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Haha...my guess too!

Amd Dino, we have different definitions of "momentous". ūüėČ
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

I'll share a hint.  It sort of brings me back to the beginning of my journey collecting.  This is the modern but spiritual successor to my first "Good watch."

I got nuthin. : (

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MZ, that is superb.
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Excellent choice.

I've said it before, and I'll likely say it again. The pre-ceramic GMT II is the best watch ever made for a normal person.

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Well I've been thinking it's the best watch for me at least. I love the look of old GMTs after years and years of fading, I love the classic bones of it and the idea that it can be used for just about everything except diving. I had a watchbox full of watches I really liked but wanted one that I'd take with me or pass down and I wanted to someday be that old guy at the cafe drinking espresso with my sun-bleached GMT still ticking away so why not consolidate and start accumulating those dings now right?

 

I saved the Basculante and the Longines Spirit Chrono from the axe and now I've got a nice round three to move forward with.

 

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Dino's first good watch from my memory is when he ate a ton of Ramen and bought a Daytona in the 1990s.  Spiritual successor confuses me slightly in that I thought about the BLNR but think it is something else.  Considering that I think he went the Zenith route since the old Daytona's used a Zenith based movement.  I forget if he has spoken on Zenith but it is slightly a successor I suppose.

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Well I've been thinking it's the best watch for me at least. I love the look of old GMTs after years and years of fading, I love the classic bones of it and the idea that it can be used for just about everything except diving. I had a watchbox full of watches I really liked but wanted one that I'd take with me or pass down and I wanted to someday be that old guy at the cafe drinking espresso with my sun-bleached GMT still ticking away so why not consolidate and start accumulating those dings now right?

 

 

Amen, and likewise, which is why a well-worn Pepsi is the next one on my list.

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post


Excellent choice.

I've said it before, and I'll likely say it again. The pre-ceramic GMT II is the best watch ever made for a normal person.

cheers.gif

 

 

Since Pepsi is the topic of discussion (and something I've also been thinking about lately) can you give us a quick distinction between the 16750 & 16710?

 

Thx in advance sir.

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Did someone say Pepsi????

 

 

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Lol, I was about to ask you post that pic in the hopes that it would incentivize MZ to add a super jubilee to his collection. It is really so perfect on the pepsi.
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Lol, I was about to ask you post that pic in the hopes that it would incentivize MZ to add a super jubilee to his collection. It is really so perfect on the pepsi.
It really does look amazing on the jubilee and it is something I will have to source one more "fun" funds are available.
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Dino's first good watch from my memory is when he ate a ton of Ramen and bought a Daytona in the 1990s.  Spiritual successor confuses me slightly in that I thought about the BLNR but think it is something else.  Considering that I think he went the Zenith route since the old Daytona's used a Zenith based movement.  I forget if he has spoken on Zenith but it is slightly a successor I suppose.

I could be mistaken, but I thought he started of with a plexi GMT, which was later sold to get ... um ... an Explorer or a Submariner or something.

It could well be a Daytona of some kind, but Dino don't kop used so it would have to be one of the current models. He's pretty sorted for Daytonæ, and I highly doubt that any current Zenith is in the cards for him, though they are decent watches. That's why I'm guessing BLNR.
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Since Pepsi is the topic of discussion (and something I've also been thinking about lately) can you give us a quick distinction between the 16750 & 16710?

Thx in advance sir.

Gotta run so I'll make this one fast.

16750:
3075 movement (hi-beat, balance cock, quickset date, non-independent GMT hand), plexi crystal, matte or gloss dial depending on year of manufacture, standard clasp, black or red/blue insert options

16710:
3185 movement (hi-beat, full balance bridge, quickset date, independent GMT hand), sapphire crystal, gloss dial only, Fliplock clasp; black, red/black, red//blue insert options


As much as I love the look and feel of plexi crystals, sapphire is better than plastic for everyday use, and the 3185 is still the current standard for Rolex movements; it's near-identical to the 3186 and 3187 in the current GMT II and Explorer II, which means parts and service availability basically forever. The older movements will also be fine, but at some point during most of our lifetimes, they'll have to go to the vintage department, which means a longer wait. Among the company's movements, the 30XX variants are the least favourite of my watchmaker bud Henrik, but as he puts it: "It's still a Rolex movement, so it's limited in how bad it can actually be."
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I'm sure I've missed a few minor points like the 5.3 mm vs. 6.0 mm crown diameter, but that should basically cover it. The 16750 is a great watch, but someone who's not a watch nerd, like my dad, is better off with the somewhat more robust and convenient 16710 ‚ÄĒ which is why he's currently wearing one of mine.
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Still, we're comparing two of the best practical watches ever produced, in my opinion.
Edited by Belligero - 1/29/15 at 9:49am
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Question regarding negotiation of price with an AD:

I am in discussions with an AD in Europe regarding a JLC Perpetual Ultrathin in WG. What range of discounts should I be able to expect? Both the AD and I know that the dollar is relatively strong at the moment and that I will be getting the VAT back. Presently, on top of that they are offering ~15% off the RRP and the AD is throwing in an additional JLC strap.

