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Speaking of Seiko, just placed an order for a Shogun diver. It's a midrange hardened and DLC coated titanium diver. I've been interested in hardened steel watches due to my scratchophobia and looked at Sinn and Damasko but didn't really love the way they looked. I like the way Bremonts look, but to the points discussed above, just don't really buy the brand for what it is. All of the hardened watches I thought about had a 7750 or 2824 movement, so pretty utilitarian. The Shogun's movement is said to be roughly equivalent to a 2824, although I suspect 2824 at it's lowest levels and not what you'd see in a Tudor Pelagos which is another watch I looked at. One of the big draws of the Tudor was the fact that it was made from titanium, although the related drawback of titanium is that it's a scratch magnet.

Long story short, when I heard about the Shogun everything just sort of clicked into place. Because it's a JDM watch I haven't seen one in person, but I feel pretty comfortable it will work for me and in the off chance it doesn't, I can easily sell it to someone at my cost. This will complete my current watch purchasing rampage. I feel like I was fortunate to thread the needle with the rising dollar before everything reprices, although I suppose the Nomos and Seiko won't necessarily need to reprice.
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@Dino944, are you saying you triple dog dare me?

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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post
 

Oh wow. I thought it would be similar to the RO at 50m. That makes the Nautilus even cooler.

The RO Ultra thin doesn't use a screw down crown...I believe the Nautilus does.  IIRC 15300 and 15400 both use screw down crowns and are WR to 100m.  

 

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Long story short, when I heard about the Shogun everything just sort of clicked into place. Because it's a JDM watch I haven't seen one in person, but I feel pretty comfortable it will work for me and in the off chance it doesn't, I can easily sell it to someone at my cost. This will complete my current watch purchasing rampage. I feel like I was fortunate to thread the needle with the rising dollar before everything reprices, although I suppose the Nomos and Seiko won't necessarily need to reprice.

Congrats on your Shogun!  Looking forward to seeing some wrist shots.  

 

Its important to remember that depending on where you live repricing isn't necessarily upward.   Although Patek increased prices on Feb 10th  in the Eurozone, they also reduced prices by 7% in the US and China. 

 

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@Dino944, are you saying you triple dog dare me?

Go for it! :devil: 

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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

Speaking of Seiko, just placed an order for a Shogun diver. It's a midrange hardened and DLC coated titanium diver. I've been interested in hardened steel watches due to my scratchophobia and looked at Sinn and Damasko but didn't really love the way they looked. I like the way Bremonts look, but to the points discussed above, just don't really buy the brand for what it is. All of the hardened watches I thought about had a 7750 or 2824 movement, so pretty utilitarian. The Shogun's movement is said to be roughly equivalent to a 2824, although I suspect 2824 at it's lowest levels and not what you'd see in a Tudor Pelagos which is another watch I looked at. One of the big draws of the Tudor was the fact that it was made from titanium, although the related drawback of titanium is that it's a scratch magnet.

Long story short, when I heard about the Shogun everything just sort of clicked into place. Because it's a JDM watch I haven't seen one in person, but I feel pretty comfortable it will work for me and in the off chance it doesn't, I can easily sell it to someone at my cost. This will complete my current watch purchasing rampage. I feel like I was fortunate to thread the needle with the rising dollar before everything reprices, although I suppose the Nomos and Seiko won't necessarily need to reprice.

 

The Shogun really is about as good of a knock-around diver as anyone might need, in my humble opinion. My "beach watch" is a Seiko as well. Diving for volleyballs, no problem. Grabbing at something between jagged rocks, who cares? A durable, waterproof Seiko diver just makes sense.

 

Even if they are "derivative and characterless."

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A few years ago I considered a Nautilus.  However, the bracelet seemed a bit thinner, almost too thin for my liking as I wanted to wear it everyday...so I went with the 5711's nemesis the RO ultra thin 15202.  However, Frills is certainly proof the 5711 can withstand much more than just paperwork at a desk.  I don't subject my RO to half of the things Frills subjects his 5711 to, but then again I'm a bit of a scratch/dent avoidance fanatic.  If you are mainly working at a desk, you can go with either and be fine.  Try them on and go with whatever makes you smile the most. 

