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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Regarding GMTs, the 1675 is a classic, with the big lum markings, and by now original dials have a nice patina where the lum has usually turned a beautiful cream color.  However, you have to the be concerned about condition and looking for ones that haven't been polished dozens of times to the point of having very rounded edges on the lugs, is the dial original or a later service dial (service dial reduces the value and on some level collectibility, some people love the curvature of acrylic crystals while others prefer the more rugged synthetic sapphire, and will the lack of a quick set date  and lack of an independently adjustable hour hand (in place of a quickset) be an annoyance?

I like the 16710s.  My father had one for several years.  Its a good solid watch with the final changes/upgrades prior to the ceramic bezel models.  If you want a sort of interesting one, search for a late Z serial or an M serial.  These last versions of the 16710s are supposedly the only ones to have the newer cal 3186 with blue parachrom hair spring rather than a 3185 (although that's a good solid movement that powered many GMTs and Explorer IIs).  Your also get an SEL bracelet (rather than clam shell ends on older bracelets) and an independently adjustable hour hand (which can be used as a form of quick set for the date).  

As for the WG Pepsi GMT, I tried it on and its very nice.  However, I've owned a WG Rolex, and I lost interest in it quickly so I'd never do another.  It wasn't different enough from steel (yes some say its a stealth luxury model), but it looked so similar to the steel version of the same watch, that felt like too much $$$ tied up in a watch that didn't look different enough from my steel version.  If I were buying gold I'd want a model in YG or RG so I could at least see the difference between it and the steel model, or platinum which feels incredibly heavy, and is more rugged than gold, and which when polished doesn't lose much metal as gold.  Also, I haven't checked in years, but Rolex used to always plate their WG with Rhodium.  I tend to keep watches for a long time and I wouldn't want to have to deal with the hassle or replating at some point.  

Good luck with your journey to finding the right GMT cheers.gif

Thanks for your thoughts. WG Pepsi is definitely not an option right now. Though I thought I would be set on a Coke bezel, after seeing the WG Pepsi now I'm vaccilating between a Coke and a Pepsi.

I guess I will have to trawl the local pre-owned dealers to see what they have available.
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So, its February. Have MSRPs skyrocketed yet?

Not sure about US prices, but JLC increased the price of the watch I'm looking at by 10% in the European country where my AD is located.
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Not sure about US prices, but JLC increased the price of the watch I'm looking at by 10% in the European country where my AD is located.
So the AD is increasing the price of a watch which was already in his inventory?
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I have just noticed that the import of watches into the USA is not only controlled by Rolex.

"Please note that ...... cannot arrange for the delivery of Rolex, Tudor, Corum, Frank Muller and Piaget watches to the United States"

Also

"..... cannot arrange for the delivery of lots containing mother of pearl or ruby into the United States due to import restrictions."
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So, its February. Have MSRPs skyrocketed yet?

Well, I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Norway, Rolex only increased their prices by 8%. They're absorbing a lot of the shock by reducing their cost in CHF to dealers in this country, so that the price doesn't get prohibitive for shops and clients. Considering that their overhead actually is in Swiss Francs since they don't do any of that outsourcing BS, I'd say that's a pretty generous gesture.

Due to my recent spree, I wouldn't have minded a bigger jump as it would make my stash more valuable, but the thing is... I kinda like all of them — even that goofy Deepsea, which would be fun as a weekend watch and fits my wide wrist pretty well, plus the clasp is sublime — so I might just have to keep the entire pile. The purple-dialled OP is an instant favourite and has had the official sticker-ectomy last night. With my GMT IIs on permanent loan to my dad and one of my brothers, that leaves me with one for each day of the week:



Please forgive the extremely poor-quality photo. :P
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That Oysterquartz really is gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

So, its February. Have MSRPs skyrocketed yet?

Well, I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Norway, Rolex only increased their prices by 8%. They're absorbing a lot of the shock by reducing their cost in CHF to dealers in this country, so that the price doesn't get prohibitive for shops and clients. Considering that their overhead actually is in Swiss Francs since they don't do any of that outsourcing BS, I'd say that's a pretty generous gesture.

