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I can't help feeling sad for what the charity didn't get out of this.  I'm sure we all have a day dream of finding some treasure for nothing in a charity shop, car boot sale or similar.  But if such a thing were to happen, based purely on the unwitting honesty of the vendor, wouldn't it be nice to at least share some of the loot?  I mean, he knew, the person working in the charity shop thought it was just a dirty old watch with no strap, but at some point, someone donated that with the aim of its being sold for maximum benefit to charity.

 

Anyway, I guess this is the place to talk about watches rather than personal morality...and who can really say they wouldn't take it? I think the difference comes when you have the intention of turning it into cash as soon as possible: an eBay bargain is one thing, but dancing out of the charity shop as fast as you can feels a bit different.

Actually, mimo has a good point here. On reflection, if I'd sold it I like to think I'd have made a decent donation to the charity. If I'd have kept it then maybe likewise.

post #40127 of 48312
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post
 

What do you like for dual time or worldtimer watches? I'm about to move to London for two years and I'll be managing a team back in the states, also must maintain contact with several people in the far East. Seems sensible to have something on my wrist that'll tell time in at least two places at a glance.

 

Here are three options I'm considering:

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I own the Nomos (though the original version) and find it quite easy to read. I was between the Nomos and the JLC Master Geographic and found I preferred the Nomos in the end. The only issue you may have is the lack of date.

post #40128 of 48312

Heimat's where the heart is...

post #40129 of 48312
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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

I own the Nomos (though the original version) and find it quite easy to read. I was between the Nomos and the JLC Master Geographic and found I preferred the Nomos in the end. The only issue you may have is the lack of date.

 

What was it that tipped the scale toward the Nomos? I haven't seen that particular model in person yet but my guess would be that the finish on the JLC would be the more remarkable, while the Nomos, the more straightforward instrument.

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Nomos Pros: Ease of reading. Time zone/Travel Time is connected to the main hour hand, home time is the smaller 24 hour display at 3 (to me this is the appropriate way). Movement finishing. Tactile second time zone adjustment. Depth, layers, and surfaces of dial. Fit of watch on wrist and versatility. Weight.
Nomos Cons: No marker for timezones who observe Daylight Savings. No date. Can only move timezones in one direction

 

JLC Pros: Case finishing. Depth/layers/surfaces of dial, Date, Daylight Saving Markers. Timezones can move in either direction.

JLC Cons: The subdial is the dial you read when traveling and it's not that easy to read at a glance while your home time is the main dial. The dial is a bit cluttered, especially sfor the travel time being the subdial time. Main hour hand jumps when switching timezones. It's a winky face design.

 

If I were impartial, there isn't enough between them to justify the cost difference. And if I let my heart speak, when having both on the wrist at the same time, the Nomos was just better (to me) in every respect. So it wasn't a matter of money, I just straight preferred the Nomos from head to toe (though that is a personal opinion and should only be taken as such). The only thing that is irksome for me is the fact that I can't go both directions on the time zones, but it takes less than 20 seconds to get through the 24 zones, so no big deal. Plus the feel on the pusher is very nice.

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So it's been a tough couple of days (TWAT wise that is). I started out wanting the 36mm oyster perpetual with blue dial (someone in here, I forget who koped a few months back and it was beautiful). Didn't really do much about it though figuring it was something that would be easily available and shelved it for future purchase.

Fast forward a few months and suddenly the Swiss franc is in an upward spiral. Prices are more or less guaranteed to go up - no one knows exactly by how much but it's definitely going to be significant. Everyone goes into a watch buying frenzy (I kid you not, more on this later) and yours truly decides to get in on the action too, notwithstanding he had just sworn off purchasing so save up for grail watch.

Saturday. Manage to convince the wife a watch purchase now isn't the worst idea ever. Visit my friendly dealer to check out dial colors for the oyster perpetual but don't actually try any on. This is where the two tone monstrosity from a couple of pages back first comes in. Randomly caught my eye and fell in love, then decided I hated it, looked some more and fell in love again, looked at sticker price and balk. Leave in a rush but promise to be back.

Sunday. Am in constant communication with my dealer rep who shows me a bunch of other stuff I can consider. Definitely going to kop at this point, but what?

Monday. Walk in, am presented with these 3 beauties.




From left to right - rhodium dial with Arabic numerals, blue azzuro dial with Roman numerals, blue dial with stick markers. Am dissuaded from the oyster perpetual because at 36 mm it's too small for my wrist size.

Next two hours were pretty agonizing. Blue dial quickly gets eliminated from the running by the wife, who says blue azzuro is much more interesting. Down to the rhodium (my preference) and blue azzuro (the wife).





I try both on, stare at the dials for what seems like forever. The blue azzuro dial is really quite special, but then again so is the rhodium dial. I like the lavender(?) Arabic numerals on the rhodium dial, wife thinks its slightly feminine and lobbies hard for the blue azzuro. Back and forth.