I need to see you for some training. I think I have one bad scratch or ding on every watch. Even though I've gotten to the point where I don't let it bother me, it would be nice if I could work on being a bit more careful.

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I cannot say that I have any interest in owning any Seiko watch ever. Just not my jam.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

The RO Ultra thin doesn't use a screw down crown...I believe the Nautilus does.  IIRC 15300 and 15400 both use screw down crowns and are WR to 100m.  

Congrats on your Shogun!  Looking forward to seeing some wrist shots.  

Its important to remember that depending on where you live repricing isn't necessarily upward.   Although Patek increased prices on Feb 10th  in the Eurozone, they also reduced prices by 7% in the US and China. 

Go for it! devil.gif  
Still only 50m with screw down crown.

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I'm not interested in this right now but I found the watch itself interesting. It's a Glashutte Senator Meissen special model that has a special enamel dial. Very glossy/white, comes off a bit milky in photos.

Glashutte Senator Meissen.

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I always quite enjoyed winding my Speedy Pros. As hotdog says below, it does put you in touch with your watch.
I don't think I weighed in on the original question, but I think the Speedy is a wonderful "versatile starter watch". It was my first real watch that I purchased. Unless you are in a suit 24 hours a day/7 days a week, I personally wouldn't worry about it. As others have said "I've seen worse". 

I would also suggest an Omega Ref. 2254.50. It's discontinued so you'd have to go pre-owned, but it is a great watch. I owned one for a while.

I have one of these on the way this week. Should be here on Thursday. It'll be my first watch and a sort of late birthday present to myself, so I'm pretty excited.
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I'm not interested in this right now but I found the watch itself interesting. It's a Glashutte Senator Meissen special model that has a special enamel dial. Very glossy/white, comes off a bit milky in photos.

Glashutte Senator Meissen.

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Is the dial enamel, or porcelain?

 

The dial looks like porcelain, and Meissen is a German town that's famous for its fine china and porcelain.

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

The RO Ultra thin doesn't use a screw down crown...I believe the Nautilus does.  IIRC 15300 and 15400 both use screw down crowns and are WR to 100m.  
 

I've been meaning to ask...how much do you guys trust the depth rating of watches 100 WR or more that do not have a screw down crown? Would you even take them swimming?
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I've been meaning to ask...how much do you guys trust the depth rating of watches 100 WR or more that do not have a screw down crown? Would you even take them swimming?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I plan to get the RO 15450 and it is 50m with a screw down crown. I really want to be able to swim with it. I guess just wading in a pool with it would be fine, but I probably wouldn't take it in the ocean. Guess I'll have to hang onto my Explorer to take on vacations.
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I just picked up this watch that I've become pretty fond of. I've really been liking the mesh bands lately. 

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Sorry about that, still new here.

 

It's good to hear that the nautilus can stand up to daily wear, I guess people tend to baby them a bit.

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I believe its 120m.  

A few years ago I considered a Nautilus.  However, the bracelet seemed a bit thinner, almost too thin for my liking as I wanted to wear it everyday...so I went with the 5711's nemesis the RO ultra thin 15202.  However, Frills is certainly proof the 5711 can withstand much more than just paperwork at a desk.  I don't subject my RO to half of the things Frills subjects his 5711 to, but then again I'm a bit of a scratch/dent avoidance fanatic.  If you are mainly working at a desk, you can go with either and be fine.  Try them on and go with whatever makes you smile the most. 

The Nautilus has never quite appealed to me. I know they probably share some DNA, but I feel the Royal Oak just does everything.. better. I tried on a friend's 5711 recently and it felt overall quite meh to me. At least it looks better than an Aquanaut though..

Besides, I paid significantly less for my 15400 than my friend did for his 5711 - the difference is enough to buy a sub with some cash leftover peepwall[1].gif
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