Should I seek a bit more, discount-wise?

Thoughts?
Edited by gopherblue - 1/29/15 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by MZhammer View Post

It really does look amazing on the jubilee and it is something I will have to source one more "fun" funds are available.

Keep usposted!
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Question regarding negotiation of price with an AD:
I am in discussions with an AD in Europe regarding a JLC Perpetual Ultrathin in WG. What range of discounts should I be able to expect? Both the AD and I know that the dollar is relatively strong at the moment and that I will be getting the VAT back. Presently, on top of that they are offering ~15% off the RRP and the AD is throwing in an additional JLC strap.
Thoughts?

Sounds legit to me.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Lol, I was about to ask you post that pic in the hopes that it would incentivize MZ to add a super jubilee to his collection. It is really so perfect on the pepsi.

 

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It really does look amazing on the jubilee and it is something I will have to source one more "fun" funds are available.


For me the jubilee just completes the look, and the super jubilee makes this just a much better proposition. When I set out to buy my Pepsi I just went ahead and purchased the Super jubilee at the same time. It's never been on the oyster bracelet since then.

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Cool, congrats on the incoming 116710 BLNR. What do I win for guessing correctly? biggrin.gif

You got it!  BLNR is on the way.  Drinks on me if you ever visit my area of the US!   

 

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Haha...my guess too!

And Dino, we have different definitions of "momentous". ūüėČ

 

Since you also got it, again drinks on me if you are ever in my area.  Well, yes its still momentous to me...just not probably not something that will cause the "Earth to stand still." ;)  And as always thanks again for the laughs

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Dino's first good watch from my memory is when he ate a ton of Ramen and bought a Daytona in the 1990s.  Spiritual successor confuses me slightly in that I thought about the BLNR but think it is something else.  Considering that I think he went the Zenith route since the old Daytona's used a Zenith based movement.  I forget if he has spoken on Zenith but it is slightly a successor I suppose.

My friend, its like they say about tests...never change your original answer.  Your initial thoughts were correct, I'm joining you in the BLNR club...if you don't mind.  ;)  My first good watch was a plexi GMT (back in the day there was no GMT II).  It was black bezel model, and they had just changed to having white gold trim around the lum, this was in late 1984.  I had convinced my parents to let me cash some bonds from my Bar Mitzvah.  They let me cash in the bonds and order a Rolex, but I didn't wear the watch until I was older.  However, it was cool to have my very own Rolex, and on occasion be able to take it out, and wear it to a nice place with my parents.  Oh and that was back in the day when discounts were deep and everywhere....25% off on my first steel Rolex.  

 

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

I could be mistaken, but I thought he started of with a plexi GMT, which was later sold to get ... um ... an Explorer or a Submariner or something.

It could well be a Daytona of some kind, but Dino don't kop used so it would have to be one of the current models. He's pretty sorted for Daytonæ, and I highly doubt that any current Zenith is in the cards for him, though they are decent watches. That's why I'm guessing BLNR.
Gotta run so I'll make this one fast.
 

You are correct a Plexi GMT was my first good watch.   I had it for 10 years and then traded it for a two tone Sub (had that a year), then traded that for my first Daytona (a tutone white dial 16523)...that started me down a Daytona kick for a while.  

 

I briefly considered a dabbling in vintage market...but I'm such a stickler for condition and a "Full set" box and papers that it both limits what I would consider and generally results in a price that will bring tears to one's eyes. 

 

Of the modern Rolex watches available the BLNR really spoke to me, so upon finding one I pulled the trigger...with dare I say a bit of encouragement from Frills. 

 

Oh, and funny thing a buddy of mine in the Netherlands just purchased a new 36mm Oyster Perpetual like yours! He said he figured he would do it before prices went up, as he just returned from Geneva and said he heard talk of a nasty price increase on its way in Europe. 

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AWESOME KOP, DINO!!!


Pics asnap plox.
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