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Okay, so I have some wrist shots, but let me at least take a few more decent pics and try to make this a worthwhile exercise mwink[1].gif


@farhad, I like that vintage Omega, especially the sub-seconds layout.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I have looked at MB and Montegrappa, definite contenders. More so than their watches, for sure.

For MB rollerballs, which is the most solid and heavy of the Legend, Meisterstuck and Starliner?

I have a Meisterstuck from 2002 and it's held up pretty well over the years.

The European pen makers tend to craft grand designs on pen barrels and caps, perhaps to justify higher price tags on more expensive models. For example, here's Montegrappa's "My Guardian Angel," which can run into the tens of thousands of dollars:

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For something less ostentatious, but still rather ornate, here is my premium White Knight from Dupont in Chinese lacquer and palladium:

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But, the truth of the matter is that the writing experience is very much dictated by the nib and the feed, and from the many fountain pens I've tested over the last few months, I've got to say that the Japanese nibs are really spectacular. Sailor, Platinum, Nakaya - the consistency of ink flow, the feeling of writing on a cloud, almost zero scratching on paper - it's just incredible.

Nakaya also crafts barrels and pens that are sublime. They are understated works of art. Off a standard ebonite (hard rubber) base, successive applications of Urushi lacquer (which can take months) mold the pen into something both practical and stunning. For example, Nakaya's Dorsal Fin v2 gently curves at both ends, rendering the shape similar to a scabbard:

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That shape was obtained by hand application of Urushi lacquer, and that entire pen was made by a single master craftsman, a process that can take 3-6 months. I'm such a sucker for these old world craftsmanship techniques and standards, even though I know full well that mechanization may in fact lead to scale that can lower cost and prices!

Even the Nakaya cartridge is a little work of art, with this one sporting a goldfish rendered through the classic Maki-E technique:

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Also, the Urushi lacquer tends to become lighter and slightly more transparent over time, with use. So for this particular pen, the dragon painted underneath will actually emerge and grow more prominent with time and use - but it will depend on how I hold the pen. I find that "bespoke over time" aspect irresistible. This pen is also called the "Ascending Dragon" - quite fitting IMHO.

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One last point: ink quality and paper quality is also important for the best writing experience. FPs will tend to feather and smear with low quality or recycled paper. For every day use I carry around a small Field Notes notebook for my go-to to-do list; otherwise I only use Rhodia paper for my work portfolio and personal journal. For inks I like the variety and quality of Pilot Iroshizuku.
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

Yes! At last.

Spent a good piece of my Saturday out "tyre-kicking"....and ultimately brought one home.

Pics to follow....promise!

Or should I play the long tease? LOL biggrin.gif

Let's see it bro!!!
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Let's see it bro!!!

+1 what's the holdup?! smile.gif
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Sunday, February 31, 2015. #PerpetualCalendarMyAss #TimeForThis25YearOldBabyToBeServiced

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Can't wait to see it @Keith T

 

@no frills what is the service interval on a PC?  Also wouldn't they adjust the watch each service or is there a basic and more advanced service depending on the age of the PC?

 

No quick date on the BLNR but the jump hour makes changing the date a snap!  As for pens, I have been using an $8 roller ball gel pen for taking notes while studying for the CPA exam.  I am on ink cartridge #5 in 8 weeks which has allowed me to figure out which sized roller ball I like.  While I like the bold lines of the 1mm, the 0.7mm allows for razor sharp lines while jotting down notes plus it does build up a lot of ink on long drawn out lines.  I don't think a fountain pen would be great for note taking...

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Can't wait to see it @Keith T

 

@no frills what is the service interval on a PC?  Also wouldn't they adjust the watch each service or is there a basic and more advanced service depending on the age of the PC?

 

No quick date on the BLNR but the jump hour makes changing the date a snap!  As for pens, I have been using an $8 roller ball gel pen for taking notes while studying for the CPA exam.  I am on ink cartridge #5 in 8 weeks which has allowed me to figure out which sized roller ball I like.  While I like the bold lines of the 1mm, the 0.7mm allows for razor sharp lines while jotting down notes plus it does build up a lot of ink on long drawn out lines.  I don't think a fountain pen would be great for note taking...


No real hard and fast rules re: service interval times aside from the standard "every three to five years." Although I rotate across watches, my perp cals are on a wonder so they are pretty much in continuous use - I'll likely stick to a full service every five years because of that.

As far as a more involved session for service, I think that largely depends on how many parts need to be replaced, how rare the piece is (and if the parts are easily available). Patek will assess the watch and make recommendations as to what they plan to do and which parts they plan to replace; you have to give final approval (for example, "no, don't polish").

