kingsman, from Hemingway: "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self."
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@wurger I know you have some nice watches, but you will forever be Lord of the Black Cap Toe Oxfords in my book. Has the Lady to be researched the shoes yet? shog[1].gif

Random watch thought: Breguet numerals are growing on me... must that damned Patek chrono. The 5196P looks nice too. Sigh.
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@wurger I know you have some nice watches, but you will forever be Lord of the Black Cap Toe Oxfords in my book. Has the Lady to be researched the shoes yet? shog[1].gif

oh she does, I am transparent about shoes to a certain extent.
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