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post #40111 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Axelman 17 View Post

The marker at 9 ruins it for me. Hope that is what you were looking for.

 

+1. I don't understand why it has the overstated Roman numerals around the rest of the dial, and then a large marker at 9 o'clock instead. Yes, I realise that it's no doubt there because there's no 3 o'clock on the other side because of the date, but to me, it still looks really out of place and unbalanced. 

post #40112 of 48312
I'm loath to jump on the bandwagon, contrarian that I am, but I would also vote down the dial due to the marker placement.
post #40113 of 48312
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Originally Posted by aleksandr View Post

Am also trying to convince the wife that this is an excellent time to purchase a Swiss watch (notwithstanding I'm supposed to stop purchases to save up for my grail), though the selling is a tough uphill struggle considering she just purchased one for me at Christmas.

Nevertheless I managed to find my way into a local Rolex dealer to check out the oyster perpetual dial colors (I like blue) when this caught my eye.

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I rather suspect most here will say "Abomination!" or something along those lines, and I personally have a somewhat love hate relationship. I've also sworn off TT /and/ yellow gold in watches. But something keeps drawing me back. The combination of dial, and green numerals seems to just work with the two tone bracelet. And that bezel. Help.

I don't mind the tutone models.  I also don't mind the fluted beze,l which hides scratches better than a smooth bezel.   However the dial as others have said really ruins this watch.  I've never liked their gray dial on tutone watches.  One of my relatives had a tutone with gray dial with Romans, and I always thought it was unattractive and difficult to read the time at a glance. The gray color never worked well with yellow gold of the tutone, it seemed to fight it.  In addition, there wasn't enough contrast between the gray and the yellow gold hands so it was tough to read the time.  The gray and gold were a bad choice even in the Rolex Daytona world, while the tutones were not as popular the single metal models,  it seemed my ADs were really always stuck with the tutone gray dial models (white, black and even champagne sold faster).  IMHO the gray should be reserved for all white metal models.  If going for a tutone watch I'd probably want something with more contrast such as black, blue, white etc.  I don't like champagne dials, but if you don't care about contrast, it still looks better with the tutone models than the gray.  As for other aspects of the dial, I just don't like the green Romans.  Rolex may use green as their color, but it just doesn't tie in or work...they might as well have used orange.  Then there is the 9 marker.  I get that its suppose to create symmetry with the date but it doesn't.  For years Rolex put always but a 9 marker there.  I don't see how a big honking luminescent marker creates symmetry or improves upon what they traditionally did.  If you love the design then of course go for it, as you are the one who will be wearing it.  Good luck. 

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I don't like the two tone, the fluted bezel, the Romans, the date, the marker at 9....but all together it's a magnificent horror.  It dares you to love it and wear it.  It's unashamedly garish.  I don't entirely hate that: if you want bling, this is it.

But.  In that case, why the grey dial?  I love grey (I think they call it "steel") on the Oyster Perpetual, because it suits the understated mood.  But this needs to be bolder.  Blue would be awesome.  But maybe in person the green numerals are enough.

If you love it, go for it.  Sometimes it's OK to be crazy.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Although I didn't really notice the odd marker at 9, so what most people apparently consider the deal breaker doesn't bother me that much.

Will most probably wind up getting an oyster perpetual, but we shall see. Am gonna sleep on it for a few days, though my dealer - who usually isn't pushy at all - tells me I should decide soon, once they sell out they have no idea what pricing for new stocks will be. And stocks have been moving very fast the past week or so.
post #40115 of 48312
On that point I suspect he might be full of shit. I think this might be one of the few Rolexes where a decent discount from an AD is possible. Might be worth paging the Stitchmeister.
post #40116 of 48312
^^^ I heard the same thing re pricing from my European AD. Basically, prices are going up 5-7% in response to the currency move and many brands are holding back stock until the pricing goes up.

