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Love the 50 Fathoms!
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Anyone have photos of a Camille Bordeaux colored strap?  Tough to make out what it may look like from the online strap generator.  I'm thinking Mafoofan may have had one on his black Portuguese, but not sure and photos I've seen of that watch don't focus on the strap.  Anyone else had experience with some of the less expected strap colors from CF?

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I've been following this thread for years. I've learned a lot from it and thank you all for the discussion. I have always wanted to participate.

What is the TWATer's consensus on wearing a PAM luminor with a suit? Just too casual? Why is a Speedy Pro viewed as being more fitting with a suit? Too me they both seem sport/tool watches at heart. But, this thread gives me more confidence on wearing a Speedy with a suit than a Pam.

I am on the verge of buying my first proper watch and, for the time being, need it to serve a broad range of settings. I will have a Pam and a Speedy at some point but need to choose the order. Thanks for any input.
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I've been following this thread for years. I've learned a lot from it and thank you all for the discussion. I have always wanted to participate.

What is the TWATer's consensus on wearing a PAM luminor with a suit? Just too casual? Why is a Speedy Pro viewed as being more fitting with a suit? Too me they both seem sport/tool watches at heart. But, this thread gives me more confidence on wearing a Speedy with a suit than a Pam.

I am on the verge of buying my first proper watch and, for the time being, need it to serve a broad range of settings. I will have a Pam and a Speedy at some point but need to choose the order. Thanks for any input.

I don't know your style, but just say you were like me and wore a suit once or twice a year and you really wanted the PAM....Just don't wear a watch that day. That's what I would do. 

 

It's the same reason I don't own a dress watch. My wardrobe does not support it. If you are casual 90% of the time then I would gear your watch towards that. Don't worry about the other 10%.

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Originally Posted by KevM View Post

I've been following this thread for years. I've learned a lot from it and thank you all for the discussion. I have always wanted to participate.

What is the TWATer's consensus on wearing a PAM luminor with a suit? Just too casual? Why is a Speedy Pro viewed as being more fitting with a suit? Too me they both seem sport/tool watches at heart. But, this thread gives me more confidence on wearing a Speedy with a suit than a Pam.

I am on the verge of buying my first proper watch and, for the time being, need it to serve a broad range of settings. I will have a Pam and a Speedy at some point but need to choose the order. Thanks for any input.

Most people would say neither makes sense, but one of the most basic ones is that most Luminors will be a lot bigger than a Speedy. Unless you're buying one of the sub 44mm Luminors, fitting one underneath a cuff is going to be difficult. And even though a Speedy pro is only 2mm smaller than a 44mm Luminor, the PAMs just look a lot bigger and therefore more casual.
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Most people would say neither makes sense

I bet that would be wrong.
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I don't know your style, but just say you were like me and wore a suit once or twice a year and you really wanted the PAM....Just don't wear a watch that day. That's what I would do. 

It's the same reason I don't own a dress watch. My wardrobe does not support it. If you are casual 90% of the time then I would gear your watch towards that. Don't worry about the other 10%.

Thanks for the input. My suit usage would be an important consideration. I wear a suit or sport coat and tie about 3 days a week.
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Most people would say neither makes sense, but one of the most basic ones is that most Luminors will be a lot bigger than a Speedy. Unless you're buying one of the sub 44mm Luminors, fitting one underneath a cuff is going to be difficult. And even though a Speedy pro is only 2mm smaller than a 44mm Luminor, the PAMs just look a lot bigger and therefore more casual.

I can fit either underneath my french cuff shirts. Some off the rack barrel cuffs won't be able to fit the PAM.
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Thanks for the input. My suit usage would be an important consideration. I wear a suit or sport coat and tie about 3 days a week.
I can fit either underneath my french cuff shirts. Some off the rack barrel cuffs won't be able to fit the PAM.

