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Thanks everyone for your advice, much appreciated!
As for budget, I wouldn't move that far away from what a aqua terra costs -- consider my very first intention, as a naive watch outsider, was to reach for something nice enough in the 1k range (sinn for example), but reading these pages is, as someone correctly said, a first step to want more and more watches of different kinds.

The RO,however beautiful, still remains out of my league. I also think I'd need to learn something more about watches before being able to fully appreciate it beside its design.

The Explorer I might be a good alternative, especially if I can find a used one in good state (and this would be necessary, since they're out of production in favor of the II, if I'm not mistaken?), but I tend to appreciate number-less dials more. The datejust is more appealing in my eyes.

The IWC ingenieur seems too bulky for my wrist, but I might be wrong, since I never had the chance of seeing it in person. I like its plain, classic and clear dial though.

Lastly, I didn't know of the Cartier Roadster, which, after a quick glance, I like. However, I think its particular style and design might tire me after some time... It's a niche watch tough, and I'll certainly consider it when it will be time for my next purchase! Oh, no, wait...

Wore this today wootx



Got his and hers too, Duchess never takes hers off
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Everyone is different, but for me...the idea of choosing a Panerai because its recognizable watch, well that doesn't sound like a plus.  If as you mentioned you are concerned about Rolex being recognized at your "age and occupation this isn't the time" I don't see how a Panerai is a better choice.   Anyone who knows anything about watches, would know a Panerai, a Rolex, or an Omega. Those who don't know watches that well are still going to notice a giant tuna sized watch on your wrist (and they can easily google it).   An Omega or Rolex will easily fit under a dress shirt sleeve for when you need to be more discreet. 

 

I love the case shape of the Panerais, and their history, but I just don't love the less expensive models.  My biggest issue, and reason I'd rather have an Omega or a Rolex (both of which I think provide a lot more bang for the buck), are the movements.  At $5,000 you are probably getting a pre-owned Panerai with a Unitas movement.  Its a solid work horse and its fine, but commonly found in much cheaper watches.  To me that has the same appeal as buying a BMW, but getting one that has an engine from a Honda Civic.  The Civic engine is a good solid engine, but if I'm buying a BMW I would want a BMW engine (or maybe an Alpina engine if the engine has to be from an outside company).  So for that reason, the basic Panerais just always feel a bit like a fancy case hiding a lack of substance.

 

I would be fine with a Panerai that had either an in house movement or maybe one of their old chronographs that used the Zenith El Primero movement, but I think those aren't going to be with in the budget.  As always, if you love the Panerai go for it.  Wishing you luck with your search for your next watch. 

 

I want a Panerai because I love the look of the Luminor, first and foremost.  My point was that a Rolex might be more of a safe investment, but design-wise none of the models would currently be my first choice.  While a PAM might be more noticeable than other options, I would guess most that would see it wouldn't know or care to research the name.  I know that sounds strange (especially to those in this thread), but it's based off first hand accounts from people I've talked to about it.  I don't think my wife would even think much of a Panerai on my wrist, but if she saw a Rolex she would think I spent a fortune on it.  

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Wore this today wootx



Got his and hers too, Duchess never takes hers off

There's that beauty again inlove.gif

I'd get a Rolex over a PAM if I didn't want the watch to be recognised. I tend to prefer the visual aesthetic of most (but not all) Rolexes anyway, but that's just a personal thing.
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While I do agree that the AP RO does make for a good "The One Watch" - I find myself reaching for mine more often than anything else I have at the moment - it's quite a stretch for the budget to go from an Omega Aqua Terra to an AP RO , especially for a first watch. Though that being said if one is only ever only going to buy one watch, a case can be made for saving up for the RO..

Without going into AP territory, the Aqua Terra is a great choice, as are the smaller Rolexes mentined - Explorer / DJ etc. Just to throw out a few more for consideration - IWC Ingenier, Zenith Captain, Cartier Roadster.

I was tickled to see the Roadster mentioned here as an alternative!

Personally I've found it quite versatile, and IMHO it effectively straddles the dress / casual line with plenty of style to spare. (Mine's in stainless steel).

At the same time, it's true that the barrel-shape is quite different (or as I'd like to think, distinctive!) ... so maybe it's not the best choice as a "first" watch. But when worn in rotation with others, I have found that it more than holds its own, and really gets quite a lot of wrist time.

Also, as recently mentioned, in terms of readability with a silver dial-- the (first version) Roadster hands are blue, quite broad, and lumed up almost like a diver's watch-- so there's plenty of contrast, and it's easy to see in lower light situations as well.

The movement is nothing special of course, but with the Roman numerals, and oval / racetrack dial, the "headlight" cyclops and crown...if you "get" that whole Cartier aesthetic as applied to the automotive world, then you can see why I have found it so appealing.

Certainly it's not a watch for everybody, but I do think it's been underrated to a certain extent.