Also, a perpetual calendar is the "lowest" classification for their Grand Complication category, so it should be relatively easy and quick compared to some of the bigger pieces, some of which may need to be sent back to Geneva as there are only a handful of watchmakers that Patek authorizes to service those beasts.

In general service times are pretty long - six months or more. It's a problem that Patek has been trying to address for some time.

Good luck with the CPA exams!!!
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Starting with a few of the runners-up....

Apologies in advance for my very non-RFX photography skills. And I swear I don't always wear wrist-raff as such, but mimo absolutely insisted.

Regular readers will recall that I'm pretty much a stainless steel sports model kind of guy, if you look at my overall collection to date. I also have a couple of vintage watches and a few timepieces amongst the family that could be considered more dressy. But ever since I've gotten quite serious about this "passion", I have lacked what I'd consider a nice, simple, elegant dress watch.

Not being a true baller like frills and several others around TWAT (much respect for all of you--seriously), but I just couldn't really play in the Patek complication arena. Well, I could.. but then I'd be cheating my kids out of their 529 plans LOL. So my sweet spot was a bit lower than that, um....stratosphere.

Really wanted something that would be versatile, that would also be classic, and that would look straight up killer on a nice strap, especially for wearing with a suit. It had to go nice under a shirt cuff, and it could not be too large.

Extra points for a great (recognizable?) brand, and it would of course need to be high-quality. Something that perhaps my son might be proud to wear many (hopefully *very* many) years from now. biggrin.gif And I did want it to be precious metal.

So I've been shopping around for awhile now. Or "researching" as we say.

It's been a blast. And I've shared some thoughts and ideas here along the journey, and a few pics even.

But enough rambling.

Let me show you first what I DID NOT purchase, but three "finalists"....all watches that I very strongly considered after poking around for several months.


The Piaget Altiplano, such an underrated jewel...just gorgeous, IMO. They have several 40 mm iterations, but this one at 38 very nearly stole my heart :





The Vacheron Patrimony Small Seconds, basically needs no introduction, (which is good, because crappy pic). As subtle as they come, with just a tremendous, delicious VC movement:





And the Grande Reverso Ultra Thin Duo, a super-sweet JLC that's really two watches in one:





They were all really great timepieces-- but all bridesmaids, so to speak.
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And the one that I chose to call my own.....


Jaeger-LeCoultre Grande Reverso Ultra Thin








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I suppose I could go full-out watch nerd and do a comparison breakdown of all the specifications, or try to wax eloquent about this particular selection and what I think makes it so special.

But as is usually the case with my watches, it comes down to the fact that I couldn't NOT obtain it.

Or as you frequently hear in horological circles: it was the one that smiles back at me.

Feels awesome on the wrist and the size is juuuuuust right.

My first JLC!

Possibly not the last...
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Congrats from a fellow ultra thin owner! Stunning piece, enjoy it.
post #41427 of 48312
Congrats man. Great purchase, and certain no losers in your list of finalists.
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Patek will assess the watch and make recommendations as to what they plan to do and which parts they plan to replace; you have to give final approval (for example, "no, don't polish").
Patek does a bit more than recommend parts to be replaced...sometimes it's a bit closer to insisting. A guy I knew bought an older Nautilus from the 80's. He wore it for 2 years and sent it in for service. They told him the gold rotor should be replaced(I believe it's attachment area that was wearing). He wasn't sure if he wanted to spend the roughly $2k to replace it. However, they told him if he did not replace it they would not warranty the service on the watch. He felt it was crazy to spend what service cost on it and not get a warranty for the work done, and he felt they were forcing him to replace it, so he authorized the new rotor... But was a bit sour on the brand after that and he sold the watch shortly after getting it back. Being fair to Patek if a watch isn't keeping good time or achieving a good power reserve, they don't want to keep getting a watch back and eat repair costs if someone doesn't follow their recommendations.
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Originally Posted by Keith T View Post

And the one that I chose to call my own.....


Jaeger-LeCoultre Grande Reverso Ultra Thin


Congrats Keith! Hope you had fun... Those were some beautiful runner ups! Also JLC makes some amazing watches... But the ultra thin Reverso models are my favorites from them. Enjoy it in good health and congrats again! That ultra thin is stunning!!!
Edited by Dino944 - 3/2/15 at 8:05am
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I'm considering purchasing a Panerai during my trip to Italy in May. How do the prices in Europe (Italy in particular) compare to the prices in the US? I came across a website (www.thewatchquote.com) that estimates 4200 euros for a watch that seems to sell for around $7k here. Is it possible that there could be that much discrepancy across borders?
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Beautiful choice. Wear in good health.

On a related note, I really like the JLC ultra thin duo but can't get past the numeral at 12. Oddly enough, it looks like the stainless version has sticks at 12 which I think is more balanced. I wonder what goes into the decisions on how much homogeny is desired across metals.
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