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post #39181 of 48312
Alright guys...I realize the answer to this is completely subjective but would like to hear anyways.

I own Rolex SubC LV (green) and a Stowa Antea on croc strap that I don't wear much. The problem in part is that the LV was a grail and I can't decide on what next.

I can get another watch now in the 4-5k range. But I can't seem to find anything in this range that sings to me although I am considering a Speedy Pro.

I'm not really looking to buy used bc I don't trust that a watch may have been polished or dropped etc.

I could also forgo the Speedy and continue to save for a while. Watches that I have my eye on are:
Explorer l (though recent price hikes make it less attractive)
GMT BLNR
JLC Reverso
Cartier Tank Solo

Is the Speedy a good compliment at this stage? Are there watches I may be overlooking in this range?

Thanks!
post #39182 of 48312

Have you tried any of those watches on?  I found the Speedy to sit weird once I put it on and it just fell flat.  I love my BLNR!  The Reverso and Tank Solo are different in terms of shape but also they offer different varieties in each watch.

 

I would try some watches on and see if they sing to you.  

post #39183 of 48312
Sounds like with the Speedy you are settling and don't think that is a good reason to even consider it if it doesn't sing to you.

I say save up and get what makes you happy, the Explorer I isn't that far off from the Speedy.
post #39184 of 48312
Without commenting specifically on any of the watches you mention, I will offer this small advice: if you don't WANT a certain watch, don't buy it. Trust me on this, you will not be satisfied and will either lose money selling trading the watch you got and didn't want , or it will sit there getting little wrist time and you will hate yourself.

It doesn't sound to me like you really want the speedmaster, so I wouldn't buy it.

As far as your collection goes, you basically have a sport/tool type watch and a dress(ish) watch. Lost of ways you can go. Just get what you like or wait until you can. If you aren't wearing the Stowa much, it might be something to sell or trade?

Re the BLNR, I think it is too similar to the sub if you wanted to vary things. On the other hand, i totally understand attraction to the BLNR. Looks great and you definitely wont be the first person to have multiple similar watches from a given brand.






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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Alright guys...I realize the answer to this is completely subjective but would like to hear anyways.

I own Rolex SubC LV (green) and a Stowa Antea on croc strap that I don't wear much. The problem in part is that the LV was a grail and I can't decide on what next.

I can get another watch now in the 4-5k range. But I can't seem to find anything in this range that sings to me although I am considering a Speedy Pro.

I'm not really looking to buy used bc I don't trust that a watch may have been polished or dropped etc.

I could also forgo the Speedy and continue to save for a while. Watches that I have my eye on are:
Explorer l (though recent price hikes make it less attractive)
GMT BLNR
JLC Reverso
Cartier Tank Solo

Is the Speedy a good compliment at this stage? Are there watches I may be overlooking in this range?

Thanks!
post #39185 of 48312
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Alright guys...I realize the answer to this is completely subjective but would like to hear anyways.

I own Rolex SubC LV (green) and a Stowa Antea on croc strap that I don't wear much. The problem in part is that the LV was a grail and I can't decide on what next.


Thanks!

Keep doing research and reconnaissance until you find something that really makes you smile.  Buying something just because you have $4-5K to spend right now could just result in you simply buying something that will end up in a drawer next to the Stowa as soon as the newness factor wears off.  

 

I would rather wait and save to have something I truly want, rather than spend whats in my pocket right now simply for the sake of making a purchase.  When you find your next "Must have" watch you will know it.  

 

Good luck and enjoy your research and recon...its part of the fun! 

post #39186 of 48312
Great advice guys...thanks. I knew the feedback would be solid here. Much appreciated.
post #39187 of 48312
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Alright guys...I realize the answer to this is completely subjective but would like to hear anyways.

I own Rolex SubC LV (green) and a Stowa Antea on croc strap that I don't wear much. The problem in part is that the LV was a grail and I can't decide on what next.

I can get another watch now in the 4-5k range. But I can't seem to find anything in this range that sings to me although I am considering a Speedy Pro.

I'm not really looking to buy used bc I don't trust that a watch may have been polished or dropped etc.

I could also forgo the Speedy and continue to save for a while. Watches that I have my eye on are:
Explorer l (though recent price hikes make it less attractive)
GMT BLNR
JLC Reverso
Cartier Tank Solo

Is the Speedy a good compliment at this stage? Are there watches I may be overlooking in this range?

Thanks!

Save and get BLNR!
post #39188 of 48312
I dunno. If I were in tricky's shoes I might consider a 16710, especially a Pepsi if I could get a good deal on it.
post #39189 of 48312
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I dunno. If I were in tricky's shoes I might consider a 16710, especially a Pepsi if I could get a good deal on it.

That's actually one I meant to include. But getting one in great condition and unpolished may not be so easy.
post #39190 of 48312
True, the really good ones seem to approach 7, at which point another month or quarter of scrimping will get you a BLNR.