Here's an old pic:






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Newly serviced Seamaster Railmaster with a new brown leather strap. Omega did a great job fixing this thing up after a few years of nonuse.



Really liked the Railmaster from the time Omega revived it, and honestly thought it would have been more successful, or would have enjoyed a much longer production run. Yours looks great on that brown strap.

Congrats on getting it back on your wrist!

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Yeah, I love my Aquaracer and would prefer something other than a diver for my next purchase.  When I started my recent search I was looking for something like an Aqua Terra or Datejust before considering a Luminor.  Something about those seems less interesting now, though.  But I'm wondering if one of those might be a safer choice.  

The Luminor may not be the safest choice, but it sounds like what your heart really wants.

Yeah it's technically a diver, but not at all like an Aquaracer (or Sub, or whatever "typical" / rotating bezel style dive watch).

And If you've got the wrist to accommodate it, I think you'll really like owning a Panerai.

Just make to you also get several different straps to switch out, and I promise you will have hours and hours of fun. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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I want a Panerai because I love the look of the Luminor, first and foremost.  My point was that a Rolex might be more of a safe investment, but design-wise none of the models would currently be my first choice.  While a PAM might be more noticeable than other options, I would guess most that would see it wouldn't know or care to research the name.  I know that sounds strange (especially to those in this thread), but it's based off first hand accounts from people I've talked to about it.  I don't think my wife would even think much of a Panerai on my wrist, but if she saw a Rolex she would think I spent a fortune on it.  

 

If you are buying for looks and that is the watch that makes you smile  the most, then go for it.  If you don't like Rolex, then anything regarding them is irrelevant for your purposes.  No point in buying a design that isn't your first choice.  I might try to see what might be affordable that doesn't use a something like a basic Unitas or ETA/Valjoux movement, but that's just me.  Good luck!  :cheers:

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Wore this today wootx



Got his and hers too, Duchess never takes hers off


Love this watch mate

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Love this watch mate

Very kind of you Sunshine!

(always wanted to say that, (Morecambe and Wise reference))

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Back to Pam chat, consider a Radiomir, FCSake!
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Very kind of you Sunshine!

(always wanted to say that, (Morecambe and Wise reference))

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Back to Pam chat, consider a Radiomir, FCSake!


Haha you're welcome. 

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Per my previous post, any recommendations for reputable sources for a watch from 1965 (my birth year)? Thinking Rolex or Omega. Thanks!

Anyone? Bueller?

Budget up to $5K.
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You can always search in Watch Recon by date or set up an alert . For example I typed in 1965 and there were several hits. Here are a couple.

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6942596&rid=0#msg_6942596

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/sold-1965-omega-seamaster-all-original-34mm-automatic-cal-552-classic-vintage-reduced-%24500-1354625.html

I used to follow some vintage sites but haven't checked them in a long time.

Watchcat
Second time around
Finer Times
Cool Vintage watches
Art of Time
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Anyone? Bueller?
Budget up to $5K.

Finding a watch by year to commemorate something that happened that year, while not something that appeals to me, is not uncommon. The funny thing is, a 1965 whatever-watch-you-are-looking -for, will have two distinct prices, assuming its not some special collectors item like a red sub or something.

1. You happen to find the watch with the desired year on eBay or chrono24 or a forum classified... The price will be the same as it was an other year of that general ear because the seller is not expecting anything special due to the production year.

2. You put out word that you want a watch from said specific year an someone in the business finds you one. Bam instant price bump because they know they have you by the shnads. There because an instant value add because you want this specific year, which is not always going to be readily available, the same as if it was a year earlier or later, there is just no guarantee such a watch will be readily available, and as such, you pay a premium to the find. Essentially a finders fee on top of the watch price.

That being said, the best thing to do is scour the marketplace unto you find the one you are looking for.

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Well said, Dino. As much as I loved my PAM, I think that the rather average movement was what made it relatively easy to part with. It was an aesthetic accessory more than a luxury watch really. Selling the JLC, and the Rolex years earlier, were much harder decisions.
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Want.


Need!

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Just catching up after a long break:

1. Holy shyt Stitch, 15300 in the Hizzy!!!! Congrats on that. I hope you are enjoying the RO experience. smile.gif

2. Frilly, def feeling the solid YG sports rollies, but prefer the GMTs--check them out. I still may get one even tho I ended up deciding rose gold was what I needed most first.
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Finally received my Nomos today! Barely survived the journey over from Germany - when I received the box I thought for sure it had been destroyed but other than some wear and tear on the wooden Nomos box, everything seems okay.

Love the watch and expect it to receive most of my wrist time in the office.

Here's a family shot of my 2 new friends along with the first timepiece I ever owned (well, a copy of it anyway) which accompanies me to board meetings and generally receives mad respect.

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Edited by UnFacconable - 1/12/15 at 9:21pm
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