To be fair, they've disguised it pretty well - the date and subdials don't look lost in a big fat moon face like that MB. But yeah, it's still somehow depressing: insisting on a big fat case for modern fashion, but can't have the integrity to build or even adapt a movement to suit it. And it's not like there's any shortage of models for larger movements. After all, most technology started in pocket watches, and the seventy years since the wristwatch became common seem to have been dedicated to shrinking it...just go back in time for a base movement. After all, retro editions are rather trendy too, aren't they?
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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 2708post #40607 of 483122/5/15 at 4:51ampost #40608 of 483122/5/15 at 5:12ampost #40609 of 483122/5/15 at 5:24amQuote:Originally Posted by Dino944
Limited edition banana bread... that's fantastic! Thanks for a good laugh! That will go very nicely with this limited edition "Royal Wedding Donut" which was created by Dunkin Donuts to honor Prince William and Kate Middleton tying the knot. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I can always wash them down with some limited edition coffee...
I bought the whole shelf full and threw them in my safe. We'll see what I can get for them on eBay in a couple years.post #40610 of 483122/5/15 at 5:27ampost #40611 of 483122/5/15 at 5:53ampost #40612 of 483122/5/15 at 6:28ampost #40613 of 483122/5/15 at 6:30ampost #40614 of 483122/5/15 at 6:31am
They make some beautiful pieces (and some ugly pieces) but are treated like such an afterthought by Swatch. They don't seem to know what to do with them. I mean, Papa Swatch didn't even buy them a movement manufacturer!post #40615 of 483122/5/15 at 7:08amQuote:
No worries my friend. I just wanted to clarify, that other brands have been taken to task in the past.Quote:
I like some of their classic looking chronographs...but I don't love the overlapping sub dials on this one. The date 4:30 doesn't bother me on some watches, but I think the only one I like with overlapping subdials is the one below, but I wish it did not have a date. I'm finding that with chronographs I really prefer that they not have a date as there is already so much happening in a relatively small space.Quote:
Not a fan of the date. I think eliminating it would be a big improvement on this model.Quote:Originally Posted by Belligero
The subdials are enlarged and overlaid to disguise the fact that the base movement is far too small for the case. It looks better than the usual cross-eyed effect from smushed-together subdials, but why not just make the watch a better-looking 38 or 39 mm instead of 43 or whatever?
At least they took the effort to increase the diameter of the date wheel, unlike the typical lost-at-sea look from a normal-sized movement in an oversized case, but I agree that the 4:30 position is unfortunate, and I think that it would benefit from not having a date in the first place. Not the worst-looking watch by any means, but there are better Zenith models available.
Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.
Agreed, much of the design is dictated by using a relatively small movement from the past in a case that is larger than what was originally intended. I have seen some watches where I don't mind the date placement at 4:30, but as I mentioned above, I've found that I generally prefer chronographs not have a date at all, especially when they have a tachymeter. I know companies want to appeal to the masses, many who insist on watches having a date,...but sadly I find it often just adds clutter to a busy dial layout.
I've tried a few on, mostly at the insistence of a former AD I used to frequent, but I just don't find myself interested in owning one. I just don't connect with their designs. They are different but I almost feel like they are trying too hard to be different. Being different isn't difficult, its being better than the competition that's difficult. For what they cost there have always been watches from other brands that I would much rather own. They are good quality, but I sort of lump them in with Blancpain, as good quality watches that I don't want to own.post #40616 of 483122/5/15 at 7:36amI have been flirting with the idea of purchasing a 1675 Pepsi GMT for a while now. My biggest hesitation is that I am not knowledgeable when it comes to vintage watches.
I came across the below 1675 being sold by Analog Shift, which seems to be a fairly reputable vintage watch seller, sort of in the vein of Hodinkee. I exchanged a few emails with A/S and they informed me that the watch was fully serviced and cash was "professionally refinished" by ABC Watch Works about a year ago. Apparently it has never been overly polished by I cant really tell from the pics. Any thoughts? No boxes or papers though I dont think that is a dealbreaker for me. Would love to get the input of folks here.
http://www.analogshift.com/products/rolex-gmt-master-ref-1675-pepsi-bezelpost #40617 of 483122/5/15 at 7:56ampost #40618 of 483122/5/15 at 8:04amOther than the fact that you know in your head the watchmaker cut corners, is there anything else fundamentally wrong with using a small movement in a large case? I detect a bias in TWAT towards smaller watches but that can't be the whole story.
I too am not a fan of the date at 430 (though it looks just right on the Overseas for some reason) and can live without a date on watches in general (more often than not the date is wrong anyhow) but I love the lacquered white dial. Overlapping subdials and all.post #40619 of 483122/5/15 at 8:12am
Handled a few. Truly beautiful. Especially the dials. Might kop after I have 15 other watches.Quote:
I say no. If you have a great movement, and stylistically want to use a larger case, as long as the ring protects it I dont really care. Not every brand needs to develop an entirely new movement every time they make a watch a little bigger. I mean. They could. But would you be ok with the inherently huge price bump required to cover the cost of developing a new movement just so there is no need for a ring between the case and movement?post #40620 of 483122/5/15 at 8:30am
I guess you have a choice. If you don't like the look of the small movement in the big case then you spend your money elsewhere. If you're not bothered, then fine. I bet a lot of punters simply don't even think about it. This must be the case with anyone who bought that MB!
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