Also, given the BLNR isn't often in stock at ADs it's practically a layaway item anyway. Pay the deposit, and save up in the meantime.

(Insert idle complaint about the blingy Daytona style bracelet here)
post #39191 of 48312
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Just curious: are you saying that the onus is put on the customer to be aware of a company's distribution agreement impositions and as such, an (unknowing) 'violation' thereof can mean that the customer has to pay the 'penalty' and hand over the goods?

No, what I am saying is that as owner of the Rolex trademark they get to set whether their goods can be imported into certain countries and under what circumstances. This has more to do with trademark law than with a distribution agreement (although I'm sure the distribution agreement says the same thing Customs wouldn't be enforcing this if there was no trademark on the product. U.S. Customs could care less what a third party distribution agreement says I would imagine). Basically it sounds like Rolex has told Customs that they do not want Rolexs being imported into the U.S (which they have the right to do as owner of the trademark) and Customs is enforcing that. From what I have read this seems to be more of a concern when somebody attempts to mail a Rolex into the U.S. as opposed to bringing one in while travelling.

As far as the penalty then yes that sounds like the consequence. Although as a consumer that is buying a fairly expensive item I would hope they would read the rules regarding importing an item before purchasing. It really takes less than a minute googling to figure out that it is not a great idea.

Also, I'm not a trademark lawyer and could be completely wrong on the above but that is what I came up with after doing a bit of research.

This sense of outrage over Rolex and US Customs seems to come up periodically on every watch forum I've ever frequented for as long as I can remember.

From http://www.crownandcaliber.com/watches/rolex/how-do-you-import-a-rolex-watch-into-the-united-states/
Why is Rolex allowed to place these restrictions? According to the US Customs regulation, restrictions on imported goods do not apply when: (1) Both the foreign and the U.S. trademark or trade name are owned by the same person or business entity; [or] (2) the foreign and domestic trademark or trade name owners are parent and subsidiary companies or are otherwise subject to common ownership or control.” Many assume that Rolex USA is under common ownership with Swiss Rolex in Geneva. However, the owner of Swiss Rolex, Manufacture des Montres Rolex S.A. Bienne, has granted Rolex USA with the U.S. Registration for the “Rolex” logo. Therefore, the trademark of the Swiss Rolex watches that are created in Geneva and sold in the United States are owned by Rolex USA, which means the foreign and U.S. trademark are owned by separate business entities. This is why the Rolex watches sold in the United States are applicable to the importation restrictions.
post #39192 of 48312
Haven't had any luck finding a Daytona in Spain but did find an AD with a BLNR and a good price. Wife is telling me not to settle for the BLNR and Daytona or bust. She also says to wait for the Nomos to arrive before deciding. We shall see.

The favorable exchange rate is probably the biggest factor behind this timing for me, maybe I should just buy some Euros and earmark them for watches.
post #39193 of 48312
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

I could also forgo the Speedy and continue to save for a while.Watches that I have my eye on are:
Explorer l (though recent price hikes make it less attractive)
GMT BLNR
JLC Reverso
Cartier Tank Solo
I don't know....
post #39194 of 48312
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

This sense of outrage over Rolex and US Customs seems to come up periodically on every watch forum I've ever frequented for as long as I can remember.

From http://www.crownandcaliber.com/watches/rolex/how-do-you-import-a-rolex-watch-into-the-united-states/
Why is Rolex allowed to place these restrictions? According to the US Customs regulation, restrictions on imported goods do not apply when: (1) Both the foreign and the U.S. trademark or trade name are owned by the same person or business entity; [or] (2) the foreign and domestic trademark or trade name owners are parent and subsidiary companies or are otherwise subject to common ownership or control.” Many assume that Rolex USA is under common ownership with Swiss Rolex in Geneva. However, the owner of Swiss Rolex, Manufacture des Montres Rolex S.A. Bienne, has granted Rolex USA with the U.S. Registration for the “Rolex” logo. Therefore, the trademark of the Swiss Rolex watches that are created in Geneva and sold in the United States are owned by Rolex USA, which means the foreign and U.S. trademark are owned by separate business entities. This is why the Rolex watches sold in the United States are applicable to the importation restrictions.

Just to be clear I wasn't outraged at all. At first it simply didn't make any sense to me as to why Customs would be confiscating Rolexs so I figured there had to be more to it. After researching a bit it at least made some sense.
post #39195 of 48312
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

Many assume that Rolex USA is under common ownership with Swiss Rolex in Geneva. However, the owner of Swiss Rolex, Manufacture des Montres Rolex S.A. Bienne, has granted Rolex USA with the U.S. Registration for the “Rolex” logo. Therefore, the trademark of the Swiss Rolex watches that are created in Geneva and sold in the United States are owned by Rolex USA, which means the foreign and U.S. trademark are owned by separate business entities. This is why the Rolex watches sold in the United States are applicable to the importation restrictions.
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