Due to my recent spree, I wouldn't have minded a bigger jump as it would make my stash more valuable, but the thing is... I kinda like all of them — even that goofy Deepsea, which would be fun as a weekend watch and fits my wide wrist pretty well, plus the clasp is sublime — so I might just have to keep the entire pile. The purple-dialled OP is an instant favourite and has had the official sticker-ectomy last night. With my GMT IIs on permanent loan to my dad and one of my brothers, that leaves me with one for each day of the week:



Please forgive the extremely poor-quality photo. :P

That goofy DeepSea is totally worth keeping!

Also, that Kaiju-level glidelock clasp will literally devour any other clasp out there. CHOMP!

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That Oysterquartz really is gorgeous.

Thanks!

Here's a little-known tidbit about the OQ: that is the most expensive movement Rolex has ever produced, according to my watchmaker buddy after his visit to HQ. As Dino has noted, they cost double what a Submariner did at the time of introduction. There's just so much to appreciate about the watch; the bracelet design is unique among all the ones that Rolex has produced, and the bevelled edges give it a subtle bit of pop that nothing else of theirs has. It's an elegant and refined watch, but with substantial presence — and it's magic on the wrist.

Of that whole pile, it's the one I'd likely choose if I needed a single do-anything watch. The 1675 is and will remain my favourite, but Rolex's über-quartz is still relatively unknown and I just love the style. It's also the toughest, most accurate and most anti-magnetic movement they've ever produced, plus it's completely rebuildable. The last one sold in 2007, so parts supply is assured for decades. Seriously, I haven't adjusted the time since the dial swap of two or three months ago, and it's still bang-on. Picking up a watch after a week or something and knowing it's within a second of reference time is kinda nice. Heck, it's worth having to any collector just to set the other Rollices to. I think they're going to start taking off...

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Also, that Kaiju-level glidelock clasp will literally devour any other clasp out there. CHOMP!

Oh, yeah. Dat thang is durrrrrty good.

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Not sure about US prices, but JLC increased the price of the watch I'm looking at by 10% in the European country where my AD is located.

Oh wow.
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So the AD is increasing the price of a watch which was already in his inventory?

I would imagine that the manufacture would require them to do that so the pricing would be equal across the board for identical models.
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I don't think pricing for Rolex or JLC in existing stock has risen in the UK. I checked earlier this week, and prices haven't changed yet.
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Originally Posted by gopherblue View Post

Not sure about US prices, but JLC increased the price of the watch I'm looking at by 10% in the European country where my AD is located.

Did you manage to kop before the price increased?
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Oh wow.
I would imagine that the manufacture would require them to do that so the pricing would be equal across the board for identical models.

Last I spoke with my dealer, she said prices would remain the same for current stock. Price increases would kick in for new stock.
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My Rolex AD in Ontario, Canada said Rolex requires them to raise pricing on all in stock models to the new pricing. Double edged sword, more profit but harder sell.

Apparently Swatch Group watches all went up 5-8%.

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Interesting stuff, aleks and Waterloo.

When is AP raising prices worldwide?
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Not sure about US prices, but JLC increased the price of the watch I'm looking at by 10% in the European country where my AD is located.

A friend of mine who lives part of the year in the Netherlands and part in Nice, said prices on Rolex had gone up by 10%.  He found one dealer who had not yet marked up his inventory, or hadn't completed it so he bought a new 36mm OP at the old price.  Not sure which country he was in when he made his purchase.

 

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So the AD is increasing the price of a watch which was already in his inventory?

I've seen some dealers do that.  Actually, several years ago my dad and I went into an AD and he looked at a JLC Geographic in white gold.  There had been a price increase but this watch was marked with the old price.   My dad had purchased several watches at this place. When he asked how much he could have it for they looked at the tag, and said they would have to discount it from the new price.  My dad asked why saying its clearly old stock and they paid the old cost for it.  They replied, that when they replace it they will have to pay more for the next one coming into stock.  My dad said yes, but you will charge the next purchaser more for it.    Before leaving my dad told them he would pay X amount for it based on the old price and no more.  They said no and my dad left without it.

 

Three weeks later they called and said he could have it for the discounted price he wanted based on the old MSRP.  But by then it was too late and he was able to tell them sorry, he already spent the money on another watch from another dealer...but thanks anyway.   

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