My opinion is that if you want that watch then get it. You won't be the first or last person to wear a PAM with a suit. No one will even notice or care.

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I bet that would be wrong.

I should clarify, most people who actually care about "proper" watch wearing would be against it.

Normal people won't even notice that you have a watch on, let alone one that might be considered too casual. Get something you like and you will enjoy wearing and don't worry about the 2% of people who might actually care.
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I should clarify, most people who actually care about "proper" watch wearing would be against it.

Normal people won't even notice that you have a watch on, let alone one that might be considered too casual. Get something you like and you will enjoy wearing and don't worry about the 2% of people who might actually care.

+1!

 

And those 2% are on here and not in real life. haha

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Most people would say neither makes sense, but one of the most basic ones is that most Luminors will be a lot bigger than a Speedy. Unless you're buying one of the sub 44mm Luminors, fitting one underneath a cuff is going to be difficult. And even though a Speedy pro is only 2mm smaller than a 44mm Luminor, the PAMs just look a lot bigger and therefore more casual.


I agree on this one. Having had a few pams and currently still having a pam, the fitting underneath a cuff will be difficult. Either way, I can only advise you to buy the one you love the most, the one you feel most attracted to.

 

If you feel the need to have a dress watch, Seiko, Victorinox, Hamilton, ... offer some options imo if your budget is tight.

 

I don't know if you tried them on already, I can only say that I feel that is a must.

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Partying hard with @DerekS.

Huevos Rancheros and cheddar, feta and avocado Panini on ciabatta, not shown.

APs, identical shoes and shirt, yes shown.


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Looking good, fellas! Damn that Derek dresses nice for a deviant.

 

Anyway.  This Swiss Franc thing is interesting: what one has to bear in mind is that Switzerland is so dependent on imports - food, raw materials, even labour (the writer from Moser & Cie mentioned that 20% of his staff are German, and I imagine they live in Germany and commute).  With that in mind, their situation is rather like any country's, even the US, in having to balance the inflationary and growth-inhibiting costs of imports, against the wish to promote exports and keep their own industries competitive.  In the case of watches, they hardly compete on price as it is, so I guess in political terms, keeping the price of bread and Audis reasonable wins out.

 

Also, the good news, I hope, is that this might limit the impact on watch prices: even if the CHF rises, some of the costs of watch manufacturers will reduce as a result.  Naturally, they source many things within the country and pay for them in CHF, but nevertheless, it might soften the blow a little and allow them to absorb some of the change,. For example, think how much cheaper IWC or Omega will be getting their Euro-denominated celebrity endorsement contracts. :)

 

(Perhaps this subject is one for @no frills ....cue the music: da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na...)

 

P.S. @KeithT the strap is from Panatime too.  I like it, nice solid bit of croc for good price, but it's too shiny.  Needs some work to tone it down a bit.  But it's un-tapered and robust, so suits the sportier look I think.  The Hadley Roma alligator on my Omega (bought at the same time from the same place), is way nicer for something a bit more dressy.

 

P.P.S. Rather paltry in comparison to the wonders above, but: *Small kop incoming*.  Somehow lost my mind and hit the pay button.

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Partying hard with @DerekS.

Huevos Rancheros and cheddar, feta and avocado Panini on ciabatta, not shown.

APs, identical shoes and shirt, yes shown.


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Looking great gents. Good to see some fellow AP watchnuts!

 

What are your thoughts on the new AP releases at SIHH? I'm not convinced yet. So far I've seen the white dialed SS diver, new concept and the two-tone 15400. I've seen nothing breathtaking so far... That Lange & Sohne Zeitwerk minute repeater though, mindblowing!

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Originally Posted by pmeis View Post

I should clarify, most people who actually care about "proper" watch wearing would be against it.

Normal people won't even notice that you have a watch on, let alone one that might be considered too casual. Get something you like and you will enjoy wearing and don't worry about the 2% of people who might actually care.

Thanks for the insight.
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