JLC is doing this, which is why I am pulling the trigger ASAP on a perpetual ultra thin. Now someone convince me to get the steel instead of the WG.
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My friend/AD told me as well, he was speaking of an increase at 8%, starting from February on.

post #40118 of 48312
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Originally Posted by gopherblue View Post

Now someone convince me to get the steel instead of the WG.
All things being equal, I would generally choose SS over the other more expensive white metals. But in this case, with the price being so close and my preference for the darker markers on the WG........I'd go for the gold.




WG--RG--SS

That said, I'd choose the RG over both of them.
post #40119 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Tried and True View Post

All things being equal, I would generally choose SS over the other more expensive white metals. But in this case, with the price being so close and my preference for the darker markers on the WG........I'd go for the gold.




WG--RG--SS

That said, I'd choose the RG over both of them.

Is white gold as soft as yellow gold? Does it scratch as easily as it does? If yes, that's a reason alone to go with steel over white gold.
post #40120 of 48312
Watches and pen. These are my greatest hits: a 1948 LeCoultre, a late 1980s Montblanc sterling silver ball point pen, and an Omega Speedy from around 1996.
post #40121 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Superfluous View Post


Is white gold as soft as yellow gold? Does it scratch as easily as it does? If yes, that's a reason alone to go with steel over white gold.

 

Same kt should be same gold content be it yellow, white or rose, so they're close in my experience.

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Does anyone here with white gold watches have experience with the rhodium plating on the white gold wearing off over time? 

 

I don't have any white gold jewellery or watches, as I prefer stainless steel or platinum, but I have heard from others that the rhodium plating that gives white gold its shine can wear off over time and that WG jewellery can need to be re-plated as a consequence. Of course, I'd guess that this happens more with rings, rather than watches, but it still seems to be a legitimate concern, especially if you're paying a considerable premium for WG over steel. 

post #40123 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Superfluous View Post


Is white gold as soft as yellow gold? Does it scratch as easily as it does? If yes, that's a reason alone to go with steel over white gold.

Goes is a relatively soft metal.  White gold, YG, RG, they all show scratches more easily than steel.   The bigger issue with white gold was raised below by Journeyman, the plating of white gold.

 

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Does anyone here with white gold watches have experience with the rhodium plating on the white gold wearing off over time? 

 

I don't have any white gold jewellery or watches, as I prefer stainless steel or platinum, but I have heard from others that the rhodium plating that gives white gold its shine can wear off over time and that WG jewellery can need to be re-plated as a consequence. Of course, I'd guess that this happens more with rings, rather than watches, but it still seems to be a legitimate concern, especially if you're paying a considerable premium for WG over steel. 

Most white gold watches are plated with rhodium, another precious metal.  The reason why is depending on the alloy composition, WG is generally a sort of gray color, and not a bright white color that we expect to see.  Its often the reason why WG version of a watch costs more than YG or RG.   Lange is one of the few companies that used a WG composition that does not require rhodium plating.  I am not sure if JLC's white gold is currently plated with rhodium.  Over time Rhodium can wear and even chip off.  Chipping off is more common with rings that because they come in contact with so many things.  However, I have heard of WG wearing or chipping off of watches.  Rhodium plating also limits what can be done if you get some serious dings or scratches unless you want to pay to re-plate it, which can be expensive...IIRC I've heard quotes of $1,000 or more.  Years ago I owned one white gold watch, a Rolex Daytona, and I wouldn't choose WG again.  I also wouldn't buy anything that is plated. 

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What do you like for dual time or worldtimer watches? I'm about to move to London for two years and I'll be managing a team back in the states, also must maintain contact with several people in the far East. Seems sensible to have something on my wrist that'll tell time in at least two places at a glance.

 

Here are three options I'm considering:

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #40125 of 48312
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

What do you like for dual time or worldtimer watches?

I like the Rolex GMT, which I believe can track 3 time zones.

Also, at the risk of sounding like a broken record... https://www.ochsundjunior.ch/watches/two-time-zones/


Edited by scottcw - 1/25/15 at 9:00pm
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