I eventually kop the rhodium dial but if you ask me why I can't quite put a finger on it. Edged out the blue azzuro dial but only the slightest of margins. I think I would've been happy with any of the three.



On the watch buying frenzy - business is booming at the dealer I go to. Mondays are the quietest in retail, which is when I like to go since I can get the best service. Today looked like a quiet Saturday. They are usually pretty well stocked, but this is what the sub display looked like today:



Two in full yellow gold, and one blue white gold. No more steel Yachtmasters. No more Explorer Is. The two tone DJ abomination I was originally looking at was sold on Sunday evening so I didn't even have the luxury of rejecting it. Nuts.
Edited by aleksandr - 1/26/15 at 7:06am
post #40132 of 48312
First eliminated was best choice (IMO).

Rhodium dial is the nicer of the two remaining because of the numerals, but both are too cluttered and crowded.
NVM - I see you did choose the better option in the end.
post #40133 of 48312
Just curious: why are you not considering this one (not my pic):

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He may be now, I did bring it up, though I still suggested the Nomos. I know, shocking.

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The Nomos is lovely, and it's on my short list. But the JLC's are on a different level. I'm in the same boat in that I do business with people in different time zones. I bought the world geo for that purpose
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Have you put on the Weltzeit?

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I admit that I havent. Not many retailers in south Florida (supposedly tourneau but I haven't seen them stock this model). Do you disagree about it being on a lower level than JLC?
post #40138 of 48312
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

What do you like for dual time or worldtimer watches? I'm about to move to London for two years and I'll be managing a team back in the states, also must maintain contact with several people in the far East. Seems sensible to have something on my wrist that'll tell time in at least two places at a glance.

Here are three options I'm considering:












I went through this thought process recently as I wanted a GMT watch for the occasional overseas trips I go on.

I really like the look of the Lange Saxonia Dual Time, but didn't feel comfortable traveling with a GBP 22K watch on my wrist. So I went for this in the end. Haven't traveled with it yet, but happy with the look and the functionality.

post #40139 of 48312
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post
 

What do you like for dual time or worldtimer watches? I'm about to move to London for two years and I'll be managing a team back in the states, also must maintain contact with several people in the far East. Seems sensible to have something on my wrist that'll tell time in at least two places at a glance.

 

Here are three options I'm considering:

 

 

Definitely the JLC.  I find them more versatile, less cluttered looking, although some may disagree.  The quality of all are very nice, but for me the JLCs would be the front runners.  The best thing to do is try them on in person and go with which every one really makes you smile!

 

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Originally Posted by aleksandr View Post

So it's been a tough couple of days (TWAT wise that is). I started out wanting the 36mm oyster perpetual with blue dial (someone in here, I forget who koped a few months back and it was beautiful). Didn't really do much about it though figuring it was something that would be easily available and shelved it for future purchase.
I eventually kop the rhodium dial but if you ask me why I can't quite put a finger on it. Edged out the blue azzuro dial but only the slightest of margins. I think I would've been happy with any of the three.


 

 

Congrats on the new addition!  It looks great!  I like all three of these far more than the one you were considering over the weekend.  The Blue Azzuro was interesting, but on a Rolex I prefer at least the hand have lum...which the blue did not.  I just find it useful for daily wearers, or watches that are not pure dress watches. 

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Originally Posted by TheTukker View Post

Just curious: why are you not considering this one (not my pic):

One of my favorite JLC models.  So simply to use and so well done, that both VC and AP have used the basic movement for their Dual Time Royal Oak and Dual Time Overseas.  Great watch!!!

post #40140 of 48312
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

I admit that I havent. Not many retailers in south Florida (supposedly tourneau but I haven't seen them stock this model). Do you disagree about it being on a lower level than JLC?

As far as in general, for the brands, definitely. And for those models specifically, certainly on the case. I don't think anyone would argue those points. But, even though the complication in the Nomos is simpler on those two models, I find it superior. Switching timezones doesn't cause the hour hand to jump/wobble/wiggle/whatever on the Nomos as it does on the JLC. Switching timezones is also much more tactile and enjoyable for me on the Nomos vs the JLC. I find the movement finishing on the Nomos more pleasing; JLC would be better served putting a solid caseback on a lot of it's models as their finish is rather industrial (for lack of a better term). And legibility is definitely better on the Nomos; JLC put the travel time in the wrong place, IMO, and the dial is a bit cluttered. Having them both on the wrist, I thought the Nomos (as a total package) just blew it away, but a lot of that came down to personal preferences and what I was looking for in a GMT/Travel Time watch. The silvered dial (not the blue pictured, I have not handled the blue dial) on the Nomos is really, really great and I'm not sure that comes through in pictures. Though if you just hold both of them, the case and the strap will tell the story of JLC being on a different level for sure. I think when you put them on your wrist, use them (for me, the true key), and maybe give a peak at the back side is where the Weltzeit really closes the gap.